Gonna miss that place. Went Tue night for the last time.
Greatest sports arena in the world. Too bad they have to tear it down, but the new stadium will be out of this world.

Nothing stands in the way of "progress" anymore. I remember when they tore down Riverfront Stadium in Cincinnati. I grew up with that stadium. The RCA Dome in Indy is slated to be imploded in the near future. I went by the new Lucas Oil Stadium on the way to/from Indy Bash this weekend. That is one huge building. It dominates the skyline. I imagine I'll live to see that imploded one day, too.

Good riddance. Wish they would have blown it up, auctions tickets to RSN to witness the event.

Doug while I enjoy watching the "evil empire" struggle, I realize it's because they are such a storied ball club, rich in talent over the past century. There is life after the old Yankee Stadium though I can tell you. In Michigan we felt the same way when they began plans to tear down Tiger Stadium. Many people got very sentimental and that's understandable. Some got down right violent and vocal, some tried to stand in the way of progress and called to save the old stadium. We had a police escort to remove home plate and take it to it's new home after the last game. In the last game the last Tiger hit was a grand slam onto the roof of right field. The same roof that Reggie cleared in the 70s all star game.

Flash forward to today, Comerica Park has been in around for 8 years now and it's a wonderful, wonderful new ball park. I recently looked at some of the old pictures of Tiger Stadium and the views from all the obstructed seats. Also the low second deck blocked the view of any ball hit higher than 30 feet or so, it was hard to keep track of what was going on sometimes. Now I see Tiger Stadium for what it was, a dirty, cramped, run down, old stadium that had served us for decades longer than we should have allowed it to. Despite all the negatives of the old stadium however there are still a flood of emotions that come back everytime I drive by it after leaving a Redwings game. It's just sitting there like an old friend. Last month I attended a game at the new ball park and drove by Tiger Stadium to see they had demolished the entire left field, center field and much of the third base side of the stadium. The center field flag pole however still stands flying the red, white and blue at the 440 foot mark that it always stood at, in the field of play as well. I stopped the car and got out. I stood at the wall of what was left of the right field seats and looked up at the light towers that Jackson and 12 others cleared in the 75 years the stadium stood. It was surreal to see it this way. I'd have rather not seen it half way through it's demo.

But I can tell you the new Yankee Stadium while it will meet resistance from old timers and nostalgia buffs, it will be a very exciting place to go and follow the empire as they try to get back on track next year. So there is life after the old comes down. Hopefully NY will not drag this out like Detroit did, sitting on it 8 years before they act. Should've come down immediately. The die hard NY fans will come around once they build a little history in the new stadium, I'm sure of that. And while it looks real doubtful today with the sad state the Tigers are in, if we ever figure out where to hide the pine tar on the mound again in the future maybe we'll be the ones routing the Yanks and sending them home early in the playoffs again, just like 06! But I'm not holding my breath, we've got to win two in a row before we get too cocky here in Detroit. Anytime you guys want Farnsworth or Sheffield back just let us know, we're ready to part with both anytime!

Good riddance. Wish they would have blown it up, auctions tickets to RSN to witness the event.


Your'e an idiot

Your'e an idiot

Glad you said it.

Maybe the new stadium will help them make the playoffs....... spending it on players hasn't worked as of late...;):D

Sean you're dead on. Money doesnt' buy championships like a lot of people accuse the Yankees and George of. They spent plenty of money in 06 and went on to declare themselves as the greatest lineup ever. Then the lowly Tigers embarrased them in the playoffs. The Tigers have also gone out and spent a lot of cash last year to put on paper what everyone speculated would equal a world series ring this year. They got pumped full of themselves and got off to one of the worst starts in history. Tonight they are only 1 or 2 games out of last place. I expect them to be dead last in their division by the time the dust settles.

Team chemistry and staying humble have an awful lot to do with it and the Yankees and Tigers both need more of this. More so with the Tigers as their skipper says chemistry isn't important. Look what the Yanks had from 96-2000, what a dynasty with 4 series rings in 5 years. Toss a record amount of cash at A-rod and since then, nothing.

Sean you're dead on. Money doesnt' buy championships like a lot of people accuse the Yankees and George of. They spent plenty of money in 06 and went on to declare themselves as the greatest lineup ever. Then the lowly Tigers embarrased them in the playoffs. The Tigers have also gone out and spent a lot of cash last year to put on paper what everyone speculated would equal a world series ring this year. They got pumped full of themselves and got off to one of the worst starts in history. Tonight they are only 1 or 2 games out of last place. I expect them to be dead last in their division by the time the dust settles.

