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Bowtie707 Oct 15th, 08, 07:51 PM Hi Everybody I Have A Question For Everyone That Has A 67 And 68. My Car Is A 67 And I Wanted To Know How Is It That You Stop The Gas From Leaking From The Filler Neck When Filling Your Car Up? Is There Some Kind Of Tequnique That I Have To Use To Stop The Gas From Gushing Out. I Want To Know Because This Tends To Happend Everytime I Have To Fill The Car Up. I Was Thinking That I Might Be The Filler Neck That Needs Replacing. I Live In CA So I Dont Know If There's A Difference In The Gas Pump Nozzles From Any Other State.
Thanks In Advance
04prox2 Oct 15th, 08, 08:05 PM Mine does the same thing, when gas pours all over the ground I know it's full.
2x67rs/ss Oct 15th, 08, 08:11 PM Common problem do a search and you will find it mentioned in a few other posts. Just dont fill it all the way or go very slow. And yes Cali. has different pump handles than most. We dont have the pain in the but vent covers on ours here in KC area. It makes it a little easier to tell when its getting close.
edhjohnb Oct 15th, 08, 08:21 PM Hi Everybody I Have A Question For Everyone That Has A 67 And 68. My Car Is A 67 And I Wanted To Know How Is It That You Stop The Gas From Leaking From The Filler Neck When Filling Your Car Up? Is There Some Kind Of Tequnique That I Have To Use To Stop The Gas From Gushing Out. I Want To Know Because This Tends To Happend Everytime I Have To Fill The Car Up.
I am in California and have a 67 RS that does the exact same thing. It's not just when the tank starts to reach capacity, it's while I'm filling it up...the only solution I've found is to go very, very slow when filling. I was thinking that the design of the fuel neck filler (40+ years old) must not be able to handle these newer, faster pumps. I have no other explanation, because I've got a new tank and a new fuel neck filler. Thoughts?
DjD Oct 15th, 08, 09:09 PM There are a lot of 1st gen owners having this problem and the '69 with the filler behind the plate should be the worst of the 3 years. Nova's are the same as the '69 Camaro behind the plate. Now before everyone takes this wrong I just want everyone to have the same happy experience I have at the pumps. Mind you also I too had issues with filling 1st gens but it was back in the late 70's.
Before you do anything else make sure there is nothing down in your fill tube, those coils to stop siphoning were real popular during the gas rationing days. The first time I filled the Nova it gave me fits and on inspection I found about 20 feet of wire coiled in the filler neck...
Ok now if ya still have problems this is the part I don't want taken wrong. My wife can't fill the Nova without it spilling out or without shutting the pump off and starting over a couple times. Since extracting the wire from the filler neck I have not had a single problem. There is a way to do this without problems but it means you have to interact with the hose and filler the entire time. It's also an audible thing.
With todays nozzles and short hoses start by parking close enough to the pump. Have the nozzle in one hand ready to insert into the filler neck, with your other hand, arm extended pull the hose tight from the pump. This takes all the pressure off the nozzle. Now insert the nozzle into the filler neck so the nozzle follows the curve of the neck. I'll look for the picture I drew after I finish this post. Apply a slight presure againt the nozzle to keep it in place. Start pumping, you can set the auto fill clip but don't let go of the nozzle. As the tank fills the noise the fuel makes going into the tank changes. You can hear when it is getting fuller. Release the auto fill early, don't rely on the auto fill clip to let go for you. It's best not to top off but once you get use to the filling sound, you'll know if you can add a bit more after the first click off...
I'll be right back with a link to the thread with the drawing...
DjD Oct 15th, 08, 09:12 PM Ok, here's the thread with the picture and there is some good info from guys that don't have the problem any longer... Hope this helps. :beers:
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=140409&highlight=filler+neck
2x67rs/ss Oct 15th, 08, 09:15 PM Here are a couple threads I found as well.
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=143478&highlight=gas+filler
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=140409&highlight=gas+filler
Bowtie707 Oct 15th, 08, 10:46 PM It's not just when the tank starts to reach capacity, it's while I'm filling it up...the only solution I've found is to go very, very slow when filling. I was thinking that the design of the fuel neck filler (40+ years old) must not be able to handle these newer, faster pumps. I have no other explanation, because I've got a new tank and a new fuel neck filler. Thoughts?
Thats Exactly What Happens I Guess Theres No Solution To It Doing This Then. Its Just Starting To Become A Real Pain And I Was Starting To Think That It Was Something To Do With The Filler Neck. Well Thanks Everyone For Your Help I Guess That Ill Have To Deal With It Then. I Guess Thats How It Is When You Have A 40 Yr Old Car That You Love So Much Lol.
class67 Oct 15th, 08, 10:47 PM honestly, I just keep an ear open when filling mine. You can actually hear it when getting to the top and in the filler tube.
