Whats a good place to get a 1969 bolt on chassis that comes with everything already on the chassis. (Suspension, All around disk brakes, Engine mounts, Power Steering, Etc...) Please post some links and your experience or what you know or herd about them! Thanks.

You need to be a little more specific about what you're trying to do. There are NEW front subframes out there complete with huge disc brakes, rack & pinion steering, tubular control arms, etc for several thousand dollars or are you looking for a complete stock setup with disc brakes ? As far as the stock type stuff I've never seen anyone selling them complete other than rebuilt used stuff on Ebay & such that were put together by someone for a car that ended up being parted out or changed over to the newer high tech stuff. What exactly are you looking to do and what's your budget ?

If I had the money and was to do it again I would go DSE...

http://gmachinechassis.com/

Try this

http://gmachinechassis.com/

Try this
I think these chasis are ok for Chevelles but I not to sure on the unabody cars.

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=146150

We probably are way up near the top of the list in overall subframe sales with the combined sales of the 4 brands we sell, Art Morrison, Chris Alston, DSE, and Speedtech. There are others but we choose not to sell them for many reasons.

All four products we carry are all great in different ways. Call me and we can discuss your needs and budget. You will save a few bucks buying from us no matter which you choose. Because we sell multiple brands, we can offer NON financially motivated suggestions. Because we do not manufacturer any of the offerings, we recommend the best product for you, not the best product for our wallet.

We probably are way up near the top of the list in overall subframe sales with the combined sales of the 4 brands we sell, Art Morrison, Chris Alston, DSE, and Speedtech. There are others but we choose not to sell them for many reasons.

All four products we carry are all great in different ways. Call me and we can discuss your needs and budget. You will save a few bucks buying from us no matter which you choose. Because we sell multiple brands, we can offer NON financially motivated suggestions. Because we do not manufacturer any of the offerings, we recommend the best product for you, not the best product for our wallet.
This would be the first step I would take if I were doing a Camaro again would be to call Frank very nice to deal with....I think he will stear you away from the full frame I think it is over kill and more than is needed on a first gen.

Tell us approximately how much money you plan to spend (or can spend) and there may be some recommendations. It will take some big bucks to buy what you asked about in your post.

Keith :)

Since you seem to have dissapeared it's about impossible to guess just what it is you're wanting to do. If you're looking for a stock subframe with disc brakes that's rebuilt and ready to bolt on that's probably not going to be easy to find. If that's the case you might want to post a "want to buy" ad here in the classifieds. You may find a member here who took off a stock type setup when they upgraded to one of the aftermarket frames such as those sold by Prodigy Customs. Here's one I found on my local Craigslist for anyone in the New England area. http://nh.craigslist.org/pts/971200529.html

He has 7 posts I guess he won't be coming back....

He has 7 posts I guess he won't be coming back.... One of his first posts was about a 69 Camaro he was "trying" to buy. Maybe he bought a Mustang instead... :(

He said he had a Camaro in one post as well and was thinking of getting a new shell he must have hit the lotto....

I think these chasis are ok for Chevelles but I not to sure on the unabody cars.


You are prpobably correct on that. I wondered how they handle the existing rear frame rails.

No I'm here I've been just busy sorry about that, but I want a performance chassis thats ready to be bolt on, I can talk to the person making them later about what engine I'm building that I'm putting on their but like I said one that you can bolt on thats has high performance parts and I want to be able to turn like a porshe or lambo or something if you guys know what I mean. Price range is no problem because I'm selling my 1969 camaro that I have right now for 30k and I'm gonna build a new one fresh and my budget for the car will be around 30-40k. So I'm going to do my best to put everything within that. Thanks guys sorry again about the long wait.

I think the DSE stuff would be the way to go but 40K may not get you there for a new complete Dynacorn body all new sheet metal and everything else for a complete car.