Team chemistry and staying humble have an awful lot to do with it and the Yankees and Tigers both need more of this. More so with the Tigers as their skipper says chemistry isn't important. Look what the Yanks had from 96-2000, what a dynasty with 4 series rings in 5 years. Toss a record amount of cash at A-rod and since then, nothing.

Agreed 100%, I think thats one of the reason's people hate them, just a ridicules amount of cash spent on them and they have some real jackasses on the team (A-rod, and yes we still hate him in Seattle :D ), plus they have won a lot, everybody hates a winner. I fit into the first description of hater ;) .
I think Torre got the shaft myself, he gets blamed and cut loose for the losses recently, but could you imagine coaching that group of egos? No way I could. His career speaks for itself I figure.

Good riddance. Wish they would have blown it up, auctions tickets to RSN to witness the event.

x2 :yes:

;)

I have a lot of respect for Joe Torre, always have. We now have a Dodgers minor league affiliate in our town, they are in their second year. How knows maybe he'll come to town next season like Lasorda does on occasion? Lucked out and won a contest to job shadow the manager for a day this summer. Had a really great time spending the entire day at the stadium behind the scenes.

Back to Joe, the only issue I have with him is what he did to the Tigers Carlos Guillen in the all star game a few years back. I believe it was actually at our park in Detroit that the game was hosted. Guillen was the only player that Torre didn't get into the game. At the time Carlos was hitting .320 and was an excellent defensive shortstop. His numbers were good enough to start, but he never played. Guess who did? Yep Derek Jeter and he brought his then .230 batting average to the game with him. Jeter played 5 innings and Guillen batting almost a hundred points higher never gets in the game. Derek didn't deserve to be on that team let alone start. Worse yet was Giambi started at first and was hitting around .219 at the time. What a joke the all star game has become. The fans aren't deserving of the priviledge to vote for the line up.

Things haven't changed at the evil empire. I see they didn't make any effort to get Pudge into the lineup. For nothing else than to have his name etched in history. They topped this by taking Jeter out of shortstop with one out to go so he could get an ovation. Ah yes the egos of NY. I guess it really isn't about the team afterall. I remember a time when the Yankees said they don't wear the names on their jerseys because the individual wasn't as important as the team. Seems to have changed.

Never seen the stadium but obviously there is tons of history in it. It looked pretty cool from pictures. On a side note i feel the MLB will never be fair until theres a salary cap. Look at the good it did for all the other sports. The Pirates here in Pittsburgh are a total joke but ofcourse i still stand behind them because they are my home town team but lets face it, they will never be a good team again till theres a salary cap.

Reading the recent TSN article about the new YS, could be trouble for the lower-mid market teams. The revenue alone will exceed the payroll of most teams by far. Some estimates have it at $6-700M/yr.

I guess us fans of the lower tier teams have some solace in that the Yanks have poor front office management and a depleted farm system.

Alex there are a lot of good reasons to stand behind the Pirates. The team has integrity and stands for all things good. They were the first team to truly embrace all players regardless of race or ethnicity. Dodgers started it with Jackie R, but it was Pittsburgh in 1970 with Clemente and the others that really opened the doors for all ball players to compete. Unlike Boston, who 12 years after Jackie Robinson broke the barrier, was still an exclusively whites only team, the rest of the world had woken up well before Boston did. It's well known how the owner of those days felt about it.

Dave I found Hank Steinbrenner's comments today to be quite humorous. He was made about the Yankees missing the playoffs for the first time in 14 years. He said it wasn't fair to the Yankees because they had been put in the Eastern division when the league realigned itself years ago. He said if he were playing in the National league west with the Dodgers, (read this as Joe Torre), they'd be in first place. Without realizing it Steinbrenner admitted to the world today that the Yankees can't even compete in their own division, so somehow that's unfair? Try being a tigers fan for a season or two. Even a Tigers team with spending more money on salaries than anyone else is still only good for last place in the AL central. It's painfull in Detroit. Basically NY and Detroit both aren't very good teams. Keep paying Giambi 21,000,000 a season, make that 22,000,000 next season. That's a lot of dough for a seen better days player.

