: Are the front C4 rotors the same diameter as LS1 front rotors?
1320King Sep 26th, 08, 06:02 PM I can get a set of front rotors,calipers and spindles from a 95 z-28 for $50 obo and I am getting ready to go get them.
But all I wanna I know is are the front discs from a C4 Camaro the same diameter as the LS1 Camaros? Are both C4 and LSI 13 inch in diameter?
I want to swap to the largest ones that I can get.
DjD Sep 26th, 08, 06:43 PM What are you planning to use them on? For a 1st gen you want the LS1 '98 and up Camaro parts for the front, you don't use the spindles though. For the rear you want the '97 and older Camaro parts.
The LS1 front rotors are 11.92" where the LT1 ('93-'97) are 10.94", C4 are 13" and C5 are 12.8".
novaderrik Sep 26th, 08, 06:48 PM there were also 12" C4 front rotors, but they are only about 3/4" thick.
that's what i had on my Nova.
Tommy69Z Sep 26th, 08, 07:22 PM So the 98 + rear discs will not work???
1320King Sep 26th, 08, 08:09 PM What are you planning to use them on? For a 1st gen you want the LS1 '98 and up Camaro parts for the front, you don't use the spindles though. For the rear you want the '97 and older Camaro parts.
The LS1 front rotors are 11.92" where the LT1 ('93-'97) are 10.94", C4 are 13" and C5 are 12.8".
So...only the C4 & C5 Corvettes had the 13 inch rotors? Could I use the C4 Corvette rotor with the 95 Camaro Z28 calipers???
I am trying to figure out a cheap big brake setup for my 69 Camaro.
pdq67 Sep 26th, 08, 08:35 PM Please do a search for my "pdqCB" set-up, both front and rear!
13" fronts w/ big single piston calipers on forged spindles and 11.75" rears w/ Cad Seville e-brake calipers on my 12-bolt!
pdq67
1320King Sep 26th, 08, 09:08 PM Please do a search for my "pdqCB" set-up, both front and rear!
13" fronts w/ big single piston calipers on forged spindles and 11.75" rears w/ Cad Seville e-brake calipers on my 12-bolt!
pdq67
No offense pdq67 but I could not find a thing other than your post here about the "pdq67 setup".... I even looked in the disc brake modification stickie and it wasnt listed there either. Could you post the link to your post that describes your setup???
From what car did you get the 13 inch fronts and 11.75 rears?
However there was a sticky for Torkers big brake setup that says the C4 Camaros did come with a 12.8 rotor as it was the J55 option.
DjD Sep 27th, 08, 12:27 PM Here's a bit of info Pozzi put together, you will find some good info for a conversion although I didn't find anything on brackets for '95 calipers...
http://www.pozziracing.com/12_corvette_brakes_on_fgen.htm
In the interest of safety when buying used brake parts. Used calipers make great cores for remanufactured replacements. reman calipers might actually have higher core charges than the new calipers. If the core charge is $50 each a used set cheap off ebay can save you some bucks. If you can rebuild a caliper a used one may be a good option. You don't really want to go to the trouble of putting together an upgrade just to have parts fail. Used rotors can be turned if they are not beyond the safe use limits already. You run the risk of turned rotors warping early on and often end up being replaced. New can be fairly inexpensive, check www.rockauto.com for pricing. Check the brake article we have in the tech ref area, it will get you familiar with all the parts needed.
http://www.camaros.net/techref/articles/ftecref012.html
BPOS Sep 27th, 08, 01:01 PM Could I use the C4 Corvette rotor with the 95 Camaro Z28 calipers???
I am trying to figure out a cheap big brake setup for my 69 Camaro.
