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click
Aug 16th, 08, 02:44 PM
Went to the farm this morning, pulled some old junk and boards out of the woods near the house, pushed them into the barn out of site. Then opened the garage to check on Thunder and there is my ZTR sitting at a 33% lean, back tire is flat on the right side, dang it... back to the house for my hydraulic jack, then back to the shop, then no wrench in my tool box that fit the lug nuts... opened the Camaro trunk and got my trusty 4way out, removed the wheel and back into town to tire store, they find a small wire type thingy in it, patched and then back to the farm, lugnuts back on, then off to the woods where I noticed something last time I mowed, more implements in the tall grass. Got my tow rope out and yanked this contraption out of the thicket... what the yeck is this? It has knife like blades that stick down into the ground, manual control on adjusting them and its pulled by horse or tractor but what the heck is it? Any of your farm guys remember?

Next topic: I took pics inside the barn now that is nearly empty.
I need to figure a way to vent this in summer for now, maybe some wind turbines on top, a few gable end vents too, or maybe a power gable fan with the louvers that open when the fan runs. Anyone got ideas that you have used to vent a barn?
Needed to take a break, to hot in the sun out there today. Time for a cool one and some olympics maybe

http://www.carsbyjim.com/storage/Farm/Implement.jpg
http://www.carsbyjim.com/storage/Farm/Implement2.jpg
http://www.carsbyjim.com/storage/Farm/Implement3.jpg
http://www.carsbyjim.com/storage/Farm/Implement4.jpg
http://www.carsbyjim.com/storage/Farm/Implement5.jpg
http://www.carsbyjim.com/storage/Farm/Implement6.jpg
http://www.carsbyjim.com/storage/Farm/BarnAug16%20001.jpg
http://www.carsbyjim.com/storage/Farm/BarnAug16%20002.jpg
http://www.carsbyjim.com/storage/Farm/BarnAug16%20003.jpg
http://www.carsbyjim.com/storage/Farm/BarnAug16%20004.jpg

Everett#2390
Aug 16th, 08, 03:19 PM
It is a horse-drawn harrow. The single hole upfront is the drawbar, reins would attach there for pulling, and the hole in the air is for bolting a seat, one of those stamped steel saddles with holes.

The ratcheting levers adjust the angle of the tines to set the depth the implement into the plowed ground. Soil needs broken up for plowing for seeds to germinate and rain water to soak in. The more you 'work' the soil, the finer the grain becomes, the better the seeds grow.

Some point in time, you should attend a Thrasher's Convention and the older implements come out. If the affair is set up, you'll see them 'harvest' wheat or oats as in the early century plus see some steam tractors and the like. Makes for quite a day of history and entertainment and damn good food.

Ken Larsen
Aug 16th, 08, 07:12 PM
Like Everett said, it is a harrow-i think they were also called a springtooth harrow. being an old farm boy i recall some of those terms. For the barn (on the farm we would have called it a machine shed or pole barn) if you install a couple of louvered fans like you stated that should draw some of the heat out. we always used them in the cow barns to draw the heat out for the animals. check with places that sell farm stuff-like fleet farm they carry em. i think minnesota has some farms right??? and don't ask how old i am since this brings back my childhood !!!:o

67 camaro in progress

mb302rs
Aug 16th, 08, 08:04 PM
Next topic: I took pics inside the barn now that is nearly empty.
I need to figure a way to vent this in summer for now, maybe some wind turbines on top, a few gable end vents too, or maybe a power gable fan with the louvers that open when the fan runs. Anyone got ideas that you have used to vent a barn?
Needed to take a break, to hot in the sun out there today. Time for a cool one and some olympics .


I think both would help. The next thing I would do is pour a concrete floor. Without it condensation is going to be a killer. It would make the space more useable :yes:

zuma
Aug 16th, 08, 08:12 PM
If it was aluminum Jim, I thought it was the end of what is buried in Joe's backyard...;)

HarleyD67
Aug 16th, 08, 09:02 PM
Well Jim I got home too late to answer back on the harrow. I'm not old enough to have used one. "my family had tractors when I was a kid" The horses where just for ridding then. As far as the shed either roof top turbines or power gable vents as mentioned. The gable vents are easier to install after the fact and are far less likely to let snow in in the winter. Farm&Fleet or Fleet/Farm will have them. Otherwise the Home Depot in most areas in our state have them as well.

Lost in the 60's
Aug 16th, 08, 09:11 PM
A couple of wind powered turbine vents should help a lot. It appears to have an over hang already are the soffits vented ?? That will provide the make-up air. I think there is a Fleet Farm or Farm and Fleet up there. They should have the vents and an adapter to fit the corrugated roof panels.

