I Bought This Car A Week Ago. Luckly That The Selller Knew That It Was A Rare Find But He Didn't Know How Rare.

1969 Camaro Z11 Pace Car. I Give The Car A 7.5 To 8 On A 1-10.

Every Thing Is Origanal. Top Very Good Shape With Small Cracks In The Edge Where The Tight Folds Are. Interior Seats Look Perfect Dash No Cracks, Trim Some Fading But Not Bad, Side Panels Bright But With Small Cracks But Not Noticable A 3-5 Foot.

Vin. 124679n621235

Coul Tag

St69 12467 Nor288130bdy
Tr 720 50 Apnt
03d Z11

Options.

Rs/ss
Convertable Power Top
Air Conditioning
Power Disc Brakes
Power Steering
Sport Mirrors With Remote L Side
Hounds Toothinterior
Rose Wood Dash
350 Engine W/ Automatic Trans
Center Consol With No Gadges
Leather Rapped Wheel
Tilt Wheel
Deluxe Seat Belts
Rear Seat Shoulder Belts
12 Bolt Rear With Muti Leaf
Mini Spare
Rear Quarter Mout Antenia
Stripe Over Wheel Well
CONVERABLE TOP BOOT COVER
54000 Mile This Apears To Be Documented?

Ok What Is That Worth.
I Can Load Picture But Will Be Monday.

Paint Is Fades With Some Peeling And Very Small Amounts Of Rust Bubbles. Car Looks Like Has Had A Set Of Gm Fender Installed At One Time. Looking Under The Hood At Inside The Fender Found A Gm Sticker Pealing Up.

Ok What Is This Worth.....

This Car Is Not For Sale....

And How Rare Is This Car One Web Sight I Read 3675 Pace Cars But If You Want Rare You Need To Look For Odd Options Like A/c Power Top, Rear Mount Antenia, Or The Rear Seat Shoulder Belts.

That Sight Claimed That The Rear Sear Should Belts Were Only Installed In 42 Cars In 1969.

So What Is This Worth...

Sorry Z11 Not X11 i Bought This Car A Week Ago. Luckly That The Selller Knew That It Was A Rare Find But He Didn't Know How Rare.

1969 Camaro Z11 Pace Car. I Give The Car A 7.5 To 8 On A 1-10.

Every Thing Is Origanal. Top Very Good Shape With Small Cracks In The Edge Where The Tight Folds Are. Interior Seats Look Perfect Dash No Cracks, Trim Some Fading But Not Bad, Side Panels Bright But With Small Cracks But Not Noticable A 3-5 Foot.

Vin. 124679n621235

Coul Tag

St69 12467 Nor288130bdy
Tr 720 50 Apnt
03d Z11

Options.

Rs/ss
Convertable Power Top
Air Conditioning
Power Disc Brakes
Power Steering
Sport Mirrors With Remote L Side
Hounds Toothinterior
Rose Wood Dash
350 Engine W/ Automatic Trans
Center Consol With No Gadges
Leather Rapped Wheel
Tilt Wheel
Deluxe Seat Belts
Rear Seat Shoulder Belts
12 Bolt Rear With Muti Leaf
Mini Spare
Rear Quarter Mout Antenia
Stripe Over Wheel Well
Converable Top Boot Cover
54000 Mile This Apears To Be Documented?

Ok What Is That Worth.
I Can Load Picture But Will Be Monday.

Paint Is Fades With Some Peeling And Very Small Amounts Of Rust Bubbles. Car Looks Like Has Had A Set Of Gm Fender Installed At One Time. Looking Under The Hood At Inside The Fender Found A Gm Sticker Pealing Up.

Ok What Is This Worth.....

This Car Is Not For Sale....

And How Rare Is This Car One Web Sight I Read 3675 Pace Cars But If You Want Rare You Need To Look For Odd Options Like A/c Power Top, Rear Mount Antenia, Or The Rear Seat Shoulder Belts.

That Sight Claimed That The Rear Sear Should Belts Were Only Installed In 42 Cars In 1969.

So What Is This Worth...

Jeff, A Z11 with A/C makes it rare indeed. Can you provide the label numbers from the seatbelts, please? That will verify them.

The leather wrapped steering wheel and rear mount antenna, were likely added.

We are going to want pictures here :D

Hi, I would say about 45-50K... The better the condition then obviously a bit more.

Rare? If it was a 396, 4-speed, then a bit more rare... 67 Z/28 are Rare.


45-50K at the most... need to see pics....

Oh by the way, nice find....

Jeff G.

Sport Mirrors? I don't think 1st gens had em if they're what I think.

Jeff

Hi, I would say about 45-50K... The better the condition then obviously a bit more.

Rare? If it was a 396, 4-speed, then a bit more rare... 67 Z/28 are Rare.


45-50K at the most... need to see pics....

Oh by the way, nice find....

Jeff G.

Even though Z11s are very desirable and valueable I don't consider them rare. Actually they are the most common 69 vert out there. If you lined up every 69 vert made every 4th or 5th car would be one. If you want one there are always some to pick from. And before I get blasted I did say they are desireable and valuable.