I am a White Sox fan and we went through that in 1990 when the Old Comiskey Park which was built in 1910 and the oldest park in the majors until that point was torn down. In 1991 the new park opened across the street. The Chicago Stadium (Madhouse on Madison where the Bulls & Blackhawks played) was torn down after 1992 (I believe it was the oldest Hockey arena and insanely loud in there). The United Center is a great place though. Very nice!...Then another stadium I loved Soldier Field gets blown up internally mini-implosion style, they keep the outside Greek Columns & Pillars and make the inside look like a fish bowl. Sorry but I liked the old Soldier Field better and I always will. The new Comiskey park since renamed US Cellular Field has been remodeled & renovated as it was outdated from day one. The place looks beautiful now, but I miss the old ball yard man. Those roof shot home runs were cool!! My son will never forget his first ever game in 2006. I saved the ticket stubs which showed 2005World Series Champion White Sox on it them. It was an interleague game against the Astors which the White Sox swept in the fall classic the year before. My son was hoping for a grand slam and he got it late in the game which propelled the team to victory in extra innings if I recall.

Here's a little baseball trivia for ya. Name the only 2 teams to have led their division wire to wire and then go on to sweep the World Series. One is the 1927 Yankees. The other is the 2005 Chicago White Sox. I will miss Yankee Stadium too. I always wanted to go there but never made it. The closest I got was standing outside Legends Field in Tampa, FL in 2004. The Yankees are full of rich history and tradition more than any other team. Even a White Sox fan like myself admit that. Good Luck telling that to a Cubs or Red Sox fan though.

BTW, aren't the Mets getting a new stadium in 2009 as well? or is that 2010?

Alex...Don't feel bad about the Pirates....Try living in Baltimore with the Orioles! I have lived in the area for about 10 years and the O's have been a basement team the whole time. Things will turn around when the owner sells the team to someone like Cal Ripken. It's pretty bad when you go to a game and people are wearing "Free the Birds" t-shirts.
I must say that Orioles Park at Camden Yards is one of the nicest parks I have ever been to.

Scott

Monday Night Football.....Ravens and Steelers! :hurray:

I'm an Oakland A's fan. We have one of the lowest payrolls, and we've been competetive pretty consistantly. Great farm club, and a good perspective on the game. The Yankees stadium might be missed, but I love when a trillion dollar a year team doesn't make the playoffs and you can hear the owner crying foul. Music to my ears.

Oakland A's tickets are as low a $8 a piece, sometimes lower. No elitist ball club here.


BTW, what happened to the salary cap in baseball? That was a joke.

Mets are also getting a new stadium next year. So are the Jets and Giants.

But nobody cares. Its all about "The Stadium".

I will miss it. I was fortunate to have been there as a kid before the major renovations. Left - center field was 463 ft. if I remember correctly! And the 3 monuments in the playing field! Went to an old timers game and saw the likes of Whitey Ford, Elston Howard, Phil Rizzuto, Yogi Berra and many others. When my Dad was a kid he saw Babe Ruth play there.

It is a great stadium. I wish they could have kept it going.

Gabriel if you get a chance you need to see the A's play in Tempe during spring training. I've really enjoyed the games I've attended at Spring training field. Great little stadium and when the big hurt steps up to the plate you're almost too close to the action. That guy is huge!

A side note to Yankee stadium. I noticed the other day in a picture of Babe Ruths last at bat there, the right field fence down the line was only 296. 296! Anyone can hit a ball that far. I used to joke that the line at the old Tiger stadium was 315, it's easy hitting a ball 315. No wonder so many Yankee greats hit so many home runs. Any batter would love to spend his career in a short fenced field like that.

South Side, it's looking like that rain out between the Sox and Tigers is going to matter? Twins took it to them. Maybe Sox will be playing for their season on Monday after all.

SY1, the White Sox absolutely imploded worse than Wall Street the past 10 games.... My brother in law, other Cubs fans I know and even the ESPN analysts said on September 8th, the day that Carlos Quentin punched his bat and broke his wrist, that the injury would cost the White Sox 2 games in the standings before the season is over, and may cost the Sox the division. I hope they are wrong, but I'm afraid they will be right. Losing Joe Crede and Jose Contreras also hurt. Even former Bears coach Mike Ditka hated playing in The Roller Dome (Minnesota). I recall one game against The Vikings where Ditka came out on roller skates before the game and the Vikings fans let him have it. Ditka hated that place and he still does...Speaking of deep outfields, Old Comiskey was 444 to CF if I recall correctly. I'll be going to the White Sox game Saturday night. A friend of mine who is a White Sox fan will be in Milwaukee attending the Cubs game w/ his wife who worships the Cubs....

Hey ESPN showed a guy actually peeling the paint off the foul pole at Yankee Stadium and putting it in his pocket. I hope there wasn't any paint from before 1978 left on that thing.......Since my White Sox are gonna be toast after tonight's collapse, I'll be rooting for the Angels to win it all. I picked them in the pre-season to win the whole thing. Go Angels! Congrats to the up & coming Rays too!!!