Ok just sticking to your original Question ,I think it was addresed well on post 7 ,period. Now my question ,do you have a 69 already???What shape ???basket case needing total resto??? ,going to buy a nice car 25 to 35 K and through one of the aftermarket sub's under it ??? I think all this missing information is needed for a qualified person to make a recamendation, if a shop is going to do the work local ,full resto ,part resto or just hang the sub ,maybe they have a perference on what subframe to use ,sorry IMO things that half to be looked into,for enough $$$ a guy can buy turning like any high $$$ car.The Art Morrison Subframe is manufactured 30 miles from me ,wish I had 5+ G's for one,I just go pick it up and save fright ,My subframe connectors and roll cage are AM pieces I did 27 yrs ago,still NHRA legal...Good luck and Happy Motoring

If your asking me if I have a 1969 camaro. Of course I do, thats the thing my car is so restored that I just want to start over. I'm selling my car for 30k if your interested I will give you all the info and pictures. :yes: But back to topic if you have feedback on some chassis that would be valuable please feel free to post.

The full Morrison frame is great, although I'm not familiar with it for the Camaro...

Hey David Calligan you mention earlier in this thread about just going with the subframe do you think that those are a lot weaker when it comes to performance than a solid full chassis? Because I know Schwartz makes those bolt on full chassis and I was just wondering what do you think and what would you do? Because I'm going big with my next project and I'm doing most of the work because I got time and a brain thats learning hungry so if you can give me some feedback on that it would be great. Thanks 69Z28-RS for some feedback I took a look into those more.

David also if you can take a look at their site ( http://www.gmachinechassis.com/ ) and tell me what you think about the handling and if its high performance and a solid overall good handling chassis. I want my next car flawless if you know what I mean, oh and I want to talk to you later about your car! Haha thanks David.

Mon, I know you specifically asked David and I value his opinion also. We build a lot of cars and use / have used a lot of products, so I feel we have a pretty good opinion also. I have built both full frame and LOTS of subframe cars, and we even own a full frame car. While I have not used one of Jeff's frame, my full frame were built and welded into a channeled body. I can tell you the difference between a properly done sub frame connector car a full frame is marginal at best. The only full frame car I know that it made a big difference was our Project Prodigy which being a convertible benefited from the full chassis. However I feel pretty certain the majority of the benefit can probably be attributed to the spine and back bone style of the chassis. However, were this car not a convertible, but a coupe I suspect the improvement would not be as significant.



To be honest, more rigidity can be achieved with properly placed roll cage pick up points then the fullness of the frame. Personally for me having my choice of all products, the only reason I would use a full frame over a subframe / connector package, would be for a super low ride height. With a weld on frame you can channel the body like we did on Project Prodigy which has a 4 1/2" body drop, and get the car super low. However no bolt in frame will provide that, in fact bolt on full frame should ride a bit higher then quality subframe projects.



So for me, unless you want to go into a full on 400 hour fabrication project with a Art Morrison full frame Max G chassis, I would forget the full frame.

ProdigyCustoms shoot me some pictures please with your frames and tell me exactly everything about them and the price and the most you will be willing to go down and we will talk from their I have a lot of offers so make the deal as best as you can and be honest. My email is monmon030791@yahoo.com Shoot A LOT OF PICTURES AND INFO. Thanks. :thumbsup:

Happy New Year, you hooked up with post #7 ,Happy Motoring

Price range is no problem because I'm selling my 1969 camaro that I have right now for 30k and I'm gonna build a new one fresh and my budget for the car will be around 30-40k. So I'm going to do my best to put everything within that. Thanks guys sorry again about the long wait.

ProdigyCustoms shoot me some pictures please with your frames and tell me exactly everything about them and the price and the most you will be willing to go down and we will talk from their I have a lot of offers so make the deal as best as you can and be honest. My email is monmon030791@yahoo.com Shoot A LOT OF PICTURES AND INFO. Thanks. :thumbsup:

Looks like we may have gone from price range no problem to pricing being very important. We have good deals on everything we sell, but there is not a ton of room in any of these. I will not price war on this.

The honest part, that my friend we do better then anyone else simply because no one can speak with the experiance we can and provide as many options! In the end we are really going to need to talk on the phone to determine which is best for you. If you go bargain hunting after that, then it is what it is. You will be getting free advice here, a good deal here and great service.

