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: This '68 worth it?


D-n-Tyke
Aug 26th, 08, 08:34 PM
So I have been looking for a 67-68 for a while now. I heard about this 68 thru a friend. Well I went and looked at it and it is a basket case. Guy started the project tore everything down and started on the body work and stopped. Body is very solid, only a couple of rust problems. Lower frt and rear of both quarter panels, lower sides of rear window and that is about it. Trunck is great, floor pans are great, rear shelf under window great. Other bad spots were already replaced with new metal. However aparently when he tore down the car he was not very orginized about storng parts so there is quite a bit of small stuff missing (hardly any of the hardware that held anything on is there. Front seats are gone (lost somehow?????) Front fenders and hood are gone, rad support and upper and lower front metal is there. Front and rear window broke and gone. The good part, some new parts, new door panels, carpet, dash pad, a-pilar pads, 18-circuit painless harness, front subframe clean and powdercoated, front disks added. Motor tranny included new 350 crate motor backed by a TH350 (however the case is cracked and no good). Looks like the car was an original California car (I am assuming due to the lack of rust on her). So now for the price, we are at $3200 I am not sure if I can get it any lower so figure $3200 is the number. What do you guys think?:confused:

kiwicamaro
Aug 26th, 08, 10:36 PM
This sounds just what I am looking for except I dont need the motor Trans or any of the interior, if you decide to pass on this one drop me a line I would be interested

Aaron67
Aug 26th, 08, 11:21 PM
Hard to say, but to me, it would need to have a clear title, decent wheels, a good rear axle, and the rest of the interior to be at least present (back seat, column, etc.) to be worth $3200.

Eric Kammerer
Aug 27th, 08, 05:43 AM
First, welcome to Team Camaro!

It is always best to include pics in these "what's it worth" questions, but we can just go with the old "if it is as you say" caveat..

Are you able to do much of the work to restore the car by yourself? If so, and the car is as solid and complete as you say, $3,200 isn't bad. If you have to pay someone to do most of the work, it might be a different case, as labor adds up quick and you could end up with another $30K to restore a car that's worth $15K.

Some things to consider are:

Is the car originally a V8 or L6 car? VIN on dash will have a 3rd digit of 3 for an L6, 4 for a V8. An original V8 car is worth a little more, and it's important that the title is present, clear, and that the body partial VINs (on the cowl top and under the heater blower opening) match the dash VIN and title.

Your goals for the car: Super nice, original type resto, or something to drive and have fun with? If you're not shooting for top of the line resto, then the car can be restored using repro sheetmetal (less expensive, but may require quite a bit of massaging to get it to fit right) and other repro parts. If you have to have GM metal and other GM parts, you can spend quite a bit of time and cash finding good used or NOS parts.

What kind of crate motor is it? If it is just a low power, Targetmaster-type small block then that's one thing. If it is a GM Performance Products (GMPP) small block, like a 350 HO or ZZ4, that's another.

The lack of fasteners isn't a huge problem; there is a company called AMK Products that makes many original style fasteners, and sells fairly complete kits for different parts of the car.

Daral
Aug 27th, 08, 06:20 AM
Welcome to TC. The nice thing about these cars is you can get just about anything you want or need to restore them. So don't worry too much about missing parts. Make sure the parts that are there are in good shape. If they are rusted or no longer functional, then the price should be adjusted accordingly.

skipdaddie
Aug 27th, 08, 08:33 AM
It sounds like a big project, but the price seems good.

Microgiant
Aug 27th, 08, 09:30 AM
Price is good. Mine was even more of a basket case with lots of stuff missing. I spent over $500 on all those missing fasteners alone. But if your looking I say go for it.

camaro_fever68
Aug 27th, 08, 10:40 AM
Price is good. Once you start a restoration, most of what's missing would be replaced anyway.

D-n-Tyke
Sep 2nd, 08, 01:06 AM
So did I get my moneys worth? Here are the first pictures of my newest project. I think it is going to be a little bit of a longer road to get her done then I really wanted to but, got to start somewhere. So finaly purchase price was $3000. I think I might have been able to get it a little less but I didn't realize the guy didn't believe me when I said I was going to take it out of his garage right then and there until I brought up my offer price and THEN he saw the trailer behind my truck. Oh well, think I still did pretty good.

Small list of highlights that came with the car. (small list because it is late and I haven't really full inventoried everything inside the car):

New Repo Deck Lid
New Rear Light Panel Metal
New in the box OER Door panels
New in the box OER Dash Pad
New in the box OER Carpet Kit
New in the box OER Rear Lights and Housings
New 18-Cuircuit Painless Wiring wiring harness
Newer 350 Crate motor
Front end rebuild with all new poly components
Front Subrame & A-arms fresh Powder Coat

Immediate down sides

Missing front fenders & Hood
Needs new passage door skin (skin already removed:mad:)
Missing Front and Rear glass

Guy did end up have a ton more parts that I thought he didn't have so that makes me feel a little better.

What do you think?

Here are her first pictures after getting her home.
http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo257/D-n-Tyke/DSC_7442.jpg
http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo257/D-n-Tyke/DSC_7444.jpg
http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo257/D-n-Tyke/DSC_7445.jpg

8ballracing
Sep 2nd, 08, 05:43 AM
You did well......

Add up the cost of the new parts that came with the deal sub-tract from what you paid and you will feel like you stole it..........The down sides can be upsides it all how you look at it or thru it.....new glass has no scratches or chips...there are no rotted fenders and rusted out bolts to deal with.......you can go with what ever hood floats your boat......installing a new door skin is both rewarding and allows for tweaking to help align panels.........seats usually need to be completly redone on project cars anyway......

Good luck with the resto and keep the pics coming......

skipdaddie
Sep 2nd, 08, 08:25 AM
I think you did very good for $3K. You should be able to have the car complete for around $17K assuming you can do everything but the paint.

keypilot
Sep 2nd, 08, 10:10 AM
you did good, you would spend that on a crate motor alone.

Microgiant
Sep 2nd, 08, 11:57 AM
If you dont think you got a good deal let me know and I will take it off your hands for 3k. :D

Ironman24
Sep 2nd, 08, 12:15 PM
I think it was a good deal. :thumbsup:
Now get working on it and post some pic's in a few weeks when your done :D
:beers:

jsouthco68camaro
Sep 2nd, 08, 07:40 PM
For 3k I would be all over that deal.... You did very well!

1st 67 SS/RS
Sep 3rd, 08, 05:10 AM
Good job, nice find.

ramblin67rs
Apr 20th, 09, 03:56 PM
Dude.....3K? No brainer. I see rust buckets go for $4500....
$1.5k for the interior +2k for the missing sheetmetal. $500 for fastners and $750 for the glass. and you have a great Camaro for $8k ....Any updates?

rsbecool
Apr 20th, 09, 05:19 PM
Good deal.

67z28
Apr 22nd, 09, 02:12 PM
Looks like a clean project

thorpe67RS
Apr 22nd, 09, 02:59 PM
How did this thread get dug back up? And yes, that was a steal for 3k.