Oh by the way, A big congrats to Joe Torre & The Dodgers for winning the NL West. I bet the Steinbrenner family enjoyed watching Torre celebrate in LA. :p:p Old Joe can manage man!! Too bad George & his boys Hank & Hal could not see that.

So when are they gonna tear down Yankee Stadium & Shea stadium??

Southside NOBODY like playing in the Metrodome, except of course the Twins. That's one stadium that's long overdue to come down. Domed stadiums should never host baseball games. The field surface has also ended a few careers early and injured dozens of visiting teams players. Twins players adjusted well to it and win most of their games there.

Sox arent done yet. KC is a young team and been playing with confidence. They could force a game on Monday for the Sox and one game winner takes all on Tuesday with Twins would be in Chicago. I'd love to see that. I'm still hoping for a North-South Chicago series. Angels are awfully tough though. I don't think Boston is a threat, despite the hype. Papelbon has proven he's vunerable and Manny's gone, so people can pitch around Big Papi now. Rays are getting spanked by the Tigers the last two games, proves Detroit can play well when it doesn't count. Going to be an interesting weekend in MLB.

At the end of August I told everyone the Tigers would collapse and lose 90 games this season. They'll fall just a couple games short of that. I think for the month they are 7-17. The only reason I didn't say they'd lose 100 is it was mathmatically impossible. How do you go from picked to win it all by SI, to last place in the AL Central? Especially with the second highest team salary in baseball. I love that.

Enjoy the game Saturday night, hope they win. Ozzie held it together pretty well with the press after the Twins series I thought.

SY1 - You're right. Yankee stadium always had that short right field fence. Think about all the great home run hitters on the Yankees. Ruth, Mantle, Marris, Reggie, many others - all left handed hitters.

Joe I know most of these guys more often than not just crushed the ball, but they all hit their share of dingers that just barely got out. Imagine how all of baseballs record books would change if field dimensions had always been standard sizes. But then that's part of what makes baseball so interesting is the differences in the field. While I'm obviously not a fan of the Yanks, I do respect what they represent and the history. The picture in this weeks SI of Yogi standing behind home plate in his old pinstripes before the last game is a real emotional picture to me. If you love baseball and especially old time baseball you've got to see the picture. I'm seriously thinking it needs to be framed. I can only think of a couple baseball pics that sum up the love the players have/had of the game that come close to this, one was Ruth stopping to acknowledge the crowd prior to his final at bat at Yankee Stadium. The other was the Tigers Todd Jones after clinching the 06 AL pennant. Everyone had gone home the stadium seats were empty, the lights were still on and here was this closer at 41 still in his uniform sitting by himself on the mound trying to take in what he'd just accomplished and knowing he'd never get back there. He looked like a kid sitting there indian style on the mound not wanting it to end. Need more of that in pro sports.

Looking like neither the Twins nor Sox want to win the AL Central this weekend.

As a Twins fan, I'm not crazy about having to finish with KC, especially with them being on the tear they're on. 13 out of their last 15 or something like that? I'm also reminded of them sweeping the Tigers the last weekend of '06 to let the Twins win the division.

Twins are getting a new ballpark, but looks like the Vikes will still be in the Dome for a little while at least.

SY1 - You're right. Yankee stadium always had that short right field fence. Think about all the great home run hitters on the Yankees. Ruth, Mantle, Marris, Reggie, many others - all left handed hitters.

IIRC, it was a few feet shorter in RF in the old stadium.

As long as Fenway stands I'm happy

Mike I'm thinking Fenway is probably now one of the oldest stadiums left. With NY and Detroit both coming down, 85 and 75 year old stadiums. Boston has to have one of the oldest. Coolest scoreboard goes to Fenway though! As well as most unique with the green monster. I still like the new Busch Stadium in St. Louis. All the red seats, and the view of the arch in center field are pretty cool.

Looking like neither the Twins nor Sox want to win the AL Central this weekend.

As a Twins fan, I'm not crazy about having to finish with KC, especially with them being on the tear they're on. 13 out of their last 15 or something like that? I'm also reminded of them sweeping the Tigers the last weekend of '06 to let the Twins win the division.

Twins are getting a new ballpark, but looks like the Vikes will still be in the Dome for a little while at least.


