Seriously. I love the thing, even if it weighs more than a freaking tank.

I think the design is dead-on. Inside and out. I love it.

IF it turns out to be the car I've read it to be (basically a CTS coupe for 2/3 the price)...

IF they are actually available for a reasonable price on the streets...

IF I like it as much after I see/ touch/ drive it as I do now...

I will buy a base V6/ 6 speed in 2011.

No way I'm going to be a first year Guinea Pig.

And buying a F*** Mustang is not an option for me. I will go without a vehicle before I own a F***. Being forced to drive a F150 at work is bad enough.

It will be a Camaro, or a import. First choice is a Vette, but I don't think I'll have enough pennies in the piggy bank to afford one when the time comes.

Anyone else dig this car? I don't understand the negativity on here about the new Camaro. Is the hatred coming from the old farts? I'm 26, and have been building and messing with Chevies since I could drive, and have owned a 69. I think it's incredible, at least in print.

I have a 69 and I like the new design just think it needs to be a 09 not a 10 41 yrs doesnt sound as good as 40 yrs apart so I think its a no go for me. My wife wants a Mustang instead...lol...just kidding...

I agree wait a couple years, the price gouging on the initial release is going to be incredible. Besides it takes them 1-2 years to work out the initial problems anyways and you will get more HP and options too!

I'm holding out for the convertible!

I have a 69 that I drive during the summer, I'm 61 years old and my wife wants a new Camaro about the middle of next year. Does that answer your question? :)

I like the car and your plan Bowtie. I'm thinking about an 11 or a used coupe that someone (Kevin?) trades in on a vert. I'd have one sooner but my wife wants another Hyundai (NOT!) and says she won't drive the new Camaro. Looking at her current ride at 10 years old I think that 's a good thing for me that she won't drive it.

Jeff

I might contemplate getting a vert depending upon pricing and available options after they have been out a couple of years.

I have zero interest in the car....and I'm only 42 if that qualifies as an old fart because I dont like the new camaro then I guess thats what I am

I have not talked in person to anyone who dislikes the new Camaro, of any age.

The negativity on this board was some of the first I've encountered, and to be honest it surprised me. I'm just interested to see where it's coming from.

No, it's not perfect. And to those who were expecting a more traditional straight line brawler, I can see where you may be disappointed.

Realistically though, I am going to treat the car as a DD and GT more than a race car, I already have my Nova and bikes for that. Three hundred horses and a six speed should be more than enough to get the job done, anyway.

Motor Trend had a good article on the Camaro in it's September issue.

GM appears to have gone upscale on the new car, the Zeta platform is supposed to be the cat's meow, and the direct injection six has my attention, too. And I am a V8 or nothing type of guy.

I've been considering everything from a Civic Si (not a ricer, hate the wing, GREAT car, not really my style, though), to a CTS, G37 or BMW 3-series coupe, to a Vette. I'd prefer not to spend that kind of coin, though. The new Camaro appears to be a viable alternative to these, and at a reasonable price point. I want/ need something that can cruise cross country at any speed (triple digits, anyone?) and get 30ish MPG while doing it.

One final IF:

The current state of affairs has dashed my hopes of seeing a LS7 powered 427 Camaro, but IF they build one, and it's cheaper than a Vette, I'm all in. It makes more sense to me to keep the big dog LS9 in the ZR1 and V, and throw a wet sump 427 in the Camaro. I would give my left testicle to walk into a dealership and buy a 427 Camaro.

I was one of those who screamed about the demise of the Camaro. Chevy has done their part, I will do mine if it lives up to its hype.

I'm a buyer. V6 'vert for the Mrs. and as for me, waiting a bit to see if we will get the Z/28.

I have zero interest in the car....and I'm only 42 if that qualifies as an old fart because I dont like the new camaro then I guess thats what I am

I will bet that it will grow on you! ;)

I don't "hate" it. I just don't like the design enough to buy one! I'm 47 BTW.

I don't "hate" it. I just don't like the design enough to buy one! I'm 47 BTW.

Have you seen one up close and personal?

30's will get a high HP option (higher then the ss) Like a z28 or LS9 powered.
Waiting to see what they offer. Additionally I want to see them on the road. I saw Bumbelbee @ a show but that was it

I will be waiting until the vert comes out to make a final decision but my gut says coupe. By then the HUD and other options will be available. I have a '67 and I'm 33 btw. I simply love the design - the pic circulating recently with the Camaro, Mustang and Challenger all together really finalized it for me, the Camaro looks the best hands down in my opinion.

I saw the rejected design on CNBC "Saving General Motors" last night. I liked it better. You can see it here:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/25907123/

[I'm holding out for the convertible!
Ditto for me on the vert. I'm spoiled with my 1st gen convertibles.

