Well the iron was ~2 weeks behind schedule, but the framing started going up today :hurray:


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Other pics Here (http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc112/TheMuscleCarGuys/New%20Facility/)

Dave, its too small already :D nice start.

Nice Dave, very nice! I have to ask though, was all that heavy equipment shown in the 2nd pic really necessary? I think your contractor may be over charging you... ;)

Dave, its too small already :D nice start.

Exactly what I was thinking........ no room for my car !

Congrats Dave .

Hey Dave looks good. I am already thinking about the new shop warming party (You supply the refreshments of course...LOL)

Looks like nice country around there. We are not seeing much of that nice blue sky around here lately. Maybe when it is done shoot a picture with the proprietors in front standing under the sign.

Am I missing something? Where's my room?

Am I missing something? Where's my room?

You can sleep in a car

My 67 will be showing up there sometime soon. Talked to Chris but I have not yet had time to get things together for it to be picked up. You might get the new place up before I get a chance or it just might go to the old place?

Joe

Exactly what I was thinking........ no room for my car !

Uh-huh :rolleyes: Send that LMB RS Z you just bought. Chances are I'd put a 729 in it, an endura on it, and not give it back to ya :D

I am already thinking about the new shop warming party (You supply the refreshments of course...LOL)

10-4, Jay :thumbsup:

Am I missing something? Where's my room?

Patience, Dub.... We have a 71 Suburban that we can put in the yard that you can live in. It has velour captain's chairs and everything :p

I Want That 71 Suburban!! No Joke!!!

Uh-huh :rolleyes: Send that LMB RS Z you just bought. Chances are I'd put a 729 in it, an endura on it, and not give it back to ya :D


Patience, Dub.... We have a 71 Suburban that we can put in the yard that you can live in. It has velour captain's chairs and everything :p


Hey ! I don't want Dub spoiled !

I wish it was 729/LMB ! As usual I will just have to suffer ......

Patience, Dub.... We have a 71 Suburban that we can put in the yard that you can live in. It has velour captain's chairs and everything :p

As long as you got some running water and something a couple of rungs above an outhouse, I should be good to go. What color velour? Do I bring my own fuzzy dice, or is that included in the rent. I need to get all these questions sorted out before I make my final decision.

Jeez Dave, if the garage is that big, how big will the house be? Where will the gift shop be?

:)

alan

Very nice Dave! :thumbsup: What are the vitals? Sq ft, heating? cooling? lighting? power? pneumatics? just curious?

What are the vitals? Sq ft, heating? cooling? lighting? power? pneumatics? just curious?

Chris is probably better on the specifics. It's 6000' (60x100). Front strip will be offices, break room, bathrooms, etc. Back half will be P/B area.

We'll have drop-downs throughout for the compressed air, and the booth and blow heaters are gonna burn a lot of natural gas :eek:

Very Very nice. 6000 sq ft is all?? :D

You need a door big enuff to get my 69 Pete in ther to paint it Canary Yellow. Its got a walk in sleeper. Oh, it also has 12ft stacks....

You need a door big enuff to get my 69 Pete in ther to paint it Canary Yellow. Its got a walk in sleeper. Oh, it also has 12ft stacks....

It'll fit in the shop, but not in the paint booth. :noway:

So Dave now that the new TC community garage and lodging center is underway when do we start signing up for the time-shares;), and can I reserve some time over the winter when it's cold and crappy here. Say mid February?:DLooking good keep us posted.:beers:

I thnk I'll time-share the Suburban. Who wants the passenger seat for a week in November?

I thnk I'll time-share the Suburban. Who wants the passenger seat for a week in November?


That thing got a trailer hitch??? (Ill bring the figs :D )


Love the shop!!!! (Jealous as heck but love the shop)


Chris:cool:

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pffft.

I hope you locked those doors and closed the windows so no one can break in

I hope work is getting done with all the time you are spending watching that building.:)

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Whatever...the storage shed for my lawnmower is bigger than that!!

Whatever...the storage shed for my lawnmower is bigger than that!!

In this instance it is not the size that counts, but the quality that comes out.;)

that thing is kinda small...what is it the new paint booth for the go-karts?