DjD Oct 16th, 08, 09:08 AM I am in California and have a 67 RS that does the exact same thing. It's not just when the tank starts to reach capacity, it's while I'm filling it up...the only solution I've found is to go very, very slow when filling. I was thinking that the design of the fuel neck filler (40+ years old) must not be able to handle these newer, faster pumps. I have no other explanation, because I've got a new tank and a new fuel neck filler. Thoughts?
Thats Exactly What Happens I Guess Theres No Solution To It Doing This Then. Its Just Starting To Become A Real Pain And I Was Starting To Think That It Was Something To Do With The Filler Neck. Well Thanks Everyone For Your Help I Guess That Ill Have To Deal With It Then. I Guess Thats How It Is When You Have A 40 Yr Old Car That You Love So Much Lol.
Pumps back in the day filled a tank much faster than todays pumps. Most of the problem is technique, sorry for the long post above but if you don't want spilt fuel there is a way... :yes:
sixTate Oct 16th, 08, 09:17 AM I am in California and own a 68 and have the same problem. I have found a couple of stations where it isn't so bad. Then one station I know off doesn't have the rubber stoppers attached and without those I have no problems at all. I try to put them in all the way, push hard and if it leaks go slow. But it is a b*tch.
edhjohnb Oct 16th, 08, 09:24 AM Pumps back in the day filled a tank much faster than todays pumps. Most of the problem is technique, sorry for the long post above but if you don't want spilt fuel there is a way... :yes:
Dennis, I appreciate what you're saying, but I'm not an idiot and use the exact same technique you described in your post with the exact same results. Based on the numerous posts on this topic, I think we need to acknowledge that there may be something here beyond simple operator error.
click Oct 16th, 08, 09:25 AM I just hold the handle in my hand, not use the auto-off feature, and listen as it fills up. I know by my guage that I will be adding maybe 10 or 12 gallons so I watch the pump, when it get near 10 I slow down the handle and I can hear the 'fill' sound that Dennis mentioned. Once it gets close to what I expect to put in, I quit. No need to 'top off' right up to the gas cap either. This solved the one time 'gush' I had when I first filled my camaro. :)
Mark Rossiter Oct 16th, 08, 07:26 PM My only experience with gas pumps in California is in Orange County (my folks live there) and even with a non-Camaro, those gas hoses are a royal pain. For one thing, with that dumb spring-loaded vapor baffle contraption you pretty much HAVE to use two hands to wrestle with the hose. Secondly, those nozzles don't have as much 'curve' to them and they don't seem to go in the fill tube as far as the ones I am used to.
New York is bad enough with its 'laws to make life worth living', but it's not as bad as California - and unlike New Jersey, they consider us qualified enough to pump our own gas. At least for now.
Z06vette Oct 17th, 08, 12:42 PM I actually have the opposite problem with my 69. I too listen when filling it up. My problem is with a full tank, gas leaks out when i take off from a stop. This happens until i get around 3/4 tank. Everything is new- tank/pickup/gas cap etc. Tried 3 different caps. I also notice there is a lot of pressure when i release the cap. It is marked VENTED right on the cap. I just stopped filing it all the way unless going on long trip.
Scott
67FREAK Oct 17th, 08, 01:39 PM I just wrap one of those blue paper towels they have at the pump around the spout where it goes into the filler neck, then when it clicks off I just throw the paper towel in the trash, no fuel on my paint.
davezila Oct 17th, 08, 02:02 PM With todays nozzles and short hoses start by parking close enough to the pump. Have the nozzle in one hand ready to insert into the filler neck, with your other hand, arm extended pull the hose tight from the pump. This takes all the pressure off the nozzle. Now insert the nozzle into the filler neck so the nozzle follows the curve of the neck. I'll look for the picture I drew after I finish this post. Apply a slight presure againt the nozzle to keep it in place. Start pumping, you can set the auto fill clip but don't let go of the nozzle. As the tank fills the noise the fuel makes going into the tank changes. You can hear when it is getting fuller. Release the auto fill early, don't rely on the auto fill clip to let go for you. It's best not to top off but once you get use to the filling sound, you'll know if you can add a bit more after the first click off...
Dennis is right on the money and I could not have explained it better. The "two handed fill-up method" is exactly the right way to do it - I learned the hard way after a few hundred fill-ups...LOL
Dave
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