I have been looking at NOS Quarters. One guy sent a picture of the fender and this label.
Is it NOS??
http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee353/new2camaro/69camarooempartnumber.jpg

Ask him to send you a picture of the stamped numbers in the top corner of the panel where the trunk lid lays.

No.

Still wanting to put a 1/4 on that Z?

Like Travelinz28 said, all factory quarters have numbers stamped in the channel where the trunk lid rests upon. I have never seen a GM Sticker like that one and I have been in the hobby for 25 years.

I believe that is a sticker from a GM approved part manufactured by an outside source. Not an NOS part. Search for the part numbers as told above. Oh yea.... The original blue/white sticker is nothing like that.


Kev

is that 2008 representative of the year?

Still wanting to put a 1/4 on that Z?

If he was smart, he'd be looking for a good used 'factory' piece to repair the damaged/rusted area.. and keep the original quarter.. :) . good body men can make it where you can never tell the repair without stripping the paint.... cheaper and BETTER (for his car) than replacing the entire 1/4...

I like that " if he was smart" he would patch it. Well i tink eye mite tri 2 pach if i kn figger it hout.

I like that " if he was smart" he would patch it. Well i tink eye mite tri 2 pach if i kn figger it hout.
Right on the mark!

capt

Here is a picture of a GM quarter sticker I put on the 69 camaro. I bought 2 of them but cant remember if this was driver or passenger side.

Sorry it is so blurry but you can see how a old sticker looks.
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj16/prostreet69camaro/NOSquarterpanelsticker.jpg

I have a NOS 70-73 rear tail panel that has an odd looking sticker on it. It has to be a GM peice because i bought it in 1984, I don't think there were any reproductions of this panel back then.

What do ya think? It has been in my basement for 25 years!




http://www.camaros.net/showroom/data/531/345203287_1185329472_0.jpeg

I like that " if he was smart" he would patch it. Well i tink eye mite tri 2 pach if i kn figger it hout.

ROFL... Hey.. no disrespect intended... I just think that is what you should do to your car... (and there was a smiley out there). . :)

I know. Just giving ya a hard time. DENNIS

If he buys an NOS 1/4, he can have his body guy cut out a patch and save the good part of the original. Then he can sell whats left of the panel to someone who needs that part....;) Less molesting of his original and less work/cost to install.

The pic from Dennis does appear to be a reproduced sticker similar to jcdubbs with a different font and a date of E=May 8 2008....

If he buys an NOS 1/4, he can have his body guy cut out a patch and save the good part of the original. Then he can sell whats left of the panel to someone who needs that part....;) Less molesting of his original and less work/cost to install.

The pic from Dennis does appear to be a reproduced sticker similar to jcdubbs with a different font and a date of E=May 8 2008....

Why waste a NOS 1/4, they are bringing STUPID Money these days. Use a repo 1/4 and after you trim/grind and hammer weld the repo part, you will not know the difference. I think they also make patch panels from the body line down behind the wheel do they not?
A friend in Calgary is restoring a glacier Blue 69Z, and his 1/4 was a little rotten on the RH lower rear, his body guy trimmed the replacement panel, then butt tig welded it and hammer welded it and you would never know it has been changed. He owns a Restoration Shop by the way and he DID get NOS GM 1/4,s with the car, but his body guy said it was stupid to change the whole 1/4, as it is only original once.
Troy Trepanier did this same thing a few years back in a magazine article on a Mopar? front lower fender that was rotted out, it was amazing when he was done.

Dennis, The Sticker is Bogus by the way.

Why waste a NOS 1/4, they are bringing STUPID Money these days. Use a repo 1/4 and after you trim/grind and hammer weld the repo part, you will not know the difference. I think they also make patch panels from the body line down behind the wheel do they not?
Dennis, The Sticker is Bogus by the way.