I was at the White Sox game tonight! I stayed until the bitter end and stuck around for the post game fireworks show/fireworks night...I am pi$$ed off!! The Sox rightfully deserved to get their @$$es booed out of the stadium after KC won the last 2 nights at Minnny, and the ChiSox give up 23 runs to Cleveland, lose twice to The Tribe in Chi-town and now lost 5 in a row. You knew it was going to be a bad night: when in the bottom of the 2nd inning, the Final Score of KC 4, MIN 2 gets posted. The crowd roars. The Cleveland pitcher steps off the mound, collects himself and induced AJ Pierzynski to hit into a Double Play. After that it was all down hill. Cleveland scored 6 runs in the 5th. The Sox closed from 8-1 to 8-6 at the end of 8 innings...The bull pen imploded again in the 9th, and the Sox lost 12-6. And for you Konerko haters out there, the guy can still play!! I think my wife jinxed the Sox since she's a Cubs fan. There were 9 of us + my sister in law & her kids right behind us = 12....11 of the 12 are Sox fans...I was calling a buddy of mine frequently as he was in Milwaukee for the Cubs at Brewers game with his hard core Cubs fan wife & her friends. My buddy is a White Sox fan.

The Brew Crew from Milwaukee is now pooping in their pants just like the White Sox. The White Sox bull pen MEGA IMPLODED tonight. And Nick Swisher is still a hack and a wanna be Aaron Rowand. He's no Rowand! The Sox & Brewers have imploded down the stretch, injuries or no injuries you gotta win especially when the team you are chasing or is chasing you loses!!

As far as 2006 is concerned. I remember that year well. The White Sox were coming off a 2005 World Series Championship in sweeping the Astros. They won 90 games the following year & went home. The Tigers had to go 1-4 down the stretch to win the Central. Instead KC sweeps the Kitty Cats. The Tigers went 0-5. And the 2006 Twins became the first team ever in MLB history to win a division title without having sole possession of first place; until the final game of the final day of the regular season ended and the Twins were on top. And as we all know it's crossing the finish line before your opponent does is what matters most.

I understand your frustrations, but the ChiSox are one of my most hated teams :yes: "Put it on the board!! Yes!!" and "Good Guys" drive me nuts!!

I watched a lot of the game earlier, the Indians pen was imploding. I was okay at 8-1, but they came back. Had me worried. Just be glad that Cliff Lee isn't going tomorrow for Cleveland.

Sunday, and possibly Monday and Tuesday, should be interesting. Though I don't really see either team (whichever one makes it) making it out of the first round. Never know, though...

Yep Tigers lost the division on the last day to then lowly KC. Detroit always collapses in mid-August. Drives me nuts. It took until the last game of the year for our manager to finally figure out who his third baseman should be. This guy is amazing. Now he's saying Inge has the third base job in 09. Why wait 161 games to decide?

The only way the Sox won't be playing a make up game on Monday to decide their fate is a Sunday Twins victory combined with a Sox loss. The other three scenarios the Sox have to play Monday, then possibly a one game playoff Tuesday. Brewers, Mets, Sox and Twins none of these teams seem to want to make the playoffs right now. I'd also say the Rays look pretty bad this past week as well. although they "won" their division last night because someone else lost, not because they won. Kind of a hollow celebration. It's too bad for them because they've been an exciting team up until this week.

Yea when it went from 8-1 to 8-6 in the 8th inning after that Konerko homerun and when Alexei Ramirez reached on that error the crowd went nuts.........You know what's funny Dave?? If you can recall the movie major League I & Major League II The White Sox & Indians stunk. Then they both got to be powerhouses in the movie and have a huge rivalry. In the movie(s) they were competing for the AL Pennant. And they weren't in the same division in real life MLB at the time, since The White Sox were in the AL West & The Tribe in Al East. Then in 1994 both were placed in the AL Central and the rivalry was born. Until recently I hated the Indians more than any other team in the Central. You see I rooted for the Twins in 1987 & 1991 as the rivalry wasn't as fierce with The White Sox back then. Ok I'll admit I liked the Twins then, BUT NOT NOW!! I'm glad the Tigers $*cked all year long. In 2000 when the White Sox won the Central they used the fights the Tigers started (one of which still gets played on ESPN during their biggest baseball fights ever segments when they show it) as motivation. The ChiSox had one losing season this decade and that was last year.

