I hope Dodge doesn't do this with the Challenger :eek:


Car buyers sue Ford over limited edition vehicle
Mon Aug 4, 7:00 PM ET

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Car buyers sued Ford on Monday complaining that a limited edition of a modified Ford Mustang was not so limited after all.

The class action lawsuit on behalf of a New York man and other buyers of the 2007 Roush Stage 3 BlackJack vehicles claimed they paid a premium price of nearly $59,000 (30,000 pounds) last year because Ford advertised that only 100 would be made.

The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court in Manhattan, accused Ford and Roush Performance Products Inc of manufacturing at least 100 more of the vehicles in 2008.

Representatives of Ford were not immediately available to comment, a company spokeswoman said.

"The vehicles purchased by the plaintiff and the other class members were not as unique or rare as the defendants had stated them to be," the complaint said. "Their value from scarcity and as collectors' items were and are dramatically less than the buyers had been led to believe their value would be."

Ford manufactured a limited run of a modified version of the Ford Mustang, made especially for conversion by Roush into the Stage 3 BlackJack, the complaint said.

Drew Conner of Bardonia, N.Y., and at least 100 other people are members of the class seeking a jury trial and more than $12 million in damages


Link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080804/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_ford_collectors

Boo hoo hoo. Rich guys. Geeze!

Boo hoo hoo. Rich guys. Geeze!


So it's ok to jack up a rich guy? Ford sells these cars to these "rich" guys based on the idea that only a limited number are available, then decides to make and sell some more? That's wrong, and I don't care how money a guy has.

looks to me like they bought 2007 models and the other 100 were 2008 models

If they only made 100 of each model year, then the plaintiffs do not have much of a case IMHO. If they exceeded the stated production within the same model year, then it's a different story.

Not sure how their math adds up...Assuming $59K x 100 people =$5.9 million, so lets sue Ford for $12M? :(Sound like greedy rich guys from here. I guess the lawyers need their cut. :cool:

I guess the thing that bums me out most about stuff like this is these people are simply buying the car for its potential future value? To me, a car is to enjoy and be driven. When I see these survivor cars at auction with 7,000 miles on it, I just kind of shake my head. Don't get me wrong, it's really cool to see a car like that, but a car to me is an overall package--great to look at and fun to drive. Those cars have simply been looked at. I'm sure people have other opinions on this, but that's what I think anyway.

I guess the thing that bums me out most about stuff like this is these people are simply buying the car for its potential future value? .

Their car, their money. I don't care what the reason is for buying the car (Barrett Jackson buyers do it too).

Would it be ok to sell a fake Z to guy just because he can afford it? I don't know all the ins and outs of the Ford deal, but to dismiss out of hand the notion that a guy with money can't be screwed over, to me just seems wrong. I bought my Camaro, restored it, and hardly ever drive it. Am I dishonoring the car by not driving it as much as I could be? Maybe I'm wrong, and it is ok to screw over guys with cash. I never thoght that mattered much, and that wrong was wrong regardless.

Dealers made their money too, by bs'n the buyer, you can be prety sure of that too...hey reminds me, back in 98 Ford got sued for advertising the 98 cobra as puting x amount of hp and the owners who paid premium for the cobra were geting stock gt hp reading...
It's not a question of money, it's a question of integrity. Geting riped off just hurts, doesn't matter if you can "afford" to get riped off or not!

Cmon, this is weak. They made 100 2007 Roush stg 3 Mustangs. The 2008 are a totally different car, and I dont care if they are made of all the same parts! I dont see how that can hold up in court.

I guess the thing that bums me out most about stuff like this is these people are simply buying the car for its potential future value? To me, a car is to enjoy and be driven. When I see these survivor cars at auction with 7,000 miles on it, I just kind of shake my head. Don't get me wrong, it's really cool to see a car like that, but a car to me is an overall package--great to look at and fun to drive. Those cars have simply been looked at. I'm sure people have other opinions on this, but that's what I think anyway.

Agreed :cool:

I remember there was a similar issue with the guys that bought '92 Firehawks. Were told by SLP that they would be a one year thing only. There was litigation once they started building the 4th gen 'hawks, but don't know how it ended up.

Greedy yes, but limited edition is limited edition. Limited edition to me is get them while you can this car with specs will never be made factory again. But I guess everyone sees it differently lol. I had one of these behind me the monday when I was coming off the freeway. I wasnt too impressed besides it being all blacked out, didnt move to fast.

I guess the thing that bums me out most about stuff like this is these people are simply buying the car for its potential future value? To me, a car is to enjoy and be driven. When I see these survivor cars at auction with 7,000 miles on it, I just kind of shake my head. Don't get me wrong, it's really cool to see a car like that, but a car to me is an overall package--great to look at and fun to drive. Those cars have simply been looked at. I'm sure people have other opinions on this, but that's what I think anyway.

I know some folks that have a 2001 Vette. They bought it new and today the thing has 3400 miles on it. That's three thousand four hundred miles!

Another guy I know of bought a 1987 Buick Grand National ... Brand new ... For the sole purpose of "getting rich" on it. The car sits in his garage with less then 4500 miles on it.

To each their own, I guess. I just don't know if I would have the discipline to have some of these cars and then never drive them.

I agree, seeing the 7500 mile survivor cars is sad IMO.
Drive it, It's what it's for.
Someone did some interesting math on a car that is just bought and just sits for X years then winds up at auction.
Basically it a lost money deal, the storage, the insurance, etc.
It was interesting.
The Ford Mustang Cobra deal years ago was the adv h/p. as being like 380, when owners of the cars strapped 'em on the dyno, the came out to more like 340-350 after doing the math on drivetrain loss.... That's what I read.
We have an '01 GT Mustang, Cobras walk right by it. Our stock '01 GT would dyno around 230+/- at the rear wheels. (Cold air kit only on it.)

How many Ltd. Edition PT Losers you see driving around? Pretty much all right? Some ltd edition. :sad:

Back to orig post.
100 in 2007, 100 in 2008, it'll be thrown out of court.