I will bet that it will grow on you! ;)

I dont know that it will. I think the design and concept was not well thought out.I've said this before on this forum but I'll say it again the car is based on a 69 retro....why? If your gonna retro something dont you start at the begining. My point is if you look at what Ford has done with the mustang you gotta say they've done everything right,they are the bar by which all retros are being guaged. When they went retro with the car in 1994 to celebrate the 40th anniversary,Car and Driver raved about how it blended old with new,I remember reading about it and they had side by side 65/94 cars to show the similarities although updated etc. Ford started with a retro 65 and have been steadily working forward in retro style with each 60's year taking about 3 production years...65 = 94,95,96 and so on. I think they are somewhere around 1969 right now and with the Shelby, Rousch etc additions they are a good looking,muscle car throw-back for sure....how bout that 427 version...geees! My basic point is,is where does GM go from here...a retro 70 model? I'm a little ticked as a 67 owner that they didnt start there and I would have done it up with the same option packages, SS ,SS/RS,z-28 etc,I would have even put a version of the wing windows on it, and steadily moved forward building the hype to the retro 69 model and by then had the bugs and the market figured out. Someone I think said it was based on the CTS chassis and vette motor etc, and thats just what they got in my opinion, a CTS coupe or a fat vette as far as style goes...just not my thing fellas

When I really look at the car Pat, I don't really think it resembles anything close to the '69 model aside from the inset grill design. As a matter of fact, the C piller and waist line are more 67 model than 69.

I need a 4 wheel drive vehicle (pick-up) to get me where I want to go for my pleasure activities - running off a mountain suspended under a wing - aka Hang gliding. Consequently a conventional daily driver just doesn't work for me. Besides, I don't like the general looks of the car.

When I want to have fun driving around town I don't want to do it in a car that is readily available at any auto dealership. Besides for most of us that live in/around big cities - how much fun is there in driving a car? The days of racing up and down on a 15 mile long mountain road 3 or 4 times a week are over - sure enjoyed it while it lasted.

I'm sure I qualify as an Old Fart - 56.

Meh, you can't please everybody - enjoy your Mustangs ;)

I think GM was smart not to go too retro with the thing. Lets face it, most people outside of this board would not be able to tell a 67, from a 68, from a 69, even if they were side by side.

I agree that the car channels the 69 (arguably the most popular Camaro ever), mostly because of the wide look the car has.

Do I prefer the 67 over the 69? Sure. Would I prefer a round headlight car? Sure, but I don't know how they would have pulled off the styling. If we are going for the most beautiful reincarnation, however, how about chanelling a 70 RS split bumper?

I don't remember people bitching about the looks of the 3rd or 4th gens, and they don't hold a candle to the new car, IMO.

The whole anniversary thing should have been done for 07, but I for one don't want to wait til 2017, so that is water under the bridge.

Yes, in heaven, I'm sure the new car could be had in COPO trim, with a 427, or 454 even, with all of the neat options available on the original. Here on earth, in this economy, with GM in the shape it's currently in, with the eco-nazi's and their propaganda working hard to tax or outlaw anything that's not a 50MPG hybrid, I'm just thankful that the car is actually going to see the light of day.

Had the car been further from release, or had Mopar nixed the Challenger, just a small turn of events basically, and we would probably never see the car released. I remember rumors that the Camaro might go front drive just a few years ago.

Perhaps I'm more grateful because I grew up around 3rd and 4th gen rattletraps instead of in the peak of the musclecar wars like my old man (and many of you lucky bastards) did? Maybe a trip around the block in a 3rd gen V6 would give you some perspective?

Maybe I'm too die-hard Chevy brand loyal and I just don't see that the car is a POS?

Now, if I could just buy a new 3500 with a Dana 60 up front, I could die a happy man...

EDIT: I didn't realize that Ford offered the 64 1/2 Mustang in a fastback. Oh that's right, they didn't. So I guess the new Mustang is junk. And I didn't realize the original Charger was a 4 door only. Oh, that's right, it wasn't. I guess they should have started with a 'Cuda or Superbee instead of the Charger and Challenger? Maybe they should have shoved new drivetrains into some dynacorn repop bodies and sold them as new? Forget the new ZR1, I want the C7 to be just like a '53, and instead of a Blue Flame inline six, they can use a trailblazer engine... Or maybe not...

I really dont get your EDIT: comments...The 64 1/2, that was the retro for the 94-96 models that were only offered in the coupe or vert body just like the original. The newest mustangs are based on the 69 model which was offered in the fastback. The Charger, was never marketed as a retro car and was going after a whole different demographic like the impala and Ford 500. The Challenger retro started with the first in a series on Challengers based on the 70 model which ran till 73 or 74,not a mopar guy,but thats exactly my point, I would have started with the first in a series of bodies,1st gen,2nd gen etc. I dont mean anybody any ill-will in your opinion, if you buy one...halleluiah, its just not a car I like or would buy.

Have you seen one up close and personal?


I've seen the silver concept and a bumblebee sort of mock-up car. I don't think the production version in person will sway me any, but you never know.
As far as the retro versus non-retro conversation goes, I really don't care. You either like it or, you don't. I like some retro designs (Mustang, Challenger, Ford GT) and others I don't (T-Bird, SSR, HHR, Prowler, PT Cruiser).

