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classicaut Jan 22nd, 09, 12:47 PM At the 2008 SEMA Show in Las Vegas on November 4, a North Carolina company was presented with a prestigious award from the Automotive Restoration Market Organization (ARMO) a council of the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA). The award was judged at Spring Carlisle by member businesses of ARMO. The council recognizes one new product each year as best representing the classic and antique automotive industry and hobby.
Classic Automotive Restoration Specialists (CARS) accepted the New Product of the Year in the Original Restoration category for their 1969 Continuation Series Yenko Camaro. Customers can order a brand new Yenko just as they could in 1969, experience the smell and feel of driving a new Yenko Camaro like it came from the dealership.
CARS is the only shop in the country with a license to build these Camaros. The Yenko Continuation Camaro has taken 2 1/2 years of research and collaboration with SEMA member companies to license and reproduce the parts. It is one of the best examples of SEMA member companies coming together for the good of the industry.
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Contact:Amber Washam
Amber.washam@classicautomotiverestoration.com (Amber.washam@classicautomotiverestoration.com)
8235 Nautical Point Drive
Belews Creek, North Carolina 27009
Classic Automotive Restoration Specialists
Phone 336-595-3900 Fax 336-595-4900
Classic Automotive Restoration Specialists has been recognized as a leader in restoration and custom building of quality antique and classic cars. Their work has been featured in magazines such as Street Rodder, Hot Rod, Street Trucks, Muscle Car Review, Super Chevy and Hot Rod & Restoration as well as having built awarding winning/record setting vehicles. Visit their website
www.classicautomotiverestoration.com/yenko.html (http://www.classicautomotiverestoration.com/yenko.html)
Z10396 Jan 22nd, 09, 01:21 PM They had an hugger orange one at Spring Carlisle. It was right next to the grand stands.
Eric Kammerer Jan 22nd, 09, 02:53 PM Amber, Jim has already been on here posting about these new cars http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=120439&highlight=classic+automotive
and since advertising is generally frowned on here anywhere but in the "for sale" (and maybe sponsor, if CARS became one), I am betting this thread may not last long.
okiemark Jan 22nd, 09, 06:19 PM thanks, but I'm saving my money for one built in '69
JOE58 Jan 23rd, 09, 06:22 AM What is this a joke? This Camaro clone ad should be in the classified section.
How can you say this is “1969 Continuation Series Yenko Camaro” and “Customers can order a brand new Yenko just as they could in 1969”?
This car has absolutely no relation to Don Yenko or Yenko Chevrolet.
In my opinion, a more accurate name then “Continuation Series Yenko” is “tee shirt Yenko” since the so called license to build these Camaros is from a company that registered the name and sold Yenko hats and tee shirts not cars.
NHBandit Jan 23rd, 09, 07:18 AM No offense Joe but don't you have anything better to do then bounce around from post to post bashing these cars ? The way you harped on it and wouldn't let it go on the first post about these cars over here made your opinion well known to the point where you were asked to give it a rest... http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=120439&highlight=classic+automotive They look like super nice cars and are not being sold as fakes or misrepresented in any way. They are no different than the tons of "tribute" cars out there being built except for the fact that they are built by a reputable company who paid good money for the rights to use the name. Do you go around to the car shows harrasing the owners of "tribute" cars and demand they remove the Yenko emblems from their cars as well ?
JOE58 