YAY! I'm finally getting to the bodywork phase!

I've started doing some patch repairs on the body of my 67 but I have a question. I now have a few bare metal areas that I want to make sure to primer right away. The problem is I'm not a painter. I don't know where my ride is going to end up for paint yet, and so I don't know what paint will be used.

Can someone tell me if there is a primer product easily available out there, in spray can or quart, that I can use that is safe to leave on and wont react to mismatched paint? Or will I have to completely strip off any product I use right before paint?

Just make sure you use a catalyzed primer and you should be OK.
I would suggest either DP-90 epoxy primer or a self etching primer.

Brian

YAY! I'm finally getting to the bodywork phase!

I've started doing some patch repairs on the body of my 67 but I have a question. I now have a few bare metal areas that I want to make sure to primer right away. The problem is I'm not a painter. I don't know where my ride is going to end up for paint yet, and so I don't know what paint will be used.

Can someone tell me if there is a primer product easily available out there, in spray can or quart, that I can use that is safe to leave on and wont react to mismatched paint? Or will I have to completely strip off any product I use right before paint?

I would use an EP primer and when you choose the paint I would use there epoxy for blocking.If you want a real straight job I would look into spray fill for blocking.

Just make sure you use a catalyzed primer and you should be OK.
I would suggest either DP-90 epoxy primer or a self etching primer.

Brian



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DP90...... X3 Expensive....but worth it!

Expensive but you have to remember that you get what you pay for...

WOW!

That's a lot of people all voting for the DP90. I was thinking of getting some of the SPI stuff but you all seem to have a lot of faith in DP90. I might just go that route then.

Thanks for the responses guys

Former PPG DPLF epoxy user, now SPI epoxy.
IMO the SPI epoxy makes the DP look stupid.

It holds up to the lacquer thinner test, it sands better and cost less.

I would definatly use a 2K urethane primer. It would be a good idea to spray any large areas of bare metal with a lite coat of etching primer first.

I've found a place locally that sells the PPG and 2K stuff but can't seem to find a place that carries SPI products. Any idea where to get this stuff easily and cheaply? Including the paint... just in case I decide to go that route. I've bought etching primer for the meantime to cover the bare areas until I decide what product to use. I was hoping to buy the BC/CC and a matching primer all at once, so I wanted to know about where to find SPI so I'm set when the time comes to decide.

Thanks

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=137322&highlight=SPI
It's in there about half a page down

Jeff

not to thread jack but do any of these primers come in a spray can,I am backhalfing my car right now and have some bare metal showing and need to cover it up and are any of these primers weld through and does weld through come in a spray can,Thanks

Whoa!.....We need to know more to advise you. All this advice so far has been off the mark IMHO.

First, what are you looking to do? Are you going to paint over existing paint or are you striping it to bare metal?

The first step to you getting a worth while spanswer is to give the proper info.

Tell us more and we'll tell you what you need to get.

CMQuickcoupe- 2K makes spray can primer that I've heard good things about. None of these primers I'm talking about should be used as weld through... although I'm not 100% sure on that... I would bet good money. Yes, weld through primer comes in a spray can and it seems to be realy easy to come by in several places. I'll swear by this stuff too. I've only tried a generic no name brand weld through but it made all the difference in the world for my welding... I get much better welds out of my harbor freight mig.

Idrisner- sorry, been talking to so many people about so many different things and putting info on my camaro blog in my sig that sometimes I forget most people have no clue as to what I'm doing and where I'm at. Basically, my 67 is in original laquer from the factory and has tons of little (and big) areas of cancer that I'm cutting out and patching. So I now have tons of bare metal areas. The original color was Granada Gold but I want to go with black. So sooner or later I'm going to strip this thing down to bare metal... yes by hand with a sander... I'm broke as can be. But for now I wanted to cover the bare areas with something so I don't get rust. Soon however (I hope!) I will strip the 67 and need to go over the car with another primer, paint and clear. I wanted to know what primer I can use in the meantime that I wont have to remove along with the rest of the lacquer and wont react badly to the new types of paints and clears. The lacquer is on amazingly well. Only the clear on top of it is peeling. I would love to just rough it up and shoot over it, but I think that would turn out to be a disaster 3-5 years down the line because I've heard that the new paints will eat at the base lacquer and ruin the paint job.

If you are just wanting to cover bare metal for now after a little patch job, just use what ever cheap rattle can stuff you can find.

Later, you can strip the car all at once, or a panel at a time. You then will need a good base primer. Some people like Etch, but I prefer Epoxy. PPG, Dupont, SPI....the list goes on. Use which ever you choose.

One thing to remember, Epoxy really is not meant to be sanded like a "blocking" Primer. It is primarily a base primer to build on. To block, get a good high build Urethane Primer. I personally use PPG's K-36, but all of it is pretty much the same for your purposes. Evercoat makes a pretty cost effective urethane, as does SPI.

For now, don't worry about it and just use the rattle can.

My local Painter Supply puts anything in a can. Just have to go in and order it. Takes a day or 2.

If you are just wanting to cover bare metal for now after a little patch job, just use what ever cheap rattle can stuff you can find.

Later, you can strip the car all at once, or a panel at a time. You then will need a good base primer. Some people like Etch, but I prefer Epoxy. PPG, Dupont, SPI....the list goes on. Use which ever you choose.

One thing to remember, Epoxy really is not meant to be sanded like a "blocking" Primer. It is primarily a base primer to build on. To block, get a good high build Urethane Primer. I personally use PPG's K-36, but all of it is pretty much the same for your purposes. Evercoat makes a pretty cost effective urethane, as does SPI.

For now, don't worry about it and just use the rattle can.


I went with the epoxy on my bare metal. K-36 for blocking.

I still hadn't decided on whether or not to spray the epoxy again to seal everything, then do my final blocking on that (400 to 600 grit). Right now I have everything blocked to 240. What do yall think?

btw not trying to hijack, just adding a little more info for you and I hopefully :)