I just picked up a 70 Chevelle for my 14 year old son for him and I to build he wants it to be Pro-Street I've done a few unabody cars but not a full chassis car.

To all the PS guys what are your thoughts [keep in mind 14 years old] but he is a good kid so far.What is out there four the Chevelle and what are his and my best options?Before you say Team Chevelle he has already joined up over there and will be searching and talking it over with some of those guys add gals...

I will post some picks later....Thanks in advance

VERY COOL!! My son is about the same age and could care less about cars.

A full frame car is going to be easier. Chevelles already can hold a lot of tire with minimum work. If it were me I would just notch the frame keep the 4 link the car came with just upgrade the control arms. When I say "notch" the frame I mean build a step into the frame to allow clearance for tires and axle. Should be failry cheap and easy. It's a much better foundation than a uni-body car.

Check out S & W Race Cars inSpring City Pa. They sell a pre-welded frame kit that slips right up into the stock frame, is welded in place, and then the section of the old frame is cut out. Give them a call and they can explain it better.

Lou

Check out S & W Race Cars inSpring City Pa. They sell a pre-welded frame kit that slips right up into the stock frame, is welded in place, and then the section of the old frame is cut out. Give them a call and they can explain it better.

Lou


That is exactly what I was talking about. I didn't explain it very well though.

Dave,

Sounds like a great project.

I have a friend with a 69 chevelle that is a older prostreet car. He cut out his factory rear frame rails and then added a 2 x 3 square channel across the 2 frame rails then added the factory frame rails to it so the frame was narrower. It is easier to do than our camaros.

But like Royce and Lou said there are easier kits now.

Thanks for the input I think the first recomendation was for me to try and use the original equipment. The ladder bar set up will be more of an expence than we have right now with the goodmark parts and need a motor. He has to have a BBC too because the SBC looks lost in a Chevelle so my son says for the excuse to get the BBC I think.

Royce,is there any links on the web you know of that has any description on the best way to do this I think the stock suspension will be the best ride and I want to retain the back seat.

Thanks for the input I think the first recomendation was for me to try and use the original equipment. The ladder bar set up will be more of an expence than we have right now with the goodmark parts and need a motor. He has to have a BBC too because the SBC looks lost in a Chevelle so my son says for the excuse to get the BBC I think.

Royce,is there any links on the web you know of that has any description on the best way to do this I think the stock suspension will be the best ride and I want to retain the back seat.

I don't know of any links but I would check the S&W website to see what the kit looks like. that should give you a pretty good idea. Also try doing a search for "tubbed Chevelle" I bet there is plebty of info out there.

When I saw what you wanted to do that is the first idea that popped into my head and that's how I would do it. Clean, simple, functional, and much less esxpensive.

I have to agree with your son on a BBC in a Chevelle and I am a SBC kind of guy. Certain cars just cry out for a BBC like the early Monte Carlos, you can almost fit 2 SBC under the hood.

As you probably already figured out: The Performance forum on Team Chevelle should get all the BB info he will ever need (and then some). I have two back-halfed A-bodies in varying stages of project form:

http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/data/500/medium/HPIM0338.JPG

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r167/jwamod/TC%20stuff/orangepig.jpg

Plus Old Blue runs a 305/50 street tire with some upgraded arms on the rear suspension:

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r167/jwamod/Old%20Blue/jeffss2a.jpg

When do we get to see some pics?

Hes out there now workin on it taking the front off hes happy as a kid in a candy store oh he is a kid.I just gave my buddy a list for all the sheet metal to order.I post some picks after that.Thanks for the intrest I think this is going to be fun.He is still not sure if he wants to back half it...

Dave,
With your fabrication skills,that '70 Chevelle is gonna be as nice as your '69 Camaro:yes:. I think it would look good with the "Heavy Chevy" graphics on it!!

I just picked up a 70 Chevelle for my 14 year old son for him and I to build he wants it to be Pro-Street I've done a few unabody cars but not a full chassis car.


I wish I had a Dad like you! :thumbsup:

And it's your Birthday today as well...Happy Birthday there Dave!

