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oo68z28 Oct 21st, 08, 10:25 PM I bought this car in 83 in montana. 68 camaro corvette bronze, 12 bolt factory 4.10 gears bv 02 27 code, 4 speed, power disc brake (4 pistons), 4 leaf rear springs, rear bumper guards, 9078 power booser, wt master cylinder, std int,rear antenna, it is a 03B date code, coil has a ee tag on it. The car did not come with the motor ,tran or radiator. z28 on the front fenders. rear spoiler. If somebody has any info of the car it was in washinton with a black top that was added. the e70x15 sticker is in the glove box but it is not sticking anymore. what else is there to look for, i have looked for the build sheet but no luck.
wagonman Oct 21st, 08, 11:16 PM Owner history is the most valuable determination!
You will have to look long and hard for a 68 build sheet.
To actually come close to verifying the cars true pedigree we must see the car. At least pictures anyway.
The items you have described sound promising. But in this case the true way is having the original drive train and this seems to be an option we don’t have.
If the items you have describe line up, we can always have the feeling that it is/was a 68 Z/28.
Unreal Oct 22nd, 08, 11:08 AM Did the spoiler hit the rear antenna on the 68 like the 69? I know in 69 you could not order both the rear antenna and the spoiler due to interference when you lift the deck lid.
al8apexer Oct 22nd, 08, 12:38 PM is it a L car or a N car?
the Van Nuys built cars ALL had the stripe color painted on the upper cowl, sure fire way to determine what it was born as ...
oo68z28 Oct 22nd, 08, 03:43 PM it is a nor car, the rear antenna was broke when i bought the car and i could not find one so i added a electric antenne and is only up about 1' so it does not hit. factory am radio so it is there only to cover the big hole. i think the car had the factory exhaust when i bought it the muffler was between the rearend and the gas tank. had two pipes in and two out. the tail pipes where not round they were oval and came out under the back by the tank in a 45% angle.
al8apexer Oct 22nd, 08, 05:59 PM sounds like a real Z28, IF it has the factory tach and the red line is 6k, then that is another tell tale sign (positive)
Gary L Oct 22nd, 08, 06:38 PM Doesn't matter. You can make it a real Z/28. John will help.:D
oo68z28 Oct 22nd, 08, 08:17 PM no tach, interior is std 712. it does have the shoulder seat belts. when i bought the car it had around 52000 miles,original paint, exhaust, and i think still the rotors. i got it in 83 and the last tag was in 76 in washigton. is there a lot of cars that came with the 4.10 gears? i know that was a option. what do you do to a car like this? i did change the color, i know but i was 20.
Garfields Maro Oct 23rd, 08, 03:44 AM From what I hear, a tach was optional even on early model 69 Z's. I'm certainly no expert but yours sounds like it could be a legit Z. You say the paint was original when ya bought it....did it have the hood & deck stripes??
SEK Z28 Oct 23rd, 08, 05:27 AM The EE front spring tag is very telling if they look to be 40 years old. That is the same code my 03A Norwood Z/28 has on it.
oo68z28 Oct 23rd, 08, 05:26 PM it did have the black stripes front and back, but i did not know alot about z28 back then and did not take any pictures of how the stripes were painted. i which i would of left the original paint on it it was not that bad.
Garfields Maro Oct 24th, 08, 01:10 AM "What do you do to a car like this?"
Well, that's your call, but from all the info you've gave, I'd say it's an original Z.....good enough for the girls I go with anyway:D If it were mine, I'd bring it back to it's glory days when it come off the show room floor....only thing different would be the engine/tranny. Maybe a nice GM crate motor, take your pick. Probably be a much better car to drive anyway, compared to the MightyMouse 302. Sounds like ya know a bit of the history on the car, ya never know, if ya keep your eyes open the original block might turn up:eek:
Got any pix?
Kinda interesting on the tail pipes, you say they were oval? I wasn't aware of that. I put an original style system on mine but they're round.
oo68z28 Oct 28th, 08, 10:00 PM they where only oval at about the last two to three inches of the tail pipe. mybe it was not the facctory pipes but i have never seen that before. is there anyone that knows that can help?
oo68z28 Oct 28th, 08, 10:01 PM they where only oval at about the last two to three inches of the tail pipe. maybe it was not the factory pipes but i have never seen that before. is there anyone that knows that can help?
Garfields Maro Oct 28th, 08, 11:31 PM In the assembly instruction manual, the drawing shows the end of the tail pipe "enlarged";) I had my system done by the local muffler doc, he had the specs. He didn't say anything about the tips but I had him expand about the last 3".....thought that's what the manual pics were showing:D:o They are kinda snug between the body and leaf spring. Guess I need to take'm off and givem a squeeze!
No pix of yer Z ??? They're bound to raise some interest:yes:
firstgenaddict Oct 29th, 08, 01:50 PM Those are the correct exhaust pipes... go to gardners site and look at the 68 Z exhaust system... I had a NOS one for my 68 and it was the same as gardners.
The rear ant could not be had with the spoiler...
Garfields Maro Oct 30th, 08, 01:25 AM James, I'm not familar with Gardners, ya got a link?
Just to clarify, the exhaust system isn't really a Z only thing, correct? I mean it's the same as all factory SB dual exhaust cars..... RPO NF2?
Thanks for your help.
firstgenaddict Oct 30th, 08, 07:33 AM www.gardnerexhaust.com
http://www.gardnerexhaust.com/67tailpipes.JPG
oo68z28 Nov 1st, 08, 01:47 PM i would think that only the z28 and maybe the l30 327 camaro would come with the dual exhaust in the sbc,i think it is called l30. correct me if i am wrong.
Kurt S Nov 1st, 08, 03:24 PM You're wrong. :)
Dual exhaust, RPO N10: standard on SS and Z, optional on any V8.
oo68z28 Nov 1st, 08, 05:51 PM thats correct i did forget the ss 350. but i would think if your car came from the factory as a sbc it would only be in the z28 or ss 350 is this correct?
Garfields Maro Nov 1st, 08, 06:08 PM LOL, I'm not gonna answer that:D
Dual exaust was standard on L30, L48, etc:). Riddle me this, did the BB use the same size tubing?.....still listed as NF2 in the AIM.
BTW, in the '68 AIM, N10 with resonators was "cancelled". The dual exhaust used for all is NF2 (no resonators).
LOL
oo68z28 Nov 1st, 08, 06:35 PM i think the bb and the z28 used the 2 1/4 only ??????
Garfields Maro Nov 2nd, 08, 04:34 PM Tom, I need to correct myself. After further investigation, it looks as though duals on the L30 was OPTIONAL, not standard as I stated:o I think you're correct on the tubing sizes, 2 1/4" inlet, 2" tail pipes for the Z & BB. I'm still not sure wether the L30, L48 used 2 or 2 1/4" headpipes..... seen it listed both ways. CRG says 2.
Have you looked around over at CRG? Alot of interesting stuff.....noticed there are several proclaimed '68 Z motors in the "orphans" section. Here's a link...
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?board=12.0
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