I hope work is getting done with all the time you are spending watching that building.:)

Don't worry, G. It's only a 1/2 mile from the current shop so it doesnt take but a few minutes in the afternoon to run over there and snap a few pics :thumbsup:

Whatever...the storage shed for my lawnmower is bigger than that!!

that thing is kinda small...what is it the new paint booth for the go-karts?

Haha... Chris is already sayin' it's too small. BTW, I wanna see that lawnmower and those go-karts :D

It fits like a glove ;)

http://www.carsbyjim.com/storage/MiscStuff/69RSinShop.jpg

Well, that qualifies as the first Camaro in the shop. Dave, what do we have for our winner?

alan

Well, that qualifies as the first Camaro in the shop. Dave, what do we have for our winner?

Wasn't aware there was a contest :confused: His prize will be mailed on the 5th Monday of next month :thumbsup:

Wasn't aware there was a contest :confused: His prize will be mailed on the 5th Monday of next month :thumbsup:
Hear that Jim you get a prize mailed to you on Aug. 31.:hurray:

Thats what you get for tryin to play that off RAD...

When is supposed to up and running Dave?

Hear that Jim you get a prize mailed to you on Aug. 31.:hurray:

Aug. 31 is a Sunday :D Too bad he didn't say Sept....there are 5 Mondays that month.

Aug. 31 is a Sunday :D Too bad he didn't say Sept....there are 5 Mondays that month.
Yea I read the calendar on my cell phone wrong.:clonk:

I don't see any chalk marks on that iron.... must be a bunch of repops from Taiwan!

I don't see any chalk marks on that iron....

In due time, Van :p

This is one of the preliminary drafts of the fp, final not drastically different:


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Looks like too many offices and too big of a break room. ....Now get back to work.

:D charlie you are a card :beers:

Jim it appears your Camaro is exiting the toilet and coming back to the office?

Looks like too many offices and too big of a break room. ....Now get back to work.

Chuck's a funny guy :D

Have some walls up:

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That sheet goes up pretty fast, eh?

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That sheet goes up pretty fast, eh?

Outside, yes. But only a month later have they finished up the inside :rolleyes:


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Lookin' good. I was wondering how far along it was, just the other day.

Looks good Dave. You will be in it before too much longer. Hope all is well and I will catch you later.

You will be in it before too much longer.

Well, hopefully....

We're still early enough in the build to hear some thoughts/suggestions about what you guys have done that has worked well. There's always something that other brains can conjure up.

So if you have 'em, let's hear 'em :thumbsup:

What are you using for heat? Central heating system?

What are you using for heat? Central heating system?

Initially we were going to go with radiant heat, but have heard negative feedback from those that use it. Leaning towards NG blow heaters.

What's your cost per therm for NG out there?

Don't know for sure without checking the bill. Remember it being just over $1/CCF combined in the spring, but fluctuates of course. With just a small radiant heater in Chris' hole in the current shop, it neared $200/month during the winter :eek:

The "new" bake booth is run on NG, so the use of gas can't be avoided completely as far as I know.

A couple of these miht be a good investment...
http://www.enviro.com/images/manuals-brochures/brochures/Maxx%20brochure%20June%202008%20low%20res.pdf

Ive had radiant Wirsbo slab heat in my 3 car garage and full basement and its fantastic. Its held 25psi for 11 years now, no leaks, heats perfectly and evenly. Im putting it in my farm house when we move in the basement addition and new attached garage again too. I know many folks with it around here and its cold in winter but they all swear by it. Huge architect/engineering company used Wirsbo in their new building, they love it. No cold spots anywhere. Not sure if proper installation was a problem for those who didnt like it that you spoke too but Id do it in a snap :)

Click is right. In-slab radiant heat is nice. Probably too late since your slab is in. But, what are you doing for cooling? Is evap cooling used much in your area? Looks like @ 90 deg/50% RH you could blow 77 deg air in your shop. You would need a lot of air. You are probably using a thru the wall air conditioner for the offices or a roof top unit to get a little relief from the shop.

cnbc just had a piece on geothermal green heating. looked interesting.

angel is right, geo thermal heating makes so much sense. either with tubes buried in the yard or drilled wells to capture heat from below frost levels, or air to air exchanging heat pumps, its all free heat in a way. If 50% of homes in cold climates went to geothermal, that would cut gas and oil and elec. use tremendously, leaving those energy sources for others, to increase their supply, reducing the price, in normal logic.
Hope more folks look into it.

it was interesting. the guy says a few feet under ground is 55 degrees all the time. so when its cold, it raises your temp to 55 and you can use alternate heat source to raise it higher. when its hot, the geothermal lowers the temp to 55.