Thanks Joe for your thoughts and relpy and I think this project is gonna be more fun for me than him.He is realy keyed up about it.He is in Vo-Tech and cant wait till he gets into his body shop class.

Here are some pics of my sons car I think it has potential.Check out this blog on this Chevelle how the fella narrowed his frame.
http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214495&highlight=camcojb
some pics:
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc355/LILzxXxBlaZen83/My%20Chevelle%20And%20My%20Dads%2069%20Camaro/redchevelle011.jpg
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc355/LILzxXxBlaZen83/My%20Chevelle%20And%20My%20Dads%2069%20Camaro/PICT0614.jpg
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc355/LILzxXxBlaZen83/My%20Chevelle%20And%20My%20Dads%2069%20Camaro/PICT0636.jpg
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc355/LILzxXxBlaZen83/My%20Chevelle%20And%20My%20Dads%2069%20Camaro/PICT0639.jpg
I think we are going to replace all the sheet metal except the roof,doors, rockers,and back panel....

OK, ordered the sheet metal now looking at back halves.I looking for suggestions I like the S+W but its a little pricey but it retains mot of the floor.Here are our two choices.
http://www.swracecars.com/store/64-72-Chevelle-OSCARItem_136=10-501.aspx
second:
http://stores.checkeredracing.com/Detail.bok?no=5

Dave,
I sent you a PM. Were you able to find the kit to modify your stock frame rails? That would be a LOT less work and probably save you some coin too. Either way you are going to have to cut it for the tire/tubs.

I'm not sure which way to go did you look at the checkered racing back half its $795.If you get a minute check it out I think the rails jump up to quick.

I love Chevelles.:thumbsup:
I had a 71 in high School, had alot of fun in that one.

Brian

I love Chevelles.:thumbsup:
I had a 71 in high School, had alot of fun in that one.

Brian

I do as well!! I would love to own a blown Pro Street '69 Chevelle if I didn't already have my '69 Camaro :yes:

OK, ordered the sheet metal now looking at back halves.I looking for suggestions I like the S+W but its a little pricey but it retains mot of the floor.Here are our two choices.
http://www.swracecars.com/store/64-72-Chevelle-OSCARItem_136=10-501.aspx
second:
http://stores.checkeredracing.com/Detail.bok?no=5
If you guys get a minute check out these back halves and tell me what one looks the best for the money and adaptability.........

SW Race Cars rear frame gets my vote!!

If you guys get a minute check out these back halves and tell me what one looks the best for the money and adaptability.........

I have used S&W and don't care for then. Their rails are not mandrel bent and have kinks in them.

The Checkered looks better to me.

Brian

you can't beat s&w's kit for ease of installation

I have an S&W kit in my car. I was installed about 7 years ago (only on the road for the last 2 years). I 've had no issues with it. I didn't install it myself but the chassis shop that did my car had nothing but good things to say about it and said they would use the clips from S&W on other cars after doing my car. I'm not saying the other kit it's any good, just that I'm pleased with the S&W clip both in quality and price.

Thanks Joe for your thoughts and relpy and I think this project is gonna be more fun for me than him.He is realy keyed up about it.He is in Vo-Tech and cant wait till he gets into his body shop class.

Dave, it's great to have a young kid interested in old muscle cars, I really love talking to the kids at cruise-in's(what few come). One thing I learned personally is don't give up on kids if they are not interested. My son played sports in high school and wasn't interested in old cars but to my surprise started coming to shows once he graduated. He now owns a 67 Camaro and works on it when not going to college. He has done primarily all of the body work so far and built his first motor this summer. Your son is lucky to have someone with so much knowledge as you helping him.

Dave,

Thats a great car. I personally like the 70 chevelle the best. That has been my favorite car.

Just make sure he has the brakes fixed before he drives it. Just Kidding LOL

Dave, it's great to have a young kid interested in old muscle cars, I really love talking to the kids at cruise-in's(what few come). One thing I learned personally is don't give up on kids if they are not interested. My son played sports in high school and wasn't interested in old cars but to my surprise started coming to shows once he graduated. He now owns a 67 Camaro and works on it when not going to college. He has done primarily all of the body work so far and built his first motor this summer. Your son is lucky to have someone with so much knowledge as you helping him.
Thanks Kieth for your input we are lucky to have sons that dont want to drive a Honda's.We need to make the decision or he needs to make his mind up on what he wants to do with the back half.Why dont you start a post with your sons car and let us in on whats happening I would sure like it...

Dave,

Thats a great car. I personally like the 70 chevelle the best. That has been my favorite car.

Just make sure he has the brakes fixed before he drives it. Just Kidding LOL

This is still brought up at least once a week with all my buddies.I'm just glad its behind me it si definatly something to laugh about now....

Thanks Kieth for your input we are lucky to have sons that dont want to drive a Honda's.We need to make the decision or he needs to make his mind up on what he wants to do with the back half.Why dont you start a post with your sons car and let us in on whats happening I would sure like it...

Dave,sorry it took so long to reply, went to Grand Run in Pidgeon Forge TN for a couple of days, trust you son's decision making unless it is a safety issue, I haven't agreed with my son's decisions much but somehow it comes out looking OK. I have documented his build with many pics but unsure where to show the progression of car but here is a couple of pics anyway. Keith

Dave,sorry it took so long to reply, went to Grand Run in Pidgeon Forge TN for a couple of days, trust you son's decision making unless it is a safety issue, I haven't agreed with my son's decisions much but somehow it comes out looking OK. I have documented his build with many pics but unsure where to show the progression of car but here is a couple of pics anyway. Keith
This looks like good times to remember I hope things go like this with my son.Did you build the rotissory or buy it?If you built it did you get a drawing for it...Thanks Dave

hey dave nice project.

Nice to see you are still around Matt.We just ordered $3500 in sheet metal and getting ready to get the ladder bar back half will be starting the frame in the next couple weeks or so.

Yea I have been looking on time from time. I have been really busy at work. I got promoted to Sgt. so I have been extremely busy with work. I now work 13 hour days.

Nice to see you are still around Matt.We just ordered $3500 in sheet metal and getting ready to get the ladder bar back half will be starting the frame in the next couple weeks or so.


:thumbsup: How big of tire are going with?

18.5X15X31 Mickeys

Any progress Dave??????

Just got him a 463 aluminum head 700 hp BBC thats fresh for $3500.Still waiting on the sheet metal my buddy that is ordering it his mom passed and I dont have the heart to ask if its on the road.I am looking at some ideas on TC for the construction of a rotissorie for his car to make it easier.Starting to get into the winter months here and also daylight savings both get me down in the dumps with the short cold days.My wife hates me around this time of year and tells me to get over it and get a sun lamp.
This is all I have right now but will keep you all posted.Thanks for asking....

Cant wait to see some progress i know how long these things take but i have looked at my own project in little chapters lol seems to keep things from getting overwelming.

Just got him a 463 aluminum head 700 hp BBC....

I wanna see that:yes:. Post a pic or two when you can.

Dave -- gotta get some pics -- especially one of your son with a big smile on his face as he tackles a cool project with dad

He's out there now getting stuff organized to start.

Just got him a 463 aluminum head 700 hp BBC thats fresh for $3500.

Didn't you say this young man was 14? I hope you plan to take about 30 years to finish this car for him. That is a LOT of motor for a young man. I don't know your son but, that would have been nothing but, trouble for me and any other kid I knew growing up. That's a heck of a deal on the engine though I would have bought it too.

He's my good kid he says if he builds it he wont tear it up so that is whats gonna happen.I just plan on pointing and saying do dat.He is planning on being a bodyman and is taking autobody in Vo-Tech so if he breaks it he has to fix it.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff229/1969ProStreetCamaro/180px-Animooted-bump1.gif?t=1227224053



Just got him a 463 aluminum head 700 hp BBC ....


.......hey Dave...have you taken a pic. of the BBC yet?????????

Heres some pics my son took with his phone....What is the pic of the fat dude.
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/motor2.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/motor3.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/motor.jpg

....What is the pic of the fat dude.



............he's "bumpin' the thread to the top of this forum

Motor's looking great! keep us posted!

Engine looks good Dave. It would look even better if it had a set of custom headers made by Dan Lemons of Lemons Headers:yes:.

nice motor!

Matt where you been...I been looking into building a rotissorie and found these for it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370117649961&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&viewitem=
But the wife says wait till after Christmas.Should be getting the sheet metal soon from goodmark.

lol i got married man.

lol i got married man.
Congrats to you and the new Bride now I guess her money and your money both go to the car....So you coming back to the boards now or what I may need some help...

Congrats to you and the new Bride now I guess her money and your money both go to the car....So you coming back to the boards now or what I may need some help...


lol The money what money. You know i got ur back!

Congrats any recent photos of the velle yet?

Congrats any recent photos of the velle yet?
No its getting to be the time of year that I kinda hide from the cold I may start on the rotissorie after the Holidays...My wife told me I cant buy the parts till she gets the shopping done but that could be when I'm in the ground because she shops all year round.She told me a week ago the shopping was done so I don't know where I stand,maybe the credit card is full....

any updates?

We got all the sheet metal Thursday just waiting for it to warm up a little.

We got all the sheet metal Thursday just waiting for it to warm up a little.


New sheetmetal:hurray::hurray::hurray:.

David F.

He's keyed up on working on it but its still a little cold yet...

Dave - make sure you keep us posted on any progress -- its gettin' warmer outside

Dave - make sure you keep us posted on any progress -- its gettin' warmer outside
Will do he asked again last night when we were gettin started....

Will do he asked again last night when we were gettin started....

and?.............

Sometime soooooooooon

Sometime soooooooooon
That was my answer.

ummm I'm waiting!

It snowed herr today ya know.Its still to cold we were in the garage yesterday to get some tires down from my sons old Explorer that I sold and he was asking again.I told him if he wanted to take money out of his acount to by the propane for the heat we could start and you know where that went.

I have been lurking over at Team Chevelle popping a few questions in the PS forum and aint found any good suggestions yet about the way I want to do the chassis.I have to get the shed done for the Camaro then build a rotissorie do some shingle work on the front of my roof replace some cracked tiles in my family room where I used this orange rubber that suposidly stops the cracks in concrete from cracking the tile but didn't work and so on.Aint ya glad you asked,hey what you doing next weekend I could use a tile man slash roofer stop by...lol...Itsallgood I'll get to it when I get to it.I dont have long though I am 47 and the days are getting shorter because I cant last as long.

Oh I am working five 10s and an 8 and the extra money I make my wife and him desided it could go to his car, feature that.

It snowed herr today ya know.Its still to cold we were in the garage yesterday to get some tires down from my sons old Explorer that I sold and he was asking again.I told him if he wanted to take money out of his acount to by the propane for the heat we could start and you know where that went.

I have been lurking over at Team Chevelle popping a few questions in the PS forum and aint found any good suggestions yet about the way I want to do the chassis.I have to get the shed done for the Camaro then build a rotissorie do some shingle work on the front of my roof replace some cracked tiles in my family room where I used this orange rubber that suposidly stops the cracks in concrete from cracking the tile but didn't work and so on.Aint ya glad you asked,hey what you doing next weekend I could use a tile man slash roofer stop by...lol...Itsallgood I'll get to it when I get to it.I dont have long though I am 47 and the days are getting shorter because I cant last as long.

You dont have a heater for the garage?

Oh I am working five 10s and an 8 and the extra money I make my wife and him desided it could go to his car, feature that.

Imagine that!

Wheres the photos!

slacking on the photos

No updates as of now...

Got the shed finnished...
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/100_0069.jpg


http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/100_0088.jpg
Now we can consetrate on his car we set up the lift today and its up in the air ready to pull the frame.While he is doing that I will start to build the rotissorie.
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/100_0079.jpg


http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/100_0064.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/100_0069.jpg


http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/100_0088.jpg


Looks awesome Dave:yes::thumbsup::thumbsup:.

David F.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/100_0069.jpg


http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/100_0088.jpg


Looks awesome Dave:yes::thumbsup::thumbsup:.

David F.Thanks David I am kinda happy with end result.

HHHMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!! So you call that a shed. I hate to see where you keep your toys.

Very nice.

HHHMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!! So you call that a shed. I hate to see where you keep your toys.