I Bought This Car A Week Ago. Luckly That The Selller Knew That It Was A Rare Find But He Didn't Know How Rare.

1969 Camaro Z11 Pace Car. I Give The Car A 7.5 To 8 On A 1-10.

Every Thing Is Origanal. Top Very Good Shape With Small Cracks In The Edge Where The Tight Folds Are. Interior Seats Look Perfect Dash No Cracks, Trim Some Fading But Not Bad, Side Panels Bright But With Small Cracks But Not Noticable A 3-5 Foot.

Vin. 124679n621235

Coul Tag

St69 12467 Nor288130bdy
Tr 720 50 Apnt
03d Z11

Options.

Rs/ss
Convertable Power Top
Air Conditioning
Power Disc Brakes
Power Steering
Sport Mirrors With Remote L Side
Hounds Toothinterior
Rose Wood Dash
350 Engine W/ Automatic Trans
Center Consol With No Gadges
Leather Rapped Wheel (50 cent or someone else? :) )
Tilt Wheel
Deluxe Seat Belts
Rear Seat Shoulder Belts
12 Bolt Rear With Muti Leaf
Mini Spare
Rear Quarter Mout Antenia
Stripe Over Wheel Well
CONVERABLE TOP BOOT COVER
54000 Mile This Apears To Be Documented?

Ok What Is That Worth.
I Can Load Picture But Will Be Monday.

Paint Is Fades With Some Peeling And Very Small Amounts Of Rust Bubbles. Car Looks Like Has Had A Set Of Gm Fender Installed At One Time. Looking Under The Hood At Inside The Fender Found A Gm Sticker Pealing Up.

Ok What Is This Worth.....

This Car Is Not For Sale....

And How Rare Is This Car One Web Sight I Read 3675 Pace Cars But If You Want Rare You Need To Look For Odd Options Like A/c Power Top, Rear Mount Antenia, Or The Rear Seat Shoulder Belts.

That Sight Claimed That The Rear Sear Should Belts Were Only Installed In 42 Cars In 1969.

So What Is This Worth...

1st of all, nice find, assuming you "stole" it as you seem pretty happy with your purchase.

A nice car for sure if it has not been touched over the years, but as pointed out above already, the 3,675 made make the Z11 Indy Pace Car replica one of the more popular (even though they couldn't give them away when they were new) versions, as stated nearly one in 5 were one.

Typing With Every Word Capped, Makes It Very Hard to Read, You Might Want To "Fix" That

Here is an online value guide:

http://www.manheimgold.com/car_lo.html

plugging all the info in gives this result:

1969 CHEVY/CAMARO INDY PACE CAR Z-11 Dsp/HP Eng Fair Good Exc Show Loan
2D CONVERTIBLE (3,675 mfd) 350/295 V8 16,000 26,000 46,000 70,200 H 23,500

enjoy the car and the hobby, it surely helps some of us cope with all the BS that goes on in life that we can't change (high gas prices, stupid politicians, etc)

(oh, one other small thing, the spell checker is your friend, use it as often as you can :) )

http://www.manheimgold.com/car_lo.html Those prices are a joke. Also, some of their production numbers are incorrect. They state that there were 26,000+ 68 Z's produced, when in fact, there were only 7,199 produced. I realize NADA prices are too high, but in my opinion, Manheim prices are too low. JMO. Mike. :beers::beers:

1st of all, nice find, assuming you "stole" it as you seem pretty happy with your purchase.

A nice car for sure if it has not been touched over the years, but as pointed out above already, the 3,675 made make the Z11 Indy Pace Car replica one of the more popular (even though they couldn't give them away when they were new) versions, as stated nearly one in 5 were one.

Typing With Every Word Capped, Makes It Very Hard to Read, You Might Want To "Fix" That

Here is an online value guide:

http://www.manheimgold.com/car_lo.html

plugging all the info in gives this result:

1969 CHEVY/CAMARO INDY PACE CAR Z-11 Dsp/HP Eng Fair Good Exc Show Loan
2D CONVERTIBLE (3,675 mfd) 350/295 V8 16,000 26,000 46,000 70,200 H 23,500

enjoy the car and the hobby, it surely helps some of us cope with all the BS that goes on in life that we can't change (high gas prices, stupid politicians, etc)

(oh, one other small thing, the spell checker is your friend, use it as often as you can :) )
Jim, you're not a politician are you?;)

Jeff,
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but everything you wrote does not mean anything since you did not say what you paid for it. I am not sure why you wrote all that without saying what you paid??
Keith is right, the 69 Z's are not that rare.

But, what counts is if you are happy with it. Is it what you want. And obviously since you spent money on it, you felt it was worth it. I don't see to many people get a "RARE" car today at a steal. Have fun restoring it. Enjoy it!!!! Let us know when you get it done?? This is a great hobby, isn't it?

June 15th, 2008. Happy Fathers Day!!!