Yes, they do and it has been suggested before but it appears he is still seeking an NOS panel. I was merely offering an alternative repair with NOS metal rather than changing the whole 1/4. It is kind of a spoof since I doubt anyone would cut up a $800 1/4 BUT, ya never know...:noway:..and it IS HIS car...:yes:

I have a NOS 70-73 rear tail panel that has an odd looking sticker on it. It has to be a GM peice because i bought it in 1984, I don't think there were any reproductions of this panel back then.

What do ya think? It has been in my basement for 25 years!




http://www.camaros.net/showroom/data/531/345203287_1185329472_0.jpeg
That is an early GM Sticker. My 64 Chevelle NOS Fenders have the same early style sticker.

Yes, they do and it has been suggested before but it appears he is still seeking an NOS panel. I was merely offering an alternative repair with NOS metal rather than changing the whole 1/4. It is kind of a spoof since I doubt anyone would cut up a $800 1/4 BUT, ya never know...:noway:..and it IS HIS car...:yes:

Sorry Mitch, I didnt mean anything by my reply, I kinda figured you where just kidding around anyway, it takes a little these days to sink in, it is -34 with the wind chill here, I have shoveled the walks 4 times today.
I remember that it has been suggested before by Clill and lots of other very knowledgable TC members, but in the end it is Dennis who will have to make the decision. I personally would never change the whole 1/4, I had completely forgot about my buddy Carmine and his glacier blue Z, I posted it so people know you do have options instead of changing a whole panel.
I have put lots of 1/4s on Camaros before in the 80,s , and it is a lot of work to do it correctly so that it can not be recognized from original. The 1/4 as you know goes up into the drip rail and also the back window area, not to mention the door jam and the rocker and the tulip panel. It allways seemed that the seam sunk at the roof pillar down the road, and the pinch welds in the door jam and trunk area are very hard to duplicate, but I know how. JMO.

Hey-- I'm just playing the whole field and enjoying the hunt. I like that part. I'm not rushing into anything this winter, so I was seeing whats out there. Remember I'm new 2 camaros.
You guy already know there expensive, I'm learning as I go. You guys learned somehow. Now it's my turn--I'm there now. You all have been great help along the way and I thank you. Yes I have been told in previous posts not to change the whole Quarter--But-- I have also been told to install a complete Goodmark quarter, fight the fit until I get it right. Then I'll have no seam or visible welds to cleanup. And when its done , nobody can tell it's a repo.
I have a 69 firebird Quarter that is excellent. I hate to cut it, but I will to make the smallest patch I can. I plan to wire feed a butt weld type joint to easly hide it. I have been told to cut under the top body line--on the top boby line and on the top of the fender next to the body line.DENNIS

Hey-- I'm just playing the whole field and enjoying the hunt. I like that part. I'm not rushing into anything this winter, so I was seeing whats out there. Remember I'm new 2 camaros.
You guy already know there expensive, I'm learning as I go. You guys learned somehow. Now it's my turn--I'm there now. You all have been great help along the way and I thank you. Yes I have been told in previous posts not to change the whole Quarter--But-- I have also been told to install a complete Goodmark quarter, fight the fit until I get it right. Then I'll have no seam or visible welds to cleanup. And when its done , nobody can tell it's a repo.
I have a 69 firebird Quarter that is excellent. I hate to cut it, but I will to make the smallest patch I can. I plan to wire feed a butt weld type joint to easly hide it. I have been told to cut under the top body line--on the top boby line and on the top of the fender next to the body line.DENNIS

Dennis, I can spot repo 1/4,s 10 feet away, they are not a perfect 90* where they bend to the trunk gap and also the little horizontal lip under the spoiler above the tailite is way less pronounced, almost round when comparing to GM. The indents on the front of the 1/4 (where the gill moulding goes) are not the same either. Dont matter who,s repo 1/4s you buy they are all the same IMO. If you are going to change the 1/4 GM NOS is the only 1 I would ever consider, These cars are worth it.
If you ever get a chance to see 2 cars side by side with repo and GM 1/4,s (like at Barrett or Russo Steele) you will quickly learn what I am talking about.
From your pictures posted before I would cut it under the middle body line, I personaly would tig weld it, nice small welds and after you hammer and dolly the area and grind you should be able to use no filler, just pick and file.
Anyway Good Luck with your project which ever you decide and Please keep us TC members informed with your progress.

