Can someone give me a price on this car??
http://64.17.169.186/inventory/69_red_camaro_418.htm

NO tach ? Console looks to be a new repro. Do you have any pics of the trim tag, Engine stamp , Vin ?

This car was discussed in another thread, but can't find the thread.

This car was discussed in another thread, but can't find the thread.


That was me. I will try to get pics of the TT.

$50K is a lot for this car with so many unknowns, and no picture of the TT and other stampings.

Herer more pics

http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq305/ambrola/69TT.jpghttp://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq305/ambrola/69camaroandsilvervet001.jpghttp://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq305/ambrola/69camaroz28002.jpghttp://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq305/ambrola/69camaroz28007.jpghttp://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq305/ambrola/69camaroandsilvervet006.jpg

http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq305/ambrola/69camaroTag.jpg

The pics above are side by side??

http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq305/ambrola/69camaroTag.jpg

The pics above are side by side??
Is the blue from the camera flash ?

Is the blue from the camera flash ?

Can someone decode the tag?? Yes

Nit picky thing but with a console the white gear shift knob with shift pattern is wrong. So either the knob is wrong or originally didn't have a console. Still a nice car but lots of bucks.....

1 = Chevrolet
2 = Camaro
4 = 8-cylinder engine
37 = coupe body
9 = 1969 model year
N = Norwood, OH assembly plant
642123 = vehicle serial number sequence

Decode for body number: 325157

05A = Built the First week of May.
69-12437 = Coupe.
NOR = Built in Norwood Ohio.
711 = Standard Black Bucket Seats.
52-52 = Car Color is Garnet Red
X77 = Z28 without style trim

VIN sequence lines up with TT date.

I am thinking of trading my 67. Would have to work out for both of us. He is in to high on the 69, and I am in to deep on the 67. It would have to be pretty much right, engine, trans and rear for me to continue.

Appears to be the wrong master cylinder, and I do not see the barrel valve for the front disc, unless its just hidden in the pic. Not trying to nit-pick it either,but just want to give you some negotiating points :)

Appears to be a real garnet red Z based on the vin and TT. But.....as was said, check the drivetrain numbers. Look for the exhaust plate, the muncie firewall piercing,etc.etc.

I've seen pics of your 67, and it appears to be like new. This Z,while more valuable long-term, is obviously an older restoration. Another negotiating point .;)

I'd be wanting some cash plus the Z for your 67 as it stands right now. At least enough cash to buy the correct parts- 309 master. barrel valve,smog (biggie).

Thanks Bob. Di you guys see anything else out of place??

Thanks Bob. Do you guys see anything else out of place??

This dont have anything to do with the Z, but I talked with the lady that bought my 67 new yesterday afternoon. She said she thinks she has some more paperwork and knows for sure she has some old pics of the 67 when it was new. She is going to send me all she can find. That will be a letter I can't wait to get?

NO tach ? ........
It should have a tach. The beginning of April a tach is mandatory. Maybe caught up in changover.

assembly stamp is T0113DZ
Block casting number is 3970010 and block casting date is hard to read but likely A 13 9.

engine has Jan 13th assembly date and block has Jan 13 cast date???

Any signicance to the fact that you see 2 alum pop rivets just above the dash VIN? Does the vin match the cowl vin?

alan

http://www.camaros.org/geninfo.shtml#HowMany

642xxx appears to be fine.

"Powered by original 302 engine with matching 4 speed manual transmission" is a little vague.

assembly stamp is T0113DZ
Block casting number is 3970010 and block casting date is hard to read but likely A 13 9.



January casting date is too early for this car IMO, and I do not think that DZ's were made in Tonowanda plant, only the Flint plant (VO code). Are you sure its a "TO"? I also do not think that a January build could be a 010 block casting.

Is he claiming the car has the matching engine?

Wrong master cylinder, no proportioning valve. That engine seems to be dated too early for the trim tag date. Mar-Apr was a really busy time so I would think the motor might be 2-4 weeks prior to build. I would assume the motor is not original unless you can get a really good picture of the partial VIN stamp. It doesn't look like a restored car either, just one that was cleaned up. If the trim tag is original and it's a real Z28 then maybe it might be worth $25-35K with a non original motor. It's tough to say without seeing more details.

Yea,
I going to pass on this car. I want a 69 Z that is right, no problems. Besides, he wants more for the car than it is worth.

January casting date is too early for this car IMO, and I do not think that DZ's were made in Tonowanda plant, only the Flint plant (VO code). Are you sure its a "TO"? I also do not think that a January build could be a 010 block casting.

Is he claiming the car has the matching engine?
DZ engines were only built at the Flint plant.

that place is always high on price, I drove out there several times and was not as happy when I had seen the cars. they do get nice cars also. but the prices are high. just my opinion. thank you Allen

DZ engines were only built at the Flint plant.




Thanks Gary, that's what I thought.:yes: Thanks for confirming.

Sounds like its a restamp if its a TO code then.

Wrong LH exhaust mainfold. That one's from an automatic transmission engine. That detail makes me wonder if the engines been replaced, and that would be OK as long as it's wasn't represented as original.

Wrong LH exhaust mainfold. That one's from an automatic transmission engine. That detail makes me wonder if the engines been replaced, and that would be OK as long as it's wasn't represented as original.

I thought I saw smog plugs on the manifolds on both sides?? But with a "T" engine stamp, there's little doubt it's not the original motor.

missing most of the deep groove pulleys, aluminum spring spacers jammed into the front coil springs (BAD thing)

glad you decided to pass