I've always despised the Vikings and Mike Ditka hated them too....I'm probably one of the few Bears fans that hates the Vikings more than the Packers. I still have no love lost for the Old Minnesota North Stars especially when they had Dino Ciccarelli. North Stars vs Blackhawks was the biggest bloodbath in sports and it made Yankees Vs Red Sox look like 2 hamsters fighting each other. No disrespect to the Red Sox or Yankees fans but that old NHL rivalry was the best man, especially during the late 1980's & early 1990's...........You know what's weird, the other day I was talking to a buddy of mine about the Back To The Future II & III movies. He's a huge Cubs fan. I said hey? You recall the scene in there when the Cubs won the World Series in like 2011 or 2013 against some Florida team. He said yea I rememeber that. The sequels came out in 1986 or 1987. I said yep. The sports almanac that meat head guy Biff stole from Michael J Fox mentioned that. I also said wouldn't it be weird if the Cubs beat Tampa and how surreal would that be? Ye said yea go figure the movie Major League had the White Sox winning it all something like 15 years before they did and Back To The Future II would be like 20 years before the Cubs could and a decade+ before the Rays were even born...Hmm

As far as the Royals: They’ve won 13 of their last 15 games, including eight straight on the road. Their 18 victories in September are the most in the season’s final month since the 1985 World Series champions, and the current winning streak away from home is their longest since 1975........I just saw that online...I just hope it continues...Look out for the AL Central next year....Just glad to see the arrogant Tigers & Gary Sheffield get their butts handed to them in 2008. I bet the Yankess were glad to get rid of that clubhouse cancer "Shef"---- Now Go White Sox!!

Last but not least as far as the Blackhawks are concerned---It's very sad that it took the death of Blackhawks owner "Dollar" Bill Wirtz (Dollar as he was called due to his cheapness) to move this team from 1952 into 2008. His son Rocky is finally putting home games on TV and signing TV & Marketing agreements. You see Rocky's dad "Dollar" Bill said if he puts the home games on TV that is not loyal to the season ticket holders who pay money to see the game and therefore all home games should not be carried by any network, cable, satellite or free TV. Attendance drooped to 5,000 fans per game ion recent years. His ideas were all wrong as the Chicago Bears could go 4-12 or 5-11, the Cubs could go 66-96 and still sell out every game until the last week of the season when fans would stay home. Kudos to Rocky Wirtz. I may attend a Blackhawks game this year for the first time since 2001 as the Hakws have $*cked the last 10 years!

Man did the Yankees put a hurtin on Boston's pitching on Friday or what? I also read that Marian Rivera is gonna have Shoulder Surgery for the Yankees.....Hey Yankees fans how crazy was Yankee Stadium the final few games against the Orioles?

Man, I must say you're the best as far as random tangents and stream-of-conscience posts :)


You know what's funny Dave?? If you can recall the movie major League I & Major League II The White Sox & Indians stunk. Then they both got to be powerhouses in the movie and have a huge rivalry. In the movie(s) they were competing for the AL Pennant. And they weren't in the same division in real life MLB at the time, since The White Sox were in the AL West & The Tribe in Al East.

I don't recall the details from the movie(s), but during that time the East and West divison winners played for the AL pennant.

I like Ozzie pretty well, but will always hate the CHW (and Bears as well :D )

South side that's just too strange regarding the Hollywood looking forward stuff. Makes you wonder. Hey looks like you'll get one more chance to hate the Tigers Monday. Personally like to see the Sox win and play again on Tuesday. If you're really unlucky you'll get to see Sheffield hit number 500 in your park. Since you're no Shef fan, neither am I, that would be special. I can live with Shef better than the other option that was highly talked about picking up Bonds as DH in the spring. Leyland loves the guy, I'm sure he wanted it to happen. I would've turned off the Tigers for good if Bonds had come on board.

Remember 2006 and the "greatest lineup of all time"? That's what the Yankees had deemed themselves and they were a joke in the playoffs. I was glad that Detroit drew NY instead of the Twins that year. I don't think they could've beaten the Twins, but NY was a push over that year. They weren't even the greatest lineup in their division, don't know how full of yourself you have to be to tell anyone that'll listen you're the greatest of all time when you lose in the first round 3-1. The same thing happened in Detroit this spring. Everyone was ready to hand them the championship on paper prior to a pitch being thrown. They got full of themselves and played about as poorly as a team can play for the first two months. The remainder of the season wasn't much better. It's not unique to NY, a lot of money, a lot of huge egos, a coach that doesn't belive in team chemistry and bringing in a lot of veterans on the downside of their careers doesn't equate to a championship. NY has proven it and now Detroit joins them.

MLB is such a mess under Selig. NL got it right, seed 1 plays 4, seed 2 plays 3. But the AL has seeds 1 and 3 playing and seeds 2 and 4. How do they justify this? I don't want to hear them whine that Boston and the Rays can't play each other as they should being 2 and 3 seeds, just because they come from the same division. Prove you're the best team in your division before you move on. Need to be consistant in the match ups. But then this is the man that declared the all star team a tie, had Houston play home games in Milwaukee and has mishandled the steriod issues during his tenure.