Our ground source heat pump takes our 50 degree well water and bumps it up to 110 degrees with a compressor, that then blows thru the furnace fan into the home and thru the floor tubes in Wirsbo. In summer, the 50 degrees is used for a/c and it cools the house FAST. :thumbsup:

The radiant heat we were/are considering isn't slab heat, but the overhead units.

Don't know much about geothermal, pretty sure it isn't common around here at least, but might look into it and see if it is viable financially.

Geothermal is expensive due to the wells that have to be drilled. You are talking about quartz or gas radiant heaters I think.

This is kind of fun trying to help you spend your $$.

This is kind of fun trying to help you spend your $$.

Funny guy, G :D

We definitely don't have bottom-less pockets, we're working on a limited budget here.

We're looking at floor coatings. Our initial finds say that Hard Deck takes 28 days for cure, but I think some info got mixed up there. That won't work, but still looking into more info on it.

You dont have to have drilled wells for geothermal either. They also use long trenches you backhoe in the yard or under driveway or parking area. Dug down 6', you spread out pex hose that arrive in coils of 100', then you spread them them out like a slinky being stretched sideways. You might need 3 or 4 trenches of them, an energy audit will tell you. Then the green antifreeze is put thru the Pex hoses and recycled back and forth from the heat pump out thru the coils, picking up that 55 degree temp from the ground, then cycled back to the heat pump again.
If you have a Florida Heat Pump dealer around, talk to them. Stay away from Econ Aire and any outfit that with odd brand names, less than 3 years old, they might not be up to date. :)

Funny guy, G :D

We definitely don't have bottom-less pockets, we're working on a limited budget here.

bottomless... :D

bottomless... :D

Hey DUB, quit picking on him. He does pert near good for a young'in.

I-think-hyphens-albeit-some-times-un-necessary-look-cool :yes:

i-think-hyphens-albeit-some-times-un-necessary-look-cool :yes:

Rotflmao.

The radiant heat we were/are considering isn't slab heat, but the overhead units.

I'm not heating anywhere near what you are, but I have the overhead in my shop. 16ft ceiling with 12" insulation, 1113 sq ft. I KNOW it gets a lot colder here too and my heat bill hasn't gone over $45/month yet.

Update with pictures

Welcome to the new Tools and Shops forum.

Well... Murphy's Law has worked us over pretty well the last few months :mad: . If it wasn't one delay after another, it was needing an inspection from the city everytime we turned around. Still not finished, but we finally began the move-in today. :hurray:

A bunch of pics here of the progress (http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc112/TheMuscleCarGuys/New%20Facility/)

The first lineup:

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whose ugly *** firebird is that... oh , is that a Camaro ?

Looks good Dave!

whose ugly *** firebird is that... oh , is that a Camaro ?

At least it's not some German race car with paint colors picked by Barney the dinosaur........:rolleyes: :D :D :D

YouTube - Barney - I Love You

Gotta admit, Joe.. your firebird does look pretty sweet without wings :D

At least it's not some German race car with paint colors picked by Barney the dinosaur........:rolleyes: :D :D :D

YouTube - Barney - I Love You (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsKO_r76kfQ)

Joe ... I had no idea that was your car !! Jee I am sorry , it didn't look like a Camaro in that picture... But I would rather have cool barney the beloved dinosour pick my colors than the Barney that picked yours :)

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Or maybe it was the teletubbies

YouTube - teletubbies doin the groove

Nice looking shop Dave. What'd you end up putting on the floor?

What'd you end up putting on the floor?

We went with a product from Anchor that we have used twice before with good results.

