Your opinions on this 1111480 distributor

Looks like NOS, certainly doesn't look like a dizzie that has been spinning for 40 years. The stamping is really pristine, no nicks no gashes.

alan

Restamped

Yes , a definate RESTAMP !!

Who is selling it ?

Its not hard to rebuild a dizzy...
Last night the car club visited a workshop that rebuild dizzys, specialising in old/vintage stuff from all around the world...very interesting evening.

Who is selling it ?
I bought it out of the Sacramento Ca. area.
Blueprinted and rebuilt.

Not a real good restamp.

Did the seller represent it as real ? Who sold it ?

This is being discussed on CRG as well... did you buy it off of ebay?

Did the seller represent it as real ? Who sold it ?

This is being discussed on CRG as well... did you buy it off of ebay?
Brett Radanof

Roseville Ca.

"Authentic Non-Restamp Delco Remy Chevrolet Camaro DZ 302 stock distributor"

Got me good on this one ouch!! $725.00

Same old B.S. " All sales final No Refund" I'll try to file a dispute with E-bay and Pay-Pal but not expecting it will get anywhere.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=002&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=120283297839&rd=1

Please beware anytime the photos are not clear enough to tell anything by them... ask for more photos or ask if the seller will send the distributor to Jerry M... to be verified... tell him you will pay if it is real!

I also bought a fake 1111480 from Brett Radanof and had to fight like hell to get my money back. Brett has a website, www.z28crossram.com where he lists the 480s as real for $1000. When I called, and told him what date 480 I was looking for - can you believe that he had one perfectly dated for my car (see below)!!! I bought it and he promised that if it was fake, I could return it. Guess what... When I tried to return it, he lied and said he never said I could return it. I had to fight like hell to get my money back.

FYI:
The 480 I bought was dated 9B14 and it looked pretty good. I never thought I'd find a real 480 dated correctly for my Z28 so I had purchased a restamp from a real nice guy who sells restamped 480s and 837s on e-bay. The fake I bought from Brett looked a lot like the restamp I purchased from Marty (the e-bay seller). So I called Marty and asked if he made a 480 dated 9B14 for a guy recently and Marty told me he did.

Warning, do NOT do business with Brett, he is dishonest. I wonder how many people have bought fakes from Brett?

Newsflash... Brett has "real" 837s listed on his website for sale and some other rare alternators. Anybody think they are real?

Brett is somehow connected to a real 1969 Penske Z/28 (see his website). What a shame...

Have you asked him for a refund ?

Brett Radanof

Roseville Ca.

"Authentic Non-Restamp Delco Remy Chevrolet Camaro DZ 302 stock distributor"

Got me good on this one ouch!! $725.00

Same old B.S. " All sales final No Refund" I'll try to file a dispute with E-bay and Pay-Pal but not expecting it will get anywhere.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=002&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=120283297839&rd=1
So why does the seller still have 100% positive feedback?

Buyers should give negative feedback when it's deserved, otherwise bad sellers keep ripping people off.

Have you asked him for a refund ?

So why does the seller still have 100% positive feedback?

Buyers should give negative feedback when it's deserved, otherwise bad sellers keep ripping people off.

I’m trying to get a full or partial refund. He said he was going to give me a phone call two days ago but haven't received it yet.

If I don't here from him by Monday I'll file the dispute with E-Bay and Pay-Pal and fill in appropriate negative feedback.

I wanted to give him a chance to do the rite thing but no luck yet.

LeadFoot_69 sent a P.M. but havent herd back from you.

I did sell this distributor to a Team Camaro member. I purchased this distributor from a very well known collector that is actually a member of Team Camaro "ironically" enough and it was represented as authentic and non-restamp. When I got it I had questions as well about it being "real". I have a box of "nothing" distributors out of Camaros, Chevelles, El Caminos etc and I compared it to all of those distributors. At least one or two had the same stamping depth, font etc etc and most of them not one of them is the same stamping, they are all different. So maybe I got taken from this so called "legit" collector, I would like to think I didn't. Now I have to go back to him to "discuss" this issue. As far as the other comment from the other knuckle head who says I sold him a "restamp" distributor is full of bull AND I returned his money to him in a timely manner. Furthermore, if there is any question about the 837 Alternators I sell, I get them all from Ken Bruno Motorsports, call Ken and ask him if they are restamps. He is listed in Hemmings for your reference. I have NEVER EVER had someone return an 837 alternator to me that Ken Bruno sent to one of my customers.

So to all you know it alls, clill, Jerry M., z28doug, BARRY A etc etc, NO ONE KNOWS it all about Camaros. Why don't all yoiu know it alls do something more productive with your time like exercise, climb a rock, RACE vintage Trans Am cars etc etc something that actually gets your heart rate up to sustained aerobic/anarebic thresholds instead of sit behind a computer and try to slander a little Camaro hobbyist who is trying to make a little extra money with his hobby only to be slammed by losers who think they know it all. Oh thats right because you all seem not to have a life outside Camaros..............LOL

If the ad had stated "restamped distributor" there would not be a problem. Do you want to buy something that is not really what it is supposed to be? Pay more then you should?

Here is a private message that I got from Brett:
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Today, 02:32 AM
crossram67Z
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Sacrameto
Posts: 6
480 Distributor
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I would be real careful what you say on these forums. Your really starting to piss me off!

YEAH AND I DO HAVE FUUUUUUUUUUULLL ACCESS TO THE ONLY 69 PENSKE TRANS AM CAMARO IN EXISTENCE ANYTIME I WANT AS WELL AS ALL THE REST OF MY UNCLES TRANS AM RACE CARS.

What do you have?

Grow up!
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Here is my response, Brett:
Hmmmm... What do I have? I have my integrity; I have NOT sold restamps as real…. And that my friend is something you do not have! And your uncle can NOT buy that for you!
What did you do with the restamped 480 dated 9B14 that you sold me and I returned back to you (after I fought with you on the phone for weeks to get you to take it back)? One of the conditions for me returning the 480 was that you had another person to buy it and you got payment from him. Did you tell that poor bastard that it is a restamp? Or did you sell it AGAIN as real?
You gave me the same story (that you gave Metal Man) about how you purchased the 9B14 480 from a reputable person and had no idea that it was fake…

Why are you attacking these other people (Jerry M, Z28Doug, ect)?

Sleep well tonight, Brett! I will. And don't forget, honesty is always the best policy, especially in business.

Refund received last night.

I have a box of "nothing" distributors out of Camaros, Chevelles, El Caminos etc and I compared it to all of those distributors. At least one or two had the same stamping depth, font etc etc and most of them not one of them is the same stamping,

Correct...
It is my understanding, how these where stamped....
They where rolled on a conveyer over the stamp, the individual numbers /letters where held in place rather primitivly by grubb screws and shims and changed manually...there was always some movement in all directions
I have several HEIs and pionts from this era, and access to large boxes of them in a local workshop, these are old used orginals, even there is even a slight change in fonts.

Thanks Steptoe!! At least someone is coming forth and revealing facts about these distributors. Things were not perfect back in those days and they aren't today even with computer generated stampings.

Thanks Steptoe!! At least someone is coming forth and revealing facts about these distributors. Things were not perfect back in those days and they aren't today even with computer generated stampings.


:rolleyes:

Here is a private message that I got from Brett:
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Today, 02:32 AM
crossram67Z
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Sacrameto
Posts: 6
480 Distributor
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I would be real careful what you say on these forums. Your really starting to piss me off!

YEAH AND I DO HAVE FUUUUUUUUUUULLL ACCESS TO THE ONLY 69 PENSKE TRANS AM CAMARO IN EXISTENCE ANYTIME I WANT AS WELL AS ALL THE REST OF MY UNCLES TRANS AM RACE CARS.

What do you have?

Grow up!
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If he has access to the 69 Penske Camaro then he must be Ken's nephew... Ken is such a great guy I find it hard to believe the DNA took such a left turn here . I couldn't imagine anyone associated with Ken, let alone his nephew, talking this way (boisterous and rude ) regardless of these other issues. I sure hope he doesn't give you "full access" to our old Chris Cord Dekon Monza .....

Correct...
It is my understanding, how these where stamped....
They where rolled on a conveyer over the stamp, the individual numbers /letters where held in place rather primitivly by grubb screws and shims and changed manually...there was always some movement in all directions
I have several HEIs and pionts from this era, and access to large boxes of them in a local workshop, these are old used orginals, even there is even a slight change in fonts.

Thanks Steptoe!! At least someone is coming forth and revealing facts about these distributors. Things were not perfect back in those days and they aren't today even with computer generated stampings.

Im not taking any sides, just stating my own obersvations

I will also add, I have several old sets of stamps, and also compared to the stamps in a couple of other guys tool boxes....It seems none of the 'off the shelf' and old stamps, are quite different to the fonts used by GM
If any of these where used the compared to any of the orginal, the fonts would be very different...All the GM fonts, thu SLIGHTLY different, they are only SLIGHTLY.
So I would assume IF a dizzy was restamped, it would have very diff fonts, or the re stamper would have to tool up special stamps.

Here is another PM that Brett sent. I'm posting it because he is addressing the Camaros.net community and he gave me permission to post his PMs to me:
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Yesterday, 10:44 AM
crossram67Z
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Sacrameto
Posts: 7
480 Distributor
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You guys are all a joke............LOL..........please all of you, GET A LIFE............Keep posting my private emails to you. I really don't care.

Whatever.......I slept great last night, no worries because I know I have integrity, PERIOD!
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I'm certainly not an expert on 480s. As a matter of fact, I've been ripped off by scammers like Brett a couple times. Anyhow, looking at the restamp 480 in Metal Mans first post, it seems very obvious that the 480 you sold him is a restamp (like the one Brett sold me). Instead of putting down the Camaros.net community, you could learn from us on how to identify fake 480s.

Brett, your post above indicates that you returned my money without any problems? The only reason that I got my money back from you was because I told you I was going to contact your uncle, the local Camaro Clubs (in your area), the Better Business Bureau, ect... Plus I had to call you several times a day for weeks.

This PM from Brett also addresses the Camaros.net community:
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Yesterday, 11:08 AM
crossram67Z
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Sacrameto
Posts: 7
480 Distributor
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All of you who "contribute" your opinions about things on this "discussion site" you don't have true facts on are like a bunch of cockroaches, the more you squish, the more come out from under cover............hahahahahahaahahahahahahhaha....
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It is sad that someone in the small world of First Generation Camaros would have this attitude.

Cockroaches beware if you choose to do business with Brett and his business: www.z28crossram.com

LeadFoot_69, dude really get life really.............................all of ya PLEASE!

crossram, a nice apology to these 2 guys and a promise to never do it again would be a huge step forward.

Here is a private message that I got from Brett:
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Today, 02:32 AM
crossram67Z
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Sacrameto
Posts: 6
480 Distributor
________________________________________
I would be real careful what you say on these forums. Your really starting to piss me off!

YEAH AND I DO HAVE FUUUUUUUUUUULLL ACCESS TO THE ONLY 69 PENSKE TRANS AM CAMARO IN EXISTENCE ANYTIME I WANT AS WELL AS ALL THE REST OF MY UNCLES TRANS AM RACE CARS.


wow, can my dog have your baby?

Its a shame a response like the last one is allowed to remain without any negative input about it from anyone.

Its a shame a response like the last one is allowed to remain without any negative input about it from anyone.

:confused::confused::confused:
some guy is misrepresenting re-stamped parts for profit, got caught, is unrepentant, is arrogant, is hostile, is negative, is insulting and you're worried about Jim's response?

Or perhaps you're more concerned with the dog's welfare? That, at least, is understandable.

Just to clarify, the statement doesnt belong on ANY topic on a car site ,didnt mean it doesnt belong on this specific topic.

This is going nowhere fast. This thread is proabably close to being locked anyway.

:(:(:(
Hello, it is with great sadness that my first post has to deal with brett. I have had many dealings with him over the years. I have numerous nasty, visious, threatening emails from him. He has threatened me with physical harm as well as legal action. My success, as well as that of my friends has been assaulted by him. He is very brave from behind the keyboard. When caught, as he was here, he plays the victim. He uses any connection with the Penske car to make you think he is real and important. The same is true of his websites. It was like old times reading his rants about his access to Kens cars. OH YA, "he is important because he has friends with money", as I have heard him say. Make no mistake, he is a predator, not a victim.

I remember a previous ebay ad for a "RARE" crossram heatshield, complete with a parts tag. Only after much controversy did he admit that it was a repo---but indeed rare because it was the only one made. Then there was the original "kustom Headers" that he finally admitted were repo, not genuine.

The www.z28crossram.com website is NOT his only address. The www.taperfresto.com address is his as well. He is no longer welcome at the local Camaro club, or at one long standing local Camaro business.

It's VERY SAD that our hobby attracts all the fraud and misrepresentation that it does.:(:(

:(:(:(
Hello, it is with great sadness that my first post has to deal with brett. I have had many dealings with him over the years. I have numerous nasty, visious, threatening emails from him. He has threatened me with physical harm as well as legal action. My success, as well as that of my friends has been assaulted by him. He is very brave from behind the keyboard. When caught, as he was here, he plays the victim. He uses any connection with the Penske car to make you think he is real and important. The same is true of his websites. It was like old times reading his rants about his access to Kens cars. OH YA, "he is important because he has friends with money", as I have heard him say. Make no mistake, he is a predator, not a victim.

I remember a previous ebay ad for a "RARE" crossram heatshield, complete with a parts tag. Only after much controversy did he admit that it was a repo---but indeed rare because it was the only one made. Then there was the original "kustom Headers" that he finally admitted were repo, not genuine.