Very nice.
Thanks for the compliment Kirk,I think you car would look good in a shed of this type itself.

I am doing pretty well on the rottissorie I have research it as to where it will be pretty nice...

Well I have some progress not much but some thing.Heres the rotissorie him and I are building.
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/100_0127.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/100_0128.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/100_0129-Copy.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/100_0131.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/100_0134.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/100_0135.jpg

Great work there Dave !!!!!!:hurray:.

David F.

Great work there Dave !!!!!!:hurray:.

David F.
Thanks David,soon the fun starts....

Thanks David,soon the fun starts....

Have the 2 of you decided on a rear tire width yet????

David F.

We got a set of Hole Shot wheels with tires a buddy of mine took off his car because two weeks after the speed shop told him about the new style sold the same set to a guy he hangs with.He wasn't happy so he sold them to us for $1100.They have 14/32 ET Streets but the front tires are front runners and I think we are going to have to sell them.He also sold us a set of stock 70 seats for $600.

How much chassis work have you done what do you think of this sequence.Drop frame after taking some measurements to tub,have car soda blasted,put on rotissorie do front floor pans and put them in etch primer,put new back halved chassis back in car,cut old quarters for tubs to get a god pattern for the tubs,install tubs,put quarters on,finnsh roll bar and interior sheet metal.I have done a few unibody cars but never a full chassis car....

.....what do you think of this sequence.Drop frame after taking some measurements to tub,have car soda blasted,put on rotissorie do front floor pans and put them in etch primer,put new back halved chassis back in car,cut old quarters for tubs to get a god pattern for the tubs,install tubs,put quarters on,finnsh roll bar and interior sheet metal.I have done a few unibody cars but never a full chassis car....

Dave.....I think that's a good plan....be sure to take lot's of pictures.

David F.

We will....

Waiting........

We have the rottissorie finished and he painted it today.It is his first time behind the gun he seems kinda proud.This is after staying up all night texting and talking on the computer to his hreumm of girls.
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/100_0159.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/100_0157.jpg

Put that thing together.......

Dave, Take your time. Enjoy doing this with your son. You 2 will be cruisin around in a couple years and then that will be bada$$. I know from looking at your car it will be very nice.

Thanks Mike,hope we get it on the rottissorie this week end or at least close to it anyway.Heres a pic of the wifes new car....
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/100_0160.jpg

Thanks Mike,hope we get it on the rottissorie this week end or at least close to it anyway.Heres a pic of the wifes new car....
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/100_0160.jpg

And if you're a good boy and finish all your chores, she'll let you drive it ;) :D --- by the way - beautiful car!

Thanks Doug,I realy don't want to drive it because I am accident prone.

That color tone is sick!

[QUOTE=Blade;1271370]That color tone is sick![/QUOTE
Thanks Matt it was'nt the colorwe ordered though buy she loved the screw.

I just read my last post I am not sure what I was typing.Here is the rottissorie painted..If any body needs any assistance I can try and help building one, not that I am a pro but I feel it will work pretty well.
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/100_0172.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/100_0173.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/100_0174.jpg

[QUOTE=Blade;1271370]That color tone is sick![/QUOTE
Thanks Matt it was'nt the colorwe ordered though buy she loved the screw.


Tell her is she doesnt like it I will sure come and take it off her hands.

Hey Dave! How is your project with your son coming along? New pics?

My 3 boys are still young but looks like fun to be building one together.

Thanks for asking we are going to try and get going on some tomorrow.Will post as soon as we get some thing happening.

Sounds great looking forward to it.

Come on get on it!

My wife just reminded me my buddies Vette is in my garage,he was afaid the storms and tides that were coming would flood his garage.I guess tomorrow will be another day.

I want some updates also. I am steady working on the 69 protouring camaro.

Soon I hope.He now just asked to stay the night at a friends so tomorrow looks like a bust....I just noticed 100 posts and haven't started on the thing yet.His grandmom gave him an 05 Explorer and money to fix it it was my nephews and he went belly up on the loan she payed it off after it was wrecked and gave it to my son.I am thinking this might end up getting fixed first.He is in Vo-Tech for body and fender so he may be the one working on it.