Epoxy Light Gray, Hi-Solid (www.anchorpaint.com/proddetail.asp?w=i&id=81)

Got most of it moved "over" (obviously not situated yet) over the last 2 1/2 days, including 9 vehicles (3 being non-running parts cars). A bunch of sheetmetal parts, compressor, and tool boxes are about all that's left...

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That parts pile looks like my garage.

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... But I would rather have cool barney the beloved dinosour pick my colors than the Barney that picked yours :)

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Yeah........this Barney is cool.While ^^^^^this Barney is :noway:http://www.bbc.co.uk/cumbria/content/images/2007/08/13/1barney_353x470.jpg

David F.

Outside concrete is done and cured (has been for a week or so, but never got around to getting a pic of it), but the dirt work still needs to be finished out. Everything is finally moved over, waited for the last (4th) day to move the heavy stuff which is Chris' giant S-O toolbox and the 80gal compressor. Big fun :clonk:

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Nice!

Looks great Dave, looks like you got a lot of cars already to work on, get busy!!

Everything is finally moved over, waited for the last (4th) day to move the heavy stuff which is Chris' giant S-O toolbox and the 80gal compressor. Big fun :clonk:

Yea, but GOOD FUN :yes: Congrats....NICE SHOP!! :thumbsup:....Jb

Upstairs storage, will also include a shelf over the HVAC ductwork.

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Ill be there on the 5th of next wednesday to get my grey 2nd gen...

Ill be there on the 5th of next wednesday to get my grey 2nd gen...

Not sure when "the 5th of next wednesday" is, but he'll prolly sell it if ya want it ;)

Dave - shop looks great -- keep us posted as things continue to take shape

You could start your own car show on Spike or Speed TV

Very nice.

Got the big pile cleared out and that corner fairly settled in to get ready for the tear down in the next week. P/B room is still a mess, will tackle that next.

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Not sure when "the 5th of next wednesday" is, but he'll prolly sell it if ya want it ;)


I assumed it was yours and was only making a joke thinking you wouldnt want to sell, BUT, what kinda cash are we talkin?

BTW That is one Kick A$$ Shop!

I assumed it was yours and was only making a joke thinking you wouldnt want to sell, BUT, what kinda cash are we talkin?

Naahh... mines hugger/white, kinda looks like a circus tent :D

Who knows, maybe a package deal w/ the Burban can be worked out. :p

Lemme check my funds over the next few days. been offered another job.

Looking very very nice! Me likes :thumbsup:

Added some lighting, as well as the setting up the stereo. Then I killd the radio star today... dammit..

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The last major project begins. Really looking forward to it :rolleyes:

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Ahhh the paint booth, things are looking up here if you know what I mean Dave!!

Ahhh the paint booth, things are looking up here if you know what I mean Dave!!

Good to hear, Joe :thumbsup:

Think we have about 1/2 of the booth up (counted 22 panels or so), but that doesn't include all the heat/air ductwork :o

Hey Dave that is one of the nicest shops I have seen. Congradulations. Wish I was so lucky. Looks like you guys do good work. Got any traction bars kicking around in that shop of yours? lol

Hey Dave that is one of the nicest shops I have seen. Congradulations. Wish I was so lucky. Looks like you guys do good work. Got any traction bars kicking around in that shop of yours? lol

Thanks.

Don't have any traction bars. We put the stock shock plates back on that Z last fall.

Some progress, but still a ways to go...

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When you gonna get Joe his car back ?!! It's almost summa time !!

Big stage of it completed. All that's left on it is clean/paint. And wiring/lights. And the heater. And the ductwork. And the mixing room. And....

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When you gonna get Joe his car back ?!! It's almost summa time !!

It's in good hands!! Not like where it was before. Also had a life matter come up and I think they even kept me in the Q for my work. Can't ask for more than that!!

Maybe not this summer for her to be on the road but she will be next summer for sure!! I still have major work to still do after i get her back from Dave and Chris
Joe

Once the booth is up and running we'll finally be at capacity and moving some cars through :yes:

Joe, your car will be fun. Some creativity with it. Hope you like what we're gonna do with it :thumbsup:

Gonna paint it pink ? With flowers ?

Gonna paint it pink ? With flowers ?

Actually, right now we're leaning towards an Isetta-based theme for it :cool: