I was looking at chevythunders Daytona Yellow 69 Z in the for sale section and noticed the top part of the cowl was painted Black.
I think I read somewhere this was a basicly an original untouched car.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa290/vannuysz28/147.jpg

I guess my question is my car also has a Black cowl and I know my car has had 1 repaint so I always just assumed it was painted that way somewhere in its life before I bought it 10 years ago. Did they paint black striped cars cowls Black?

Here is a pic of mine
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o70/x77d80/2185992810035900443JgldmH_fs.jpg

Thanks in advance,

I have a 69 z-28 that is cortez silver with black stripes. The cowl area and firewall retain the factory paint. The top of the cowl is silver except under most of the cowl panel area where it is black. All z-28's were not painted the same way in the cowl area, ( norwood vs. Van nuys, etc. Etc.)

The last two Z's we've done were op, black stripe NOR cars. Both had full black from the firewall to under the cowl.

I also noticed this yellow Z has style trim gills and wheel opening mouldings but no roof drip moulding? I have a 69 silver Van Nuys car that is the same?

Nick ,

I beleive your car is a Norwood car and mine is a Van Nuys .. Van Nuys painted the area stripe color... there are a few threads about this on TC you may want to search

Both of the Norwood Z's here have white cowls...both are white striped cars, one is a 10D 1968 built Lemans Blue car and half the firewall was white, the other is a 04C Black car

http://inlinethumb07.webshots.com/42502/2883265830059464720S425x425Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2883265830059464720draqbS)

I also noticed this yellow Z has style trim gills and wheel opening mouldings but no roof drip moulding? I have a 69 silver Van Nuys car that is the same?

Any Style Trim car should have the bright wheel well moldings, bright drip rail moldings and the quarter grills moldings, as well as bright trim headlight bezels and bright vertical pieces on non-rs tail lights. All SS and I think all Z/28 got the quarter grill, even w/o style trim.

Any Style Trim car should have the bright wheel well moldings, bright drip rail moldings and the quarter grills moldings, as well as bright trim headlight bezels and bright vertical pieces on non-rs tail lights. All SS and I think all Z/28 got the quarter grill, even w/o style trim.

x-77 z-28's I do not believe got the 1/4 gills.

Any Style Trim car should have the bright wheel well moldings, bright drip rail moldings and the quarter grills moldings, as well as bright trim headlight bezels and bright vertical pieces on non-rs tail lights. All SS and I think all Z/28 got the quarter grill, even w/o style trim.


only cars with the style trim option Z21 have all that chrome trim . Z21 also ran concurrent with the Rally Sport option

My Van nuys style trim car had all of the crome trim. The owner took off the trim on the drip rails

X77, X66, X44 did not have 1/4 gill trim.

All SS had 1/4 gill molding, including X55 and X66.

http://camaros.org/numbers.shtml#XnnCodes

Thanks for the info guys, my car is a 08C X77 D80 car with no style trim although the second owner did install wheel well trim on it. :(

Dave,

Does the paint on my firewall resemble the black that was on the two Norwood cars you referanced? I just always assumed it had been painted black by one of the two previous owners.

Thanks again,

Dave,

Does the paint on my firewall resemble the black that was on the two Norwood cars you referanced?

I would say so, but I only have two op black stripe cars that I can personally reference.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/RamAirDave/RestoReference/Zcowl3.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/RamAirDave/RestoReference/Zcowl2.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/RamAirDave/RestoReference/Zcowl4.jpg

Dave,

Thanks for the info and the pics, I just saw them today.

:beers:

as been stated before, ALL the Van Nuys cars got the cowl painted in stripe color, exactly as your black is on your gold car

the "good" thing about that is that makes ID'ing a body easy (Z or not?)

Norwood painted the cowls body color

Here are some older posts from JohnZ about cowl black-out in regards to the wiper trans linkage area, and not the entire upper cowl area for black stripe Zs. Apologize that I posted quotes that are pretty much saying the same thing (certainly no fault of John :beers: ), just what I found in a search about what I've read here before and hasn't been mentioned lately :thumbsup:

The cowl plenum blackout below the wiper linkage apparently came and went at the whim of the guys doing blackout, but it was part of the Fisher Body paint spec; my Norwood 02D original-paint Z has it blacked out too.


As I indicated in the "Assembly Process" document, that process apparently varied a lot; all I can say for sure is that my unrestored/original paint 02D car is in the photo below; the lower plenum area where the wiper linkage is is blacked-out (runny and sloppy), and the top of the cowl below and forward of the vent grille panel is body color. The firewall blackout starts roughly along the seam between the firewall and the upper cowl panel. At least that's the way they did it at Norwood during the 4th week in February


the wiper linkage was installed by Chevrolet, many hours after the body and cowl vent panel were painted and the cowl plenum area was blacked-out in the Fisher Body Paint Shop.


I can't speak to '67 or '68, but the Fisher Body paint spec for 69's called for the cowl plenum area to be blacked out; the plants may have "cheated" on some dark colors or just flat not done it on some others, but the spec was to black out all of them. My untouched original NOR 02D '69Z (Fathom Green, white stripes) has the cowl plenum area (sloppily) blacked out as it was supposed to be done. The wiper linkage was installed later, in the Chevrolet side of the plant, about 500 cars past the end of the Paint Shop, and should show nothing other than the original supplier-applied black paint on the link rods

If I am remembering it right. At Vettefest last weekend there were two very orig Norwood cars and the top of the cowl was white all over to match the stripe ?

If I am remembering it right. At Vettefest last weekend there were two very orig Norwood cars and the top of the cowl was white all over to match the stripe ?

That is what I have gathered from what I've read in regards to white stripe cars, though I haven't had any through here for first-hand reference. Just the two black stripe cars.

http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/41746/2120821060059464720S425x425Q85.jpg