You need to make a display of all the old equipment out by the road. Kill all the vegetation in a half acre circle and cover it with weed fabric and rock. Less grass to cut and some place to put the old iron........:D

Steptoe
Aug 17th, 08, 12:07 AM
The roof is of some concern...dont know building codes over there but
Here chicken mesh is laid on the rafters, the black tar paper laid, then the roof
This stops condesation, and dropping off onto whatever is stored in the shed.

Thats rather a high stud, do u realy think venting is realy needed??

TimSS
Aug 17th, 08, 03:57 AM
Hi
i would say the implement is actually a set of disc harrows with the disc asembally missing the tynes you see are the scrapers that scrape the discs to prevent them blocking up.The bearing blocks are for the main shaft that all the discs bolt to.

Tim

onovakind67
Aug 17th, 08, 06:23 AM
http://ruralmissourian.christianagrarian.com/Pictures/4708/5a.jpg

Like this one....

X33D80
Aug 17th, 08, 07:08 AM
I think both would help. The next thing I would do is pour a concrete floor. Without it condensation is going to be a killer. It would make the space more useable :yes:

It may go without saying but be sure to put a sheet of plastic down before pouring the concrete. This forms a vapor barrier to keep moisture from coming up through the concrete.

click
Aug 17th, 08, 07:53 AM
The concrete will go in when we move to the farm and remodel/add onto the house, then the barn gets concrete, the camaro shop and another single garage and the barn all get concrete aprons, then tar driveway half way out, then crushed concrete the rest of the way to the road.
If I put in a ceiling in the barn, then Id for sure poly under the sheet rock before blowing in insulation. Any venting will help in summer and winter for sure.
Step... it was 95 in the barn yesterday, outside it was 85, so its taking in and holding heat, vents will keep it closer to outside temp if nothing else. :) thanks guys.

The 2nd to the last implement pic (#5) there are odd shaped round steel thingys on the ground, very solid piece of steel with the roundy thingys on either side of it but again I have no clue what they are for, maybe the discs go there as Tim mentioned? That pic with the mules pulling ... I can see the sharp knife type bars hanging down near the discs... how do the discs attach if that is what I have here?
I love a mystery, maybe I will take more pics today too.

onovakind67
Aug 17th, 08, 08:16 AM
The 2nd to the last implement pic (#5) there are odd shaped round steel thingys on the ground, very solid piece of steel with the roundy thingys on either side of it but again I have no clue what they are for, maybe the discs go there as Tim mentioned? That pic with the mules pulling ... I can see the sharp knife type bars hanging down near the discs... how do the discs attach if that is what I have here?
I love a mystery, maybe I will take more pics today too.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/1/10/Diskharrow.png

Those are the hubs that the discs mount on. There is an axle that the discs rotate on. The levers adjust the angularity of the disc assemblies so you can adjust the angle of attack and also keep it going straight.

click
Aug 17th, 08, 08:18 AM
There ya go, I can see Im missing discs and now I see how it all goes together. I wondered how this thing 'rode' along, its on the discs that I dont have :) Thanks :D

Lost in the 60's
Aug 17th, 08, 08:45 AM
I wondered how this thing 'rode' along, its on the discs that I dont have :)

The kids needed toys, so they turned into Frisbee's.:hurray:

onovakind67
Aug 17th, 08, 08:48 AM
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_HQtoBRJSzew/SCd5wGkyv9I/AAAAAAAAA_g/fBY1aRPXhHg/Snake_Black_Pot_Fundraiser_2008_018.jpg

Or they cook in them. "Wok This Way" as Aerosmith would say...

click
Aug 17th, 08, 08:58 AM
Ive seen discs used as a base for dock posts to hold up the dock on the lake :D

click
Aug 17th, 08, 06:08 PM
Ok got some pics of the barn soffits, they are vented all the way around so thats great news.

http://www.carsbyjim.com/storage/Farm/BarnSoffitAug17%20001.jpg

I also need to add venting to the camaro's shop, but need to cut into the plywood soffits and install aluminum plates to open them up to air flow at the same time...
http://www.carsbyjim.com/storage/Farm/ShopSoffitAug17%20001.jpg

Now I got pics of the huge box I hauled out of the woods too, my dad thinks its an old 'wood box' for outside the back door in winter, where you keep a few days supply of oak to burn when its cold, so you dont have to walk across the farm to the woodpile. Its sure sturdy and pretty waterproof. Any other ideas?

http://www.carsbyjim.com/storage/Farm/WoodboxAug17%20001.jpg
http://www.carsbyjim.com/storage/Farm/WoodboxAug17%20002.jpg

Z15CAM
Aug 17th, 08, 07:09 PM
That's a Horse Shoeing Box and what look like early 50 Mercury and Evinrude Outboard Gas Tanks in the Back Ground and the center one looks like Elgin Tank - LOL

Lost in the 60's
Aug 17th, 08, 07:22 PM
That's a Horse Shoeing Box and what look like early 50 Mercury and Evinrude Outboard Gas Tanks in the Back Ground.

