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: Blow out clips-again


Burntove
Jun 5th, 08, 05:54 PM
Just purchased the roof rail weathersrtip retainer track for my 69 coupe from Classic industries, and the blow out clips(my car did not come with them),so I did a search under "blow out clips" to find out where they go on the track. I found alot threads and info except where the larger clip goes, on the pillar end or back by the quarter window? The repo retainer came with a small clip installed near the quarter window, but it was all steel- no rubber coating, so i'm going to remove it and install one from the set I bought. Anybody know know which clip goes where?

JohnZ
Jun 5th, 08, 06:28 PM
There's only one blowout clip, in the front corner where the roof rail meets the top of the A-pillar, with a glass guide a few inches below it on the A-pillar. There's another glass guide on the roof rail about two inches forward of the top front corner of the quarter window - photos below of an untouched original. :thumbsup:

Gary L
Jun 5th, 08, 06:43 PM
John, what is that big goober in the front picture? Is that the factory sealer?

Burntove
Jun 6th, 08, 08:36 AM
Thanks John, the pictures help alot, it looks like the glass guides are what the repo places are calling blowout clips. When I got my "blowout clips" from classic industries there were four clips,two were larger,can you tell if there are two different sizes on your car,and if so which goes where?Also where would I be able to find the actual Blow out clip in the corner, I don't see them listed in any of the catalogs.
Thanks again for the help.

alanrw
Jun 6th, 08, 08:46 AM
One of mine just fell off a couple of weeks ago. How do those things attach? Do you have to remove the metal weatherstrip and screw it in from the backside?

alan

Burntove
Jun 6th, 08, 10:53 AM
I think I just figured it out, the blowout clip in the corner is what I received with the roof rail weather strip retainer set. There is a small piece of channel that is called a joint and it connects the pillar piece to the roof rail piece,the two pieces slide into it and it is slotted to bend in the middle. But it is not rubber coated like the original. I think I can dip it in tool handle coating and make it work. Does this sound right?

alanrw
Jun 6th, 08, 02:15 PM
Is there a part number for the blowout clips at Classic Industries? I looked in the catalog and couldn't find it. Or is it part of the entire window seal kit?

alan

Burntove
Jun 6th, 08, 02:29 PM
Allan the part # is ;KW 731 on page 386 in the 2008 catalog.The blowout clips/window guides are riveted in the channel.

alanrw
Jun 6th, 08, 02:37 PM
Thanks Ben. Is the angled piece that fits right up where the horizontal meets the A-pillar considered a blowout clip or is that another piece? It looks like a black squashed "V".

alan

Burntove
Jun 6th, 08, 02:57 PM
OK, I'm looking at the corner connector for the roof rail weatherstrip retainer that I got with the set and it looks different than John's picture of the blow out clip in the corner, so I don't know if dipping it in tool handle coating will work.:confused:

Burntove
Jun 6th, 08, 03:07 PM
The angle piece that fits up in the corner( what John is calling the blow out clip) might be another piece that fits over top of the connector piece. I can't find this piece listed in any of the repo suppliers catalogs.

Gary L
Jun 6th, 08, 10:26 PM
The angle piece that fits up in the corner( what John is calling the blow out clip) might be another piece that fits over top of the connector piece. I can't find this piece listed in any of the repo suppliers catalogs.

That is not the blowout clip. The part you are talking about just joins the roof and pillar sections. You have to buy the whole set to get that part. The blowout clips are spring clips covered part way with black plastic. The glass rests against them when rolled up. The blowout clip shows as a black part sticking out from behind the weather strip, just under the part you are talking about.

alanrw
Jun 6th, 08, 10:36 PM
Ok, I guess it is what it is. I will have to buy the whole deal. Do those screw into the body or does it rely on clips?

thanks
alan

Burntove
Jun 7th, 08, 07:22 AM
Gary, is the piece that joins the pillar and roof sections rubber coated?
It looks like it is in John's picture, I bought the set from Classic industries and the piece that joins the two together does not look the same as John's untouched original.My wife went out of town and took my camera with her,she won't be back untill next week. I will try to get a friend to take a picture of the connector piece I got with the set so you and Alan can see the differance.
Alan; the roof rail weather strip retainer channel is screwed in to the body,the blowout clips/window guides are riveted in to the channel, and the weather strip pushes up into the channel. Some people say you don't have to glue the weatherstip,but I believe it was glued at the assembly plant. The corner piece that looks a squashed "v" is the part that John is calling a "blow out clip" and Gary said it is the piece that it connects the roof and pillar channels together,is what I am confused about.:confused:

Gary L
Jun 7th, 08, 07:41 AM
Gary, is the piece that joins the pillar and roof sections rubber coated?
It looks like it is in John's picture, I bought the set from Classic industries and the piece that joins the two together does not look the same as John's untouched original.My wife went out of town and took my camera with her,she won't be back untill next week. I will try to get a friend to take a picture of the connector piece I got with the set so you and Alan can see the differance.
Alan; the roof rail weather strip retainer channel is screwed in to the body,the blowout clips/window guides are riveted in to the channel, and the weather strip pushes up into the channel. Some people say you don't have to glue the weatherstip,but I believe it was glued at the assembly plant. The corner piece that looks a squashed "v" is the part that John is calling a "blow out clip" and Gary said it is the piece that it connects the roof and pillar channels together,is what I am confused about.:confused:


The weatherstrip channel is sealed with 3M strip caulk (what the factory used I am not sure) and the screws to the body. The channel is not rubber coated. The blowout clips are. It is possible the repro channel has a different connector. I had to buy a used set to get that connector piece. Mine was missing the black plastic trim on the connector.

alanrw
Jun 7th, 08, 08:10 AM
Ben, I think we are talking about the same piece. I think John calls it a blowout dip as it braces the window when the window is completely in the up position from lateral forces (wind, etc) to the outboard side of the car. It probably also functions as a connector piece in between the roof rail and A-pillar portions of the weatherstrip.

alan

Burntove
Jun 7th, 08, 08:47 AM
Alan, I think your right ,the corner/connector piece like Gary said might be different on the repo channel, I guess I'll have to look for a used set.

Burntove
Jun 7th, 08, 09:21 AM
Gary,thank you so much for clearing this up for me :beers:.
Still don't know where the longer blow out clip goes-on the pillar part, or on the roof part?

Gary L
Jun 11th, 08, 06:49 PM
Gary,thank you so much for clearing this up for me :beers:.
Still don't know where the longer blow out clip goes-on the pillar part, or on the roof part?
The longer one goes I think on the pillar post. They kind of go where they fit. They will only work one way.