: "Small" Solid Roller 327, Advice?
sik68 Sep 9th, 08, 12:47 PM It's time for me to do a cam swap, and I was leaning to the Comp XS274S solid flat tappet until I began reading about the annoying break-in procedures and greater chance of killing a lobe...all that and they make less power than a roller setup. I'm a "solid" type of guy, and really like the idea of the XR274R solid roller. I'm 24 and this is not my daily driver...I don't want to completely mismatch a cam with what I have, but I do like to make a 327 scream up high and have a solid middle.
XR274R
INT EXH
ADV: 274 280
0.050: 236 240
Lift: 0.564 0.570
LCA: 110
ICL: 106
My Combo
I have a +0.030 327 stock deck, stock pistons
200cc Aluminum Pro Toplines (too big I know, for an engine build that never happened)
64cc chambers
1.52 Pro Magnum Rockers
9.25 comp w/ 0.028 gaskets (close estimate)
Weiand Dual Plane manifold
Edelbrock 600cfm carb
Tremec TKO 5 speed
3.73 rear end
No power brakes
I know my existing combo could use some improvement...but what do you guys think of the XR274R cam? Thanks!! Power estimates?
onovakind67 Sep 9th, 08, 02:11 PM The XR274R in my Comp catalog has 0.377" and 0.381" lobe lift. In order to get the 0.639" valve lift you'd have to use a 1.7:1 rocker arm ratio. With a standard 1.5:1 ratio the lift will be a more reasonable .564"/.570".
It should run pretty well in a 327.
sik68 Sep 9th, 08, 02:15 PM The XR274R in my Comp catalog has 0.377" and 0.381" lobe lift. In order to get the 0.639" valve lift you'd have to use a 1.7:1 rocker arm ratio. With a standard 1.5:1 ratio the lift will be a more reasonable .564"/.570".
It should run pretty well in a 327.
Whoops, that was the BBC version! Makes much more sense now...
Thanks!
TJS69 Sep 9th, 08, 02:19 PM You should be all right with that cam, since you are running the Pro-Topline heads. If they were stock Double Humps or something, they probably wouldn't breath well enough for that cam.
ermine67 Sep 9th, 08, 02:31 PM I'm thinking that your cr is too low for that big cam, I may be wrong.:noway:
ace's68 Sep 9th, 08, 03:01 PM I'm thinking that your cr is too low for that big cam, I may be wrong.:noway:
I agree with you.
You can run this cam and see benefits, it's a roller (more power!) and will rev high, but don't change your intake to a single plane whatever you do, I bet you would have a hell of a time taking off from lights and idle quality would diminish. that is what is happening to me.
onovakind67 Sep 9th, 08, 03:22 PM I think it will work just fine with 3.73 gears and a 3.27 1st gear. My 327 with a 240°/240° solid roller had no trouble at all driving right away from a stoplight, made peak torque at about 4500 rpm and was well over 300#ft to the rear wheels at about 3000 rpm.
Melrose RS Sep 9th, 08, 07:21 PM FWIW, Jan 08 Super Chevy ran an article where they put the smallest THumpr roller in a 327 with 9.9:1 and ported 1.94's and made 399 lb-ft and 416 HP. It had less intake duration and less lift than the XR274R.
sik68 Sep 9th, 08, 08:58 PM I think it will work just fine with 3.73 gears and a 3.27 1st gear. My 327 with a 240°/240° solid roller had no trouble at all driving right away from a stoplight, made peak torque at about 4500 rpm and was well over 300#ft to the rear wheels at about 3000 rpm.
Oh man, I found that 2 barrel vs 4 barrel (on that 327) thread you wrote 3 years ago, and those numbers you posted are impressive! I know my combo will be shy of what your 327 put down, but it just shows what the often overlooked 327's can do. With a solid roller, it's almost too easy!
FWIW, Jan 08 Super Chevy ran an article where they put the smallest THumpr roller in a 327 with 9.9:1 and ported 1.94's and made 399 lb-ft and 416 HP. It had less intake duration and less lift than the XR274R.
Thanks for the tip! I am going to scour the site for that article.
Melrose RS Sep 10th, 08, 08:51 AM Oh man, I found that 2 barrel vs 4 barrel (on that 327) thread you wrote 3 years ago, and those numbers you posted are impressive! I know my combo will be shy of what your 327 put down, but it just shows what the often overlooked 327's can do. With a solid roller, it's almost too easy!
Thanks for the tip! I am going to scour the site for that article.
If you can't get it, let me know, I'll fax you a copy.
sik68 Sep 10th, 08, 09:09 AM Melrose, I couldn't find it...it would be great if you could fax it! You have PM
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