And the motor is on the shelf below ...:cool:

Pole shed is ventilated well enough, just need to let the heat out the top. Wind turbines should be sufficient.

Camaro house needs your help. Installing soffit vents and roof turbine will help a lot, That building is cooking the shingles now...:yes:

Jim, with all the antiques you're finding around there, you should break even on the purchase price soon......:D

Keep the pics coming, this is fun......:thumbsup:

novaderrik
Aug 17th, 08, 09:46 PM
that steel stuff you keep finding is just worthless junk- i'll be up there next weekend with my scrap iron hauler to take it away for ya... free of charge, even...

click
Aug 18th, 08, 07:56 AM
Those gas tanks and motor on the shelves in the background belong to previous owner who is coming back this fall to get them. He didnt have room in his truck on the last load.

Ron, horseshoeing box? Never heard of anything like that. Do you have a connection to that business or a way to find information on old parts used in that business? Its intriguing.
Sorry Derrik, the steel stays, the Mrs. has plans for it already :)

onovakind67
Aug 18th, 08, 08:07 AM
http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/toolbox/toolpicsb/91-9498.gif

A person who shoes horses is called a farrier. A farrier's box holds his tools and supplies, and is usually a lot smaller than the box you show.

click
Aug 18th, 08, 08:15 AM
This box I have weighs about 100 lbs, I have to drag it around inch by inch.... not very handy for your farrier to haul from horse to horse Id say...if you find something large like that in a farrier's use, let me know, its still interesting.
hmmm maybe back to firewood storage box?

clwilcox33
Aug 18th, 08, 08:28 AM
This box I have weighs about 100 lbs, I have to drag it around inch by inch.... not very handy for your farrier to haul from horse to horse Id say...if you find something large like that in a farrier's use, let me know, its still interesting.
hmmm maybe back to firewood storage box?

Well if it IS something used for shoeing, I'd assume they'd lead the horses to it, not the other way around :p

davidpozzi
Aug 18th, 08, 11:26 AM
Any bolt holes in the bottom of the box? it may have been a "Trunk" for the back of a car holding tools, or bolted on it's back side to the side of a wagon or truck along the frame rail.

I'd have spray on insulation put on the barn, along with vents, but I don't like the turbine vents, they rattle and on a metal roof the noise is amplified. We get a lot of wind here every afternoon, and the building we have turbines on makes a racket.

My shop has "Ridge Vents", they have chains to crank open a trap door to turn them off or on. Nice and quiet.
David
http://www.steelbuilding.com/buildings/bin/ridge_vent_01-1.jpg

click
Aug 18th, 08, 11:38 AM
Thanks David, ridge vents are an option but mostly when being built I think. My ridge cap is all bolted in place and while I could have some kind of ridge vent installed, it will be pricey with removing the current system. I will have a ceiling put inside in the future, and insulated over that, so any turbine noise should be muffled in the work area. If I was going to keep it all open, yes those things would drive me nuts too.
We have them on our current home and you cant hear them, even outside, watching them twirl, I cant hear them at all but thats on a wood roof and shingles too. Big difference Im sure.
I was over there earlier today and it was 90 inside there already, 82 outside. gag it was stifling.
Wish I could see some other ferrier with a box like this, so I could compare sizes etc. That thing would drop the rear of a pickup truck when its full of shoes and tools. :)

69mustang
Nov 19th, 08, 06:15 PM
Jim I just read this today and wanted to warn you abut the condensation problem you may encounter with that steel roof. I have two "pole barns" and they both drip with condensation during the winter months. If keeping something valuable in there beware as the condensation can be hard on things such as cars it forms ice and then can fall from the rafters causing hail like damage. FYI

okiemark
Nov 23rd, 08, 08:38 PM
two-horse power.

vr1967
Nov 24th, 08, 06:48 AM
http://ruralmissourian.christianagrarian.com/Pictures/4708/5a.jpg

Like this one....

Never seen a setup like this. Here in SW Mississippi, the "Haw" (left) animal is the lead and only has reins. Also, we use a "double tree" with 2 single trees to connect the animals. While I am only in my late 30s, my grandfather NEVER owned a tractor, and always plowed with mules, so I have stood on the South end of one many a day.
When he passed, my grandmother sold most everything he had, but I just recently ended up with the old homeplace, and am finding numerous plows, stalk cutters, hay cutters, etc in sheds they didn't look in. My brother and I are about to start a new restoration process, up to and including me buying a mule.
Sorry for the ramble.

click
Nov 24th, 08, 08:13 AM
IC, since I wont be running any vehicles inside the pole barn in winter, I should not have any condensation to worry about off the roof panels. It will be close to the same temp inside as outside brrrrr :D
If any moisture somehow did show up, I can always turn on my gable fan and exhaust out, manually.