I don't think I'll be buying a new one. I am too iffy on what I think of the new design etc... I will wait and see the vert model in person and I'll decide then but 99% sure I won't be getting one so far. I would rather get a new Corvette...

Like it or hate it, I wish they would just start selling the damn things already. How freakin long does it take for them to build it.

I'll be buying one for sure.....Just don't know if I'll be getting the SS/RS or the LT/RS. But I've got a couple more months to make up my mind. Rob, I'd like for them to be selling right now too, but I've waited this long, a couple more months is no big deal...And big kudos to GM for sticking as close to the concept as possible.


Oh, btw....Mustang's current version is a watered down version of the concept Ford had at the auto shows. But until recently it's been the only pony car out there since 2003. So the General has a play a little catch up. The Challenger is really only going to appeal to Mopar peeps. I don't think it'll change any Ford or Chevy people over to it. I saw a new Challenger R/T in person and really didn't like it or think much of it. And way toooooo overpriced for what you get, or should I say what you don't/can't get in it.

I've only seen one Challenger so far. Zipped by me in opposite direction. Driver was standing on it. A black one. Looked good for the second I saw it. Been wanting to get up to one to see why everyone is complaining about the interior.
I really like the Challenger. Just not the price. I can wait to decide either Camaro or Challenger. I figure by that time the dealer mark ups will be gone by then.
I need to see both close up to decide.

Funny, Vegas is a new car town. I've seen just one so far. Wierd.

I'll probably test drive one. I like the drivetrain choices alot but the styling is...ok. I guess chevy forgot they made camaros from 70-02 when they reached into the past to style it.

It's taken this long just to get this one and we still have to wait til next spring to get them showing up in dealerships........imagine how long we'd have to wait if they took styling cues from 70-02?

Personally I hate it, and Im not an old fart at all [21].
I just really dont like the look of it, but looks are subjective.
I've seen one in person a few times [auto shows], but it never seems to draw a crowd like the Challenger concept. I have a feeling Dodge will outsell the Camaro, just from what Ive seen...
The new Challenger is pure sex.

Personally I hate it, and Im not an old fart at all [21].
I just really dont like the look of it, but looks are subjective.
I've seen one in person a few times [auto shows], but it never seems to draw a crowd like the Challenger concept. I have a feeling Dodge will outsell the Camaro, just from what Ive seen...
The new Challenger is pure sex.

Have you seen the new Camaro personally?

When they went retro with the car in 1994 to celebrate the 40th anniversary,Car and Driver raved about how it blended old with new,I remember reading about it and they had side by side 65/94 cars to show the similarities although updated etc. Ford started with a retro 65 and have been steadily working forward in retro style with each 60's year taking about 3 production years...65 = 94,95,96 and so on. I think they are somewhere around 1969 right now and with the Shelby, Rousch etc additions they are a good looking,muscle car throw-back for sure....

I see no retro '64-'65 resemblance in the '94 at all. http://www.yanktanks.co.uk/pcfiles/images6/1994fordmustang.jpg
http://www.shnack.com/history/pics/1964_Mustang_large.jpg

2004 was the Mustangs 40th anniversary and the new retro design came out in 2005 and was not based on the '64 version of the car...

I see no retro '64-'65 resemblance in the '94 at all. http://www.yanktanks.co.uk/pcfiles/images6/1994fordmustang.jpg
http://www.shnack.com/history/pics/1964_Mustang_large.jpg

2004 was the Mustangs 40th anniversary and the new retro design came out in 2005 and was not based on the '64 version of the car...

My fault on the 40th version the 94 was the 30th anniversary version and yes it was designed specifically as a 64-64 retro. the false rear "brake" duct behind the door,the center grill,three bar taillights turned opposite,etc. If you dont think that the print news of the time didnt feel it was retro, or that it launched all of that type car then look it up. All of those articles are online.My wife had a 95 when we got married and the inside has all kinds of memories of the 64-65 right down to the double loop dash and guage set up

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb291/yellow69RS/P1030295.jpg
Reminds me of my ex wife, she was sexy in the 70's but she got fat in the last 40 years.:D

Jeff

The local dealer let me put down a $500 deposit to be 1st in line to order an SS vert for the 2010 MY.

The local dealer let me put down a $500 deposit to be 1st in line to order an SS vert for the 2010 MY.


Is he going to let you pay MSRP or better?

Is he going to let you pay MSRP or better?He said, "Not over MSRP", which I figure isn't too bad (seeings how most dealers mark them up then give you back half to make you feel better) but I'll try to weasel it down some if I can. I know they (the dealer) aren't paying MSRP for it.

I'll buy used one in about 6 years. It's going to be a manual for sure

I have seen one in person , I was standing right next to it and it is so much cooler than in pictures.
If I had more money than I do now I would buy one , even the first year.