I think you could do that if the C4 13" rotor thickness is compatible with the 95 z caliper, but you'd probably have to fabricate your own caliper mount brackets. What I did was use C-4 13" rotors with C5 calipers. There are brackets available for this setup. I got mine from SpeedTech. www.touring-classics.com makes this conversion as a kit - they might be willing to sell you just the brackets.
pdq's setup might work in theory, but it seems he hasn't actually driven the car for years. :)
novaderrik Sep 27th, 08, 09:11 PM I think you could do that if the C4 13" rotor thickness is compatible with the 95 z caliper, but you'd probably have to fabricate your own caliper mount brackets. What I did was use C-4 13" rotors with C5 calipers. There are brackets available for this setup. I got mine from SpeedTech. www.touring-classics.com makes this conversion as a kit - they might be willing to sell you just the brackets.
pdq's setup might work in theory, but it seems he hasn't actually driven the car for years. :)
when i first joined this site, i think PDQ's car had been off the road for a number of years.. and i don't think it's moved under it's own power since..
1320King Sep 27th, 08, 10:01 PM when i first joined this site, i think PDQ's car had been off the road for a number of years.. and i don't think it's moved under it's own power since..
So basically nobody else knows about his secret disc brake recipe but him?:confused:
pdq67 Sep 28th, 08, 08:54 AM Here are the names of the two guys that helped me by making more professional caliper brackets for copies of my front template.
Brian below made my fronts. They fit the big, single piston calipers to 1988 ‘Vette 13” front rotors to either forged spindle using either drum hubs, two-piece hubs w/o rotors or one-piece cast rotor hubs with the rotor machined off and shim the brackets to the spindles as needed at the steering arm bolts. If you use 1969 calipers, you will need to remove about .050” from each pads wear surface and if you use the ¼” wider jaw, Van calipers, you will need to add a spacer behind the pad on the piston side. I just riveted on an old pad backing plate for my spacers.
Brian Lumley, 2240 Cypress Point Drive West, Clearwater, FL 33763
And David, (Doug10) on the ebay motors made the rears. They fit 1980 Cad. Seville e-brake calipers to 1989, 11.75” Camaro rear rotors on 10 and 12 bolt rearends. Same thing here with the inner pads as far as shimming goes!
David Levesque, Steel Tech Solutions Inc., PO Box 1101, Marion IL 62959
The shimming accounts for the rotors being thinner than the stock applications is all in the case of the Van and Cad. calipers.
Again, the 1969 big single piston Camaro caliper jaw with stock pads is narrower than the ‘Vette’s rotor, (rotor thicknesses are 1.000” for the Camaro and 1.100” thick for the ‘Vette), so about .050” of pad wear stock has to be removed/sanded off each pad. Or use shims and the ¼” wider jawed Van calipers…… My rims are Ford Pony car "Bullitt", 17" x 8", and I had Mosers drill and tap everything for the 4.5" Ford bolt spacing and I am now using 1/2" studs and bolts for lugs!
I don't have a rear template, but it is pretty straight forward once you see the stock Cad. Seville rear caliper brackets and realize they just need to have everything at the axle hole moved 5/8" farther away from the caliper mount bolts is all...And again shim the bolts as needed. Everything is mounted, front & rear), on my 12-bolt car now.
I still have my first crude, hand carved front pair on the shelf as well as my unfinished, modified Seville rear brackets in a box up on the shelf in my garage. I used my small bench mounted drill press and several 1/8” bits to carve them out of 5/16" thick plate steel along w/ my trusty 4.5” HFT angle grinder! I just drilled a line of holes and ground between them until I got them to the shape I wanted! Crude, but works fine if you take your time.
And right, Nova, my car will be on the road next summer! Gotta get it on the road before I die!
pdq67
PS., 1320King, did you search the Archives? I've posted this stuff I don't know how many times on both T/C Boards and have sent out, FOR FREE, many copies of my front caliper bracket template!
You want a template of my front caliper bracket, then just PM me your full name and address and I will drop one in the mail to you asap. FREE!! Be glad to..
68 TT Sep 29th, 08, 02:14 PM I can get a set of front rotors,calipers and spindles from a 95 z-28 for $50 obo and I am getting ready to go get them.
The 95 Z/28 brakes are only 10.5" rotors and single piston iron calipers in the front. They are not the 12" rotors and aluminum dual piston calipers of the 98-up F-body.
Don't waste your money on them.
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