Can any of you Pacer experts chime in here? Have you ever seen a Pacer with a rear mount antenna? If this was an available option on a Pacer, it would not get the rear spoiler. I have never seen a Z11 with no rear spoiler. Anyone know of another with rear mount antenna?

Hylton, I've never seen a rear antenna Z11 either? It's not uncommon to find SB Z11's in driver condition needing TLC for 20-25K IMO. I agree the Z11 is a fairly common 69 convertible RPO. Whats rare is what is contained in RPO Z11 i.e. factory cowl hood and deluxe houndstooth iterior for example. It was a bang for the buck where dealers were concerned although the colors were a bit bold for daily driver use of the day. Also keep in mind that only 13,000 or so big blocks were produced for Camaro in 1969 and some indications point to some 500 to 750 of the 3675 RPO Z11's carried them. Thats a significant percentage when factoring the remaining convertible and coupe production.

I just want to know what it is worth. I paid over 30K


Jeff,
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but everything you wrote does not mean anything since you did not say what you paid for it. I am not sure why you wrote all that without saying what you paid??
Keith is right, the 69 Z's are not that rare.

But, what counts is if you are happy with it. Is it what you want. And obviously since you spent money on it, you felt it was worth it. I don't see to many people get a "RARE" car today at a steal. Have fun restoring it. Enjoy it!!!! Let us know when you get it done?? This is a great hobby, isn't it?

June 15th, 2008. Happy Fathers Day!!!

35K.

I'm not an expert, but I've seen a LOT of the available Z11s recently.

pace cars will always be special and very desirable, i think you did very well. my buddy's dad sold his indy pace car vert for $6500 15 years ago.:eek:

R SIDE 34 g 68

L SIDE 34 c 68

ALSO HAS THE SHOULDER BELT HOLDERS MOUNTED IN THE SIDE TRIM PANEL. PLASTIC MOLDED ORANGE COLOR KEYED INJECTED.

Jeff, A Z11 with A/C makes it rare indeed. Can you provide the label numbers from the seatbelts, please? That will verify them.

The leather wrapped steering wheel and rear mount antenna, were likely added.

We are going to want pictures here :D

I Now Have 2 Vert 69's 1 Z11 And A X11 Rs 350 That I Am Pro Touring. It Was Kind Of A Rust Bucket But Also Rare. It Has A/c Also And Power Top. Disk Brakes, Power Steering, Datona Yellow With White Interior.bucket No Console With Colum Shift. So I Guess I Have The Best Of Both World 1 Origanal 1 Being Pro Toured. Pic Of That Vert. On Pro-touring.com Grarge Csi:quincy




jeff,
I'm Not Trying To Be A Jerk, But Everything You Wrote Does Not Mean Anything Since You Did Not Say What You Paid For It. I Am Not Sure Why You Wrote All That Without Saying What You Paid??
Keith Is Right, The 69 Z's Are Not That Rare.

But, What Counts Is If You Are Happy With It. Is It What You Want. And Obviously Since You Spent Money On It, You Felt It Was Worth It. I Don't See To Many People Get A "rare" Car Today At A Steal. Have Fun Restoring It. Enjoy It!!!! Let Us Know When You Get It Done?? This Is A Great Hobby, Isn't It?

June 15th, 2008. Happy Fathers Day!!!

R SIDE 34 g 68

L SIDE 34 c 68

ALSO HAS THE SHOULDER BELT HOLDERS MOUNTED IN THE SIDE TRIM PANEL. PLASTIC MOLDED ORANGE COLOR KEYED INJECTED.

Jeff, thanks. there should be a model number the label too. can you get that? I see you have deluxe belts from the date code. If the belts are located under the side panels, then they are front shoulder belts. Pics here http://www.camaros.org/seatbelt.shtml

they mount high and run over the top of the rear side panel. they bolt in the top mec. area. there is no place to lach for them to be front belts.

jeff


Jeff, thanks. there should be a model number the label too. can you get that? I see you have deluxe belts from the date code. If the belts are located under the side panels, then they are front shoulder belts. Pics here http://www.camaros.org/seatbelt.shtml

going to your web page it looks like they are the front seat shoulder belt but i do not see a place to buckel belt.

jeff



Jeff, thanks. there should be a model number the label too. can you get that? I see you have deluxe belts from the date code. If the belts are located under the side panels, then they are front shoulder belts. Pics here http://www.camaros.org/seatbelt.shtml

going to your web page it looks like they are the front seat shoulder belt but i do not see a place to buckel belt.

jeff

Jeff, on converts, the front sholder buckle side is attached to one of the bolts holding the top mech, the tongue side of the pair is bolted to the trans tunnel along with the buckle side of the lap belts. Hope this helps!

every thing is there for the rear section of labp belt but the front the touge side is missing any one know where to find such a belt???



Jeff, on converts, the front sholder buckle side is attached to one of the bolts holding the top mech, the tongue side of the pair is bolted to the trans tunnel along with the buckle side of the lap belts. Hope this helps!