I have a 69 firebird Quarter that is excellent. I hate to cut it, but I will to make the smallest patch I can. I plan to wire feed a butt weld type joint to easly hide it. I have been told to cut under the top body line--on the top boby line and on the top of the fender next to the body line.DENNIS

You have your solution right there. The lines and gauge of metal should match better than any aftermarket patch. I suggest cutting below the body line off the wheel well, like rszmjt said. That way you don't have to try to match that line and any final filler needed would end at the crease. You can do it......:thumbsup:

Where would you cut it?

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee353/new2camaro/8-22-08002-1.jpg

I would cut it real low and see how good the metal is, you can allways trim more if needed. Nice thing is it is readily accesible for metal work, you have to bend up the trunk filler panel to get into there to grind, but if you do it carefully you can bend the filler back down and it will hide any imperfections in the trunk area. Those dents and the wheel well lip can easily be fixed by a good body man.
You can drill out the factory spot welds on the lip and then when you put in the piece you can plug weld it in the factory spots and then hit it with a Rolox Disc.
Couple of hours of hammer and dolly by a good metal man and you will be very surprised how good it will look.

What about cutting about 2 inches above the wheel well body line, starting at the back edge of the tire line--straight back to the trailing edge and from there everything down gets removed. This way the body line crease would come from the firebird fender.

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee353/new2camaro/mikesams5093755728049-1.jpg

What about cutting about 2 inches above the wheel well body line, starting at the back edge of the tire line--straight back to the trailing edge and from there everything down gets removed. This way the body line crease would come from the firebird fender.

I wouldn,t. I would cut it below the line as far down as the metal is good. The smaller the surface area the less warpage you will have from welding. If you weld it above the body line it will go nuts from heat when welding, besides there is no rust up that high. And by the way the welding shops have a heat soaking paste to stop warpage when welding. Plus you do not want to get into the tailite area around the back panel. Go all the way to the factory seam at the lower exhaust panel, dont patch panel it. Use lots of small tac welds and then weld a little at a time alternating from end to end.

Thanks. I'll take a good look at that.

I like rsz's approach. the dents can be removed with a stud welder and puller. Here's a dent I had removed from a Camaro door with a stud puller.
http://inlinethumb50.webshots.com/44337/2334528260100567145S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2334528260100567145ZJaqZD)

You can see the dent in the door is all stretched and pushed out from the inside from a rookie trying to "fix" it. I didn't take a pic from the inside when i got it back, but I should've, cause I couldn't tell it had ever been bent from the inside either. Here it is in epoxy primer and final paint. There is only a skim coat of filler in the door.

http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/43985/2850111260100567145S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2850111260100567145VaHKla)
http://inlinethumb59.webshots.com/43578/2019952240100567145S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2019952240100567145XmCYNu)

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:confused: They show up for me......anyone else not see them ??

Nothing to see. no link.

Mitch...

Pictures are fine here....


Kev

What am I doing wrong? are they showing up like mine did, or do you click on something to see them?
Mitch...

Pictures are fine here....


Kev

What am I doing wrong? are they showing up like mine did, or do you click on something to see them?

They show up like yours....right in the text line. Maybe you have a filter blocking them ?

http://www.camaros.net/forums/C:%5CDocuments%20and%20Settings%5CMitch%5CMy%20Doc uments%5CMy%20Pictures%5CIroc

What am I doing wrong? are they showing up like mine did, or do you click on something to see them?

Did,'t click on anything...they show withing the message from Mitch...

Kev

OK. now the pictures just appeared.