The www.z28crossram.com website is NOT his only address. The www.taperfresto.com address is his as well. He is no longer welcome at the local Camaro club, or at one long standing local Camaro business.

It's VERY SAD that our hobby attracts all the fraud and misrepresentation that it does.:(:(

Robert,
Welcome!! You've got to be the Robert I met several years ago. Thanks for sharing some of what you've dealt with over the years with this guy Brett. Reading some of his emails that were posted speaks volumns also. I think information about businesses/sellers/vendors needs to be available, good or bad, so the buyer can make his/her decision about a purchase accordingly.
Good to have you posting on TC!!
Doug

rjlZ28-Why don't you tell the truth? I just want to let the Camaro community that Robert is a guy who represents himself to be on the up and up but actually has performed fraudulant transactions himself some years ago. I have the testimonials from people who have dealt with Robert and can supply the sources if needed. BEWARE OF ROBERT.

Additionally, the reason Robert has posted this thread is that HE found himself in the middle of a sale of a Camaro transaction. I was partners in the selling of a 69Z28 and he decided he wanted to try and make some money with his friend Charley by asking me to sign the title over to the Z28 to my partner for less than the car was worth. Why would someone with good business sense do this if they really were a friend and did not have alterior motives? Robert wanted me to sign over the title for a sales price of $60,000. I knew I could get $72,500 for the Z28 which I did. So, anyone/everyone/Robert, tell me this why would someone in a partnership sign over title to his/her half of the value of the car for $12,500 less? Someone please answer the question for me. My question is WHY was Robert and his friend Charley even involved in this transaction? I had to get my attorney involved to keep Robert out of the transaction. This is what is VERY SAD.

As far as the Crossram Heat shield, my friend fabricated one and I put it on eBay as the only one in existence. Wayne Guinn emailed me and I called him and he told me he had the original so I added a note in the auction that mine was the only other one known to exist. As far as the "original Kustom" headers, I NEVER mentioned they were original GM's, PERIOD. Robert, your a LIAR.

I am still welcome at Camaro Generations meetings here in Sacramento and am VERY welcome at the local long standing camaro business, in FACT I have been doing A LOT of business of late with the "long standing camaro business" and its owner. BEWARE OF ROBERT, he tells half truths and lies. It is VERY SAD that our hobby attracts people like Robert that don't want to take reponsibilty for their past fraudulant activities and then go on a forum like this one and slander a true Camaro hobbyist.

:(:(:(
Hello, it is with great sadness that my first post has to deal with brett. I have had many dealings with him over the years. I have numerous nasty, visious, threatening emails from him. He has threatened me with physical harm as well as legal action. My success, as well as that of my friends has been assaulted by him. He is very brave from behind the keyboard. When caught, as he was here, he plays the victim. He uses any connection with the Penske car to make you think he is real and important. The same is true of his websites. It was like old times reading his rants about his access to Kens cars. OH YA, "he is important because he has friends with money", as I have heard him say. Make no mistake, he is a predator, not a victim.

I remember a previous ebay ad for a "RARE" crossram heatshield, complete with a parts tag. Only after much controversy did he admit that it was a repo---but indeed rare because it was the only one made. Then there was the original "kustom Headers" that he finally admitted were repo, not genuine.

The www.z28crossram.com (http://www.z28crossram.com) website is NOT his only address. The www.taperfresto.com (http://www.taperfresto.com) address is his as well. He is no longer welcome at the local Camaro club, or at one long standing local Camaro business.

It's VERY SAD that our hobby attracts all the fraud and misrepresentation that it does.:(:(

Hello and welcome to TC, Robert. I think I bought a 772 fan and a DG pulley from you if you are the Camaro guy in the same complex as Ed.

A typical way to tell restamped distributors is by the diameter of the housing. Typicaly I have found originals to measure 3.806-3.815 where the numbers are. Typical Restamps are spun down in the lathe to get rid of the numbers, and then restamped. The dist caps allways fit loose.
If it has been welded up and machined down to the correct diameter the metalurgy from the filler rod is usually different and can sometimes be seen by washing the dist with Brake Clean and look for colour differences.
The distributor in question on this post does have very deep fonts as compared to known originals. If a unstamped original housing was obtained and then restamped it would be harder to tell if it was original, some of the experts on TC would probably know by the font characters and numbers. The dist in question on this post does look a little TOO Nice. My original has characters and fonts that are much shallower. IMO.
Hope This Helps.

The distributor in question on this post does have very deep fonts as compared to known originals.
Yes , the units I have here the stamps are no where as perfectly squarly stamped in, hi and low sides to letters, and more crooked, uneven.