I have had a few 68's, some with walnut ashtrays and some with smooth black finish, but have never seen a pebble textured contured front black ash tray in a 68 Camaro.
Is this a 68 Camaro part or possibly from a Firebird?
http://i16.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/09/1e/57e2_1.JPG
http://i5.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/09/1e/3307_1.JPG

James,
Looks like a 67 and 68 standard Camaro interior ash tray to me

Ditto.

capt

I've never seen one that was smooth black. All the standards had the same finish as the dash trim plate. Pebble finish or woodgrain.

The ashtray in my May built 67 coupe has the black pebble finish, but it doesn't have the 'pouty' lip at the top like the one you you have pictured.

I've never seen one that was smooth black. All the standards had the same finish as the dash trim plate. Pebble finish or woodgrain.
I guess I have always had the walnut trim on my Camaros, never the pebble trim.
Here is the early black smooth ashtray that came with walnut trim.
http://i20.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/07/bb/3d8c_12.JPG
And the later walnut ashtray.
http://i3.ebayimg.com/05/i/001/09/31/1b67_1.JPG

There were actually three ashtrays used in 68.

Group 12.009 - Tray Assy, Ash Receiver

1968 Camaro with Standard Interior and without Z23 or D55 - 3919123 (Black, pebble grained) Used throughout production on standard interior cars with the pebble grained center dash panel.

1968 Camaro with Standard Interior and Z23 or D55, or Z87 Deluxe Interior - 3927460 (Black, Smooth) Used with the wood grained center dash panel until late February/early March 1968.

1968 Camaro with Standard Interior and Z23 or D55, or Z87 Deluxe Interior - 3921861 (Woodgrain) Used with the wood grained center dash panel after late February/early March 1968.

The actual dates are still being researched.

Ed

Ed, I knew there where 3 different ashtrays in 68, but the only pebble grain I have seen was a flat front, not contured. Must have been from a 67.
I know the walnut contured brings the most money, but I think the pebble grain contured may actually be more rare.

FWIW, mine is an early (11A) Z87, wood grained center but has the smooth black ashtray. Maybe not original?? Oh well, guess it don't matter much....certainly wont be buying a $500 wood grained one anytime soon:wacko:

My early 68 with deluxe interior has the black smoth surfaced ash tray with wood grain centre dash panel. Well documented original 68 car however the ash tray may have been replaced Who knows!

I'm sorry guys. I read my notes wrong!

The black pebble grained ashtray was used throughout production if you didn't have Z87, Z23 or D55.

The black smooth ashtray was used for all Z87, Z23 or D55 cars until late February/early March, 1968.

The woodgrained ashtray was used for all Z87, Z23 or D55 cars after late February/early March, 1968.

Here's what we have at the CRG:


For the Los Angeles plant, cars from 02C have the woodgrain ashtray, and most cars up to and including 01B have black. However, there are holes in the Los Angeles data between 01C and 02C, so there is still a 4 to 5 week period for which we can't be sure of the extent of overlap.

For the Norwood plant, cars from 03C have the woodgrain ashtray, although woodgrain does start occurring sporadically in 01C. However, as there are a number of cases where people have Obviously swapped in the wrong ashtray, which of these during this time period is real and which is not is uncertain.

Note that there is a bit of factory difference in that Los Angeles had a shorter overlap period of no more than 5 weeks, vs. 8 to 9 weeks at Norwood.

Summary:

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h52/bertfam/tray.jpg

Please remember that this is still preliminary data and should not be taken as a final determination. This is an ongoing CRG research report and we welcome additional input. Especially in the gray areas mentioned above. If you are positive your ashtray is original, please contact us.


Sorry for the confusion gents. I'll fix my original reply above.

Ed

I have had a few 68's, some with walnut ashtrays and some with smooth black finish, but have never seen a pebble textured contured front black ash tray in a 68 Camaro.
Is this a 68 Camaro part or possibly from a Firebird?
http://i16.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/09/1e/57e2_1.JPG
http://i5.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/09/1e/3307_1.JPG

I thought those pictures looked familiar!! I just won that ash tray last night! :thumbsup: My car is a 67 though. Hope it will work on my car! if not I'll have one for sale and the search continues!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140262991981&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:MOTORS:1123

I'm sorry guys. I read my notes wrong!

