Hey guys.
I know this has been discussed here before but what is the more popular power rack & pinion conversion for a 69 Camaro?

One that can be installed with not too many modifications needed.

Thanks in advanced!:thumbsup:

MBHD

I have the "Steeroids" set up sold by Speed Direct on one of my 69'S and it is a VERY high quality system. It is a direct bolt on and installed without any problems. I have been driving the car for about 3 years with it on and it works perfect. HUGE improvement over stock steering. Steering shaft also went directly on with Hooker- comp headers.

If you visit either Pro-touring.com or Lateral-g.net (sites concerned with, among other things, making cars handle well), their extremely consistent advice is to upgrade the stock steering box with either a third generation IROC box, or a unit from, for example, AGR, DSE or Lee Engineering rather than use a bolt in rack conversion. I've not used a bolt in rack and pinion conversion myself, but have read that they tend to have bumpsteer issues. I have used the IROC box and find it to be precise with pretty decent feedback.

Thanks guys.


I really need to get the stock box out of the way,so I am going w/power rack & pinion.

MBHD

From what I have read they all suck but apparently Unisteer sucks the least. Steeroids has admitted to "slight" bumpsteer while the others claim to have none. I'd take those claims with a grain of salt since bumpsteer is a common complaint...

Don

From what I have read they all suck but apparently Unisteer sucks the least. Steeroids has admitted to "slight" bumpsteer while the others claim to have none. I'd take those claims with a grain of salt since bumpsteer is a common complaint...

Don

I thought the "stock Camaro suspension has bump steer????

Does the rack & pinion make more , same , or less bump steer than the stock set-up?

Also on the Steroids system,it comes w/the hoses & steering shafts & couplings?
In other words,nothing else is needed to purchase?
Thanks
MBHD:beers:

Issues have been reported, things like the rack hangs down below the sub and can hit the pavement when you bottom out. Very high steering shaft joint angles, reports of having to grind more clearance on the steering joints to make them rotate without binding, lack of full steering turn angle to the left, steering shaft interference with BB headers, having to remove the rack to pull the engine, this was on a big block.

Unisteer provides outer steering arms which "should" reduce bumpsteer and lack of turn angle issues.

David

Some info on the Steroid system from an auction on Ebay kinda concerns me,because I do plan on taking it to a track & will possibly get the front tires off of the ground.
After all ,I do want to get maximun weight transfer & if I limit the travel of the control arms I might not get maximum weight transfer?
What are your opinions on this guys?
Thanks
MBHD
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&viewitem=&item=280268257531

" Please note: If you are considering putting this kit on a drag car that is pulling the front end completely off the ground, you will want to have something to limit your suspension so that it does not drop completely. If the suspension can drop all the way down, you will experience some toe issues when it first lands

Bump :-)
Mbhd

My interpretation. At full droop the Steeroids unit has toe out, if you limit the travel you limit the toe out. If you have the power to completely pull the wheels off the ground limiting the droop just makes the wheels lift off the ground sooner, doesn't change the amount of weight transfer.

Jeff

I have installed a Unisteer partially installed in my car. I haven't driven it yet since the car is a long ways away from done. The install of the rack and steering arms was really straight forward and easy. I have taken the car to install the steering shaft since I don't have the right tools to cut and drill the shaft to make it work.

I will say the Unisteer customer service is excellent. I had bought a two U-joint shaft kit back when I bought the system in late 2005. Well a deployment overseas, a move, and its almost 3 years later. I finally got back to working on the car and my shop discovered the 2 U-joint kit has two sharp of an angle. I called Unisteer and the sales rep is taking back the 2 U-joint kit in exchange for the 3 U-joint kit. He didn't have too since their policy is to only take parts back for 90 days unless there are warranty issues.

So if customer service is a big deal (it is for me) then I would recommend Unisteer. The quality of their parts seems top notch to me as well. However, when you buy the R&P kit from them it doesn't include the steering shaft kit or their coupler (think rag joint). You have to order them separate so while the Unisteer kit looks a little cheap than the others things add up. They are still better priced than others but not as much as you think. Hope this helps.

Thanks again guys.

I have another concern being,,,,,how low does the rack hang down below the subframe?
My car is lower than stock.

MBHD

I made a sticky out of this thread, it talks about a Unisteer install. It appears the Unisteer is one of the better racks.
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=102426

That sticky seems like they did not have much good things to say about Unisteer????

I would like to know if most all of the rack & pinions hang down low,or are some better than others?
Thanks
MBHD

My uni steer rack doesn't hang down at all. It is pretty much level with the crossmember of the sub-frame. That was one of the reasons I chose it over the Flaming River unit. I have a global west front suspension which, when I get everything back together is supposed to lower the front about 1.5-2 inches. I do not think the R&P unit will cause any clearance issues. Headers on the other hand might....

Ok guys,
I am debating over these two racks,,,the Unisteer & the Steroids rack.

Let me hear what you guys think the pros & cons are for both even if you are biassed torwards one over the other,just explain why.

Thanks you guys! :thumbsup:

MBHD

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