So the frames are going to run from $4800 to $7400.

Go to:

http://www.speedtech-performance.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=results/category_id=214/home_id=214/mode=cat/cat214.htm

http://cachassisworks.com/cac_library_7701.html

http://detroitspeed.com/productpages/subframe.htm

http://artmorrison.com/layout.php?y=frontclip/camaro/&x=index

Each will have specs and pictures. Then when you are completly confused, Just call me so we can figure out whats best for you.

I think from what you have posted you are keeping this on the street and not going to drag race.If this is the case I would look at a subframe to the cost that you can comfortable with.There are many to choose from I do not sell them as Frank does so it is more appropriate for me to say but from all of them I think DSE has the design conchored.I would look at the same for the rear and there again the kit that DSE has looks pretty awsome.Mike prostreet69camaro is doing the DSE back half as we speak I would PM him he has spoke highly of there four link system.I would stay away from the full frame unless like Frank says you will need to chanell the whole floor to get it low to the ground you may want to take out all the floor.If you are going to drag race at times you mut want subframe conectors.If you are drag racing more than on the street you may want a different four link then DSE.Its all in what you want and what $$$$ you have.I have done a few race and PS cars and no PT cars.Frank is the guy you want to talk to more so than me I am just a back yard car enthuesiest and have little input here.Most of what I know is from Team Camaro and alot is from Frank.

Thanks Old Badguy for your comment I really do appreciate that haha. Prodigy I will speak to you more about frames on the phone so we can make business. Finally Pro-Street69Camaro, if you were trying to ask me in your last message if I am going to drag race, the answer is yes I will not crazy, but I will and I want my car solid like a rock, but fast like a rocket. =)

If your drag racing I would research the back half a little more.I think its gonna be hard to have the best of both worlds.

The Brand New G Link should do very well at both the autocross and drag strip. I am putting one in my street / drag car this month to see how it works at the drag strip. With lots of instant center adjustment and double adjustable shocks, I think it will work surprisingly well at the drag strip. I know it kicks ass handling, lets see if it will do both with some minor adjustment

Look for a install and full report soon.

Yeah tell me what you think and shoot me pictures of it because like I said I cant stress it enough this is going to be were I start with the car and I dont want to build everything and strip it down again that would be bad and a lot of work. So I want a chassis that has handling and turning like a lamborghini and the power for a drag race and just the look for a street car, its hard, but just tell me what you got and what you can come up with and PLEASE LET ME KNOW ALL THE INFORMATION.

There is not Production Camaro G Link photos out yet, but the following post has pics of the Mustang system which is very similar. I am doing a install on my own car of a pre production mini tub kit in a couple weeks and doing a full report.

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=132457&highlight=Chris+Alston

yeah if you can give me information that would be good :)

Looks like a nice set up.Frank what housing are you using could you use a 12 bolt and would you.

Sure you can run a 12 bolt. I will be using one of there fabricated 9" housings. We can set you up with the brackets for bolt on to your leaf perches if you DO NOT narrow the rear. if you narrow the rear we provide weld on brakcets.

I have high hopes for the set up after pending a few hours at dinner with Chris Alston learning all the adjustability and benefits.

Yeah post it all up if you can I'm really anxious.

Sure you can run a 12 bolt. I will be using one of there fabricated 9" housings. We can set you up with the brackets for bolt on to your leaf perches if you DO NOT narrow the rear. if you narrow the rear we provide weld on brakcets.

I have high hopes for the set up after pending a few hours at dinner with Chris Alston learning all the adjustability and benefits.
Wate you were at dinner with Chris Alston.You tried to slide that one by didn't you.Ok we know who to talk suspension to now.You are the man....

Here are some pictures of the G Link version installed in a members car. Looks killer.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh82/camaro69vn10/IMG_0891.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh82/camaro69vn10/IMG_0890.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh82/camaro69vn10/IMG_0894.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh82/camaro69vn10/IMG_0893.jpg

That is wonderful. Do you have any pictures for a full chassis? I want to check some out for those.

Check out Project Prodigy on our website

Yeah I've seen its, its an art.