The black pebble grained ashtray was used throughout production if you didn't have Z87, Z23 or D55.

Ed



How does the console option (D55) affect the ashtray in the dash?
If you order D55 without Z23 or Z87, do you still get the pebble grain dash but with a smooth black (early) or woodgrain (late) ashtray, or is the walnut dash trim and the corresponding ashtray part of the console package?

I live in political correct, namby-pamby sissy Southern calif... I think they're actually trying to get ashtrays in old cars outlawd!

How does the console option (D55) affect the ashtray in the dash?

is the walnut dash trim and the corresponding ashtray part of the console package?

Yes, the walnut trim on the D55 console automatically gave you the walnut center dash trim. So did the Z23 "Special Interior" and the Z87 "Custom Interior" options. Therefore, if you got the walnut dash trim, you got the smooth black ashtray (early) or the walnut ashtray (late).

Ed

I guess my car has the Z23 option then, because I don't think it originally came with a console, and it has the standard interior. Thanks for the info Ed! Another secret revealed!

If you have the Z23 option, you will also have a stainless steel trim molding on the dash pad.

If you have the Z23 option, you will also have a stainless steel trim molding on the dash pad.

You also got the N30 Deluxe steering wheel and the bright pedal trim.

Ed

Looks like a decent deal there Armando. I dont recall seeing one like it.....thought the pebble grained trays were always flat.

Thanks for your insight Ed, guess I'll use the money for a set of tires instead of the walnut ash tray:D

Thanks for your insight Ed, guess I'll use the money for a set of tires instead of the walnut ash tray:D My 67 project came with a 68 walnut ashtray & dash trim panel. Maybe I can trade it with someone for some tires & the correct 67 parts... ;)

Thanks for the info although I'm still a little confused if it's the right ash tray or not :confused:

Armando, the one you got off of ebay is a 68 standard pebble grained ashtray, used without D55 (Console), Z23 (Interior Style Trim Group) or Z87 (Custom Deluxe Interior) options. Your car is a 67 so that's the incorrect ashtray, although I belive it will fit anyway.

Ed

Apologies for my incorrect statement above. I had never seen/heard of a smooth black ashtray. Learn something new everyday ;)

Armando, the one you got off of ebay is a 68 standard pebble grained ashtray, used without D55 (Console), Z23 (Interior Style Trim Group) or Z87 (Custom Deluxe Interior) options.

If your car DOES have any of the above options, then that's the wrong ashtray, and you would need the black smooth ashtray (early cars) or the woodgrained ashtray (late cars). Does you car have the black pebble grained center dash or the woodgrained center dash?

Ed

Ed,

My car actually doesn't have a center dash in it! (yet) ;) I did buy one for it (black pebble grain). Here's the de-code of my tag.

10A = Built the First week of October.
67-12637 = Custom Interior Coupe.
NOR = Built in Norwood Ohio.
732 = Custom Bright Blue Bucket Seats.
Z = (A50) Strato Bucket Seats (without headrests).
C-2 = Lower Color is Ermine White and the Vinyl Top Color is Black.
R = Interior paint is Bright Blue
Options:
1W = (A02) Tinted W/S only
2L = (M20) 4-speed floor shifter
2G = (D55) Console front compartment
3S = (Z23) Interior Decor group
3L = (Z22) Rally Sport Package
4P = (L48) SS 350
5Y = (A39) Belts All Deluxe

Armando, I re-read your original post and noted that you don't have a 68. You have a 67, so that ashtray is incorrect for your car.

You need one that looks like THIS (http://www.rickscamaros.com/product.asp?pf%5Fid=CDP%2D17&dept%5Fid=3360).

67's didn't have the "lip" that the 68's had.

I also edited my thread above.

Ed

Armando, I re-read your original post and noted that you don't have a 68. You have a 67, so that ashtray is incorrect for your car.

You need one that looks like THIS (http://www.rickscamaros.com/product.asp?pf%5Fid=CDP%2D17&dept%5Fid=3360).

67's didn't have the "lip" that the 68's had.

I also edited my thread above.

Ed

Thanks for the info! I'll wait to see what it looks like in my car before I decide to get the "correct" one. :beers:

Armando, there's one in the CLASSIFIEDS SECTION (http://www.camaros.net/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=29319&cat=8) section right now! Good price too.

Ed