I said early this year KC is the future of the AL central. They look good and they're young. They're not there yet, but you can see the improvement this year. Just think if we get a totally revamped pitching staff and Leyland plays our third baseman at third base, dump Shef and let Guillen DH, Twins and Sox stay solid and Cleveland gets a few breaks the AL central could be anyones. Hank Steinbrenner can quit whining and just be glad his Yanks aren't playing in the AL Central because they'd be dead last there the way they're playing this season. The Rays certainly don't impress me, they really struggled against the Tigers with most of our pitching out for the season to boot. If that's the best the AL East has then that's a weak division. Need more games outside our divisions like we used to have. Playing within the AL Central has handed Boston the wild card. If we played more games against the west and east the Sox and Twins both would be going to the playoffs and Boston would be home watching.

Good luck Monday. Soxs need to play like they can and not come out flat. If they play their game they should win.

The rules are set up so the first round matchups are not between two teams from the same division, so the seeding gets screwed up there sometimes. Why, I have no idea, just how it is.

I'm a Tigers fan tomorrow!!!

Well Sox survived an early scare and live to play another day. Heads are already rolling in Detroit and it's high time.

Dave thanks for the explanation on the seeding. I wish they wouldn't do this because I think you need to play to be the best out of your division if the seeding falls that way, but then MLB does a lot of things they can't really explain very well.

White Sox vs. Twins. One game says it all. Amazing that the Sox's were able to survive this. I'll be pulling for the pale hose ... but it's hard to not root for those twinkies. That is a team that never says die! Plus they have a lights out closer in Joe Nathan. Almost ... Mariano Riveria like ... Not quite ... But pretty darn good.


Oh ... And I'll miss the Old Yankee Stadium. I'm sure the new will be beautiful ... But I'll never be able to afford to go there. I'm glad my kids got to see THE Yankee Stadium.

Has for Hank Stienbrenner ... As a life long Yankee fan, I have to say that he makes hard to root for the Yanks. Whenever he opens his mouth, it's like diarrhea comes pouring out. He makes himself and the entire organization sound ignorant. He is an embarrasment to the team and really needs to just shut up.

Has for Hank Stienbrenner ... As a life long Yankee fan, I have to say that he makes hard to root for the Yanks. Whenever he opens his mouth, it's like diarrhea comes pouring out. He makes himself and the entire organization sound ignorant. He is an embarrasment to the team and really needs to just shut up.

Heard an analogy about Hank the other day, something along the lines of him being like a guy who reaches third on an error but thinks he hit a triple...

White Sox and Twins both have considerably better records at home than they do on the road. Identical actually (53-28, 35-46). I would feel a lot better if tomorrow's game was in the dome, but the coin flip didn't go their way.

My Dad took me to 1 game there. It was 1983 and I have never forgotten it. Atleast I will have that 1.Called him Sunday and thanked him for it.

US Celluar Field is gonna be crazy tonight. The house (stadium) will be a rockin' on Da South Side. Win or lose The Twins & White Sox are making every baseball analyst look like fools as they pretty much worshipped the jock strap of the Tigers & Indians all year long. :bow: The Royals are getting better every year and should be in the mix in 2009. :yes:

ESPN late last night said The White Sox are playing against history. Ten teams have tried to win 3 games in 3 days against 3 different teams. All previous 10 teams have failed. :eek: Hopefully The White Sox will be the first to break that streak. Go White Sox!

No Carlos Quentin, No Joe Crede ( both all stars this year) and no Jose Contreras (recent former all star). And the Team from Chi-town's South Side is fighting on for at least one more day and hopefully more. It's been a crazy year. :) Alexei Ramirez breaks the rookie record for Grand Slams by hitting his 4th yesterday.

As far as the wild card teams not being able to play each other in the first round if they are in the same division that also used to be the case in the NFL in 1977 when you had three division winners and one wild card and then later on in 1988 when you had three division winners and two wild cards. Even if the wild card barely got in and was clearly the 4th seed, they could not play the #1 see if they were in the same division. The NFL has since chaned the playoff format and scrapped that rule. Here is a link to the 1988 (January 1989 NFL playoffs) see the comments under Note: :wacko:


As far as the Yankees I thought the 2005 lineup was also supposed to be the greatest of all time. :p They have spent what? a little over $1.5 billion in payroll since 2000 and have yet to win a World Series since that time, while Boston has two of them and The White Sox one. I bet that sits well with the Steinbrenner's especially Boston's two. :p But either way. love 'em or hate 'em The Yankees are the benchmark for sports franchises. Yankee Stadium will be missed just like I missed Old Comiskey Park (1910 - 1990) when I was at The White Sox game on Saturday Night. But I'll trade those memories to celebrate another World Series Title with my son any day! Go Go White Sox!! :hurray:

Yankee ownership does need to shut up and just respect the game. All they want todo is put a winning team on the field. The stadium sells out every game and when they are on the road most teams sell out.
Money cant buy a championship, we know that. But it can sell every seat.
Next year will suck with the hight ticket prices

White Sox snuck in ... And Good for them! 1-0 and great game. I wonder how the Cubs fans feel about sharing the lime light with them?

Hat's off to Twins and their Organization. Another nice season.

Hat's off to Twins and their Organization. Another nice season.

Before the season started, I figured they'd be fighting for 3rd in the division. Many young unkown players. There's always next year....

Before the season started, I figured they'd be fighting for 3rd in the division. Many young unkown players. There's always next year....

Hard to count the Twins out of anything with Ron Gardenhire(sp) at the helm. I use to think Tom Kelly (old Twins Manager) was great skipper ... But Gardenhire knows how to manage, that's for sure.

... There's always next year ... With him there, that young talent and a healthy Francisco Liriano for the full year, I'd bet they will be battling for the division again.

Lets go White Sox!! What a game tonight!! I just got back from the White Sox game! My best friend that I've known since I was 4 years old and my 3rd grade son went with! 1-0 game just like game 4 of the 2005 World Series won by The South Siders in a sweep. US Cellular was electric tonight. Everyone dressed in black. WSCR 670 AM The Score Radio said it looked like a Raiders game aka Raider Nation back when the Raiders were good and very intimidating. John Danks goes 8 innings, Ken Griffey Jr's throw to AJ Pierzynski in the 5th for the out at home. Jim Thome's 461 ft HR in the 7th. Brian Anderson diving catch for the final out to end the game with Bobby Jenks getting the save...UN-FREAKIN-BELIEVABLE! The place went absolutely crazy!! It was the first time the Chi-Sox had a clinching win of any kind at home since Bo Jackson's home run in 1993 to clinch the division.

The White Sox defied MLB history. Ten teams have tried to win 3 games in 3 days vs 3 different teams to make the post-season. All previous 10 have failed until tonight. The White Sox broke through.....The Sox also had 4 consecutive pitchers picth on 3 days rest as well. The atmosphere outside the park was great. And unlike the North Side baseball team our fans don't get arrested when our team wins.

This 2008 White Sox team was picked to finish 4th in the AL Central and go 77-85 or 70-92 depending on which analyst you listened to. Win or lose to Tampa The South Side pride comes through tonight!!

If my buddy Pete reads this, I hope you enjoyed the game as much as I did buddy! That's for having some fun w/ Lil Gooney and your truly. It was great to see your boy Nick Swisher run out to left field with the champagne bottles & party w/ the fans and thank them for their support!!! The "Blackout" was a great marketing idea and the place went nuts when the song "Blackout" by The Scorpions was played as the playoff clinching party played on inside the stadium....Nothing like havin a hot dog & fries outside the park after that win. The old neighborhood is changing too..Lots of yuppie like stuff has gone up the last few months/years....

Last but not least, I want to tip my cap to The Minnesota Twins and their fans. No one expected The Twins or The White Sox to be duking it in a 163rd game tie-breaker aka play in game. The Twins played hard all year long. The analysts laughed at them for letting Tori Hunter & Johan Santana go. Ram Air Dave, you guys have nothing to be ashamed of. Your team played hard & well and has alot to be proud of. To come so far w/ a young team, limited payroll is amazing. I congratulate you guys on a good season. Thank God the White Sox won that coin toss 4 weeks ago which decided where this game would be played.

What a game!!! 1-0 :hurray:

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Mike I'm thinking Fenway is probably now one of the oldest stadiums left. With NY and Detroit both coming down, 85 and 75 year old stadiums. Boston has to have one of the oldest. Coolest scoreboard goes to Fenway though! As well as most unique with the green monster. I still like the new Busch Stadium in St. Louis. All the red seats, and the view of the arch in center field are pretty cool.

Fenway was built in 1911, 12 years before Yankee Stadium even. It has been the oldest park for quite a while now and since ownership committed to renovating vs rebuild a few years ago its stands to remain the oldest for the foreseeable future.

LOVE Fenway.

So along the same line - its sad to see Yankee Stadium go. The way things are now days, organizations just wont be keeping stadiums for 80 years. Its sad because one of baseballs core attractions is its nostalgia, and they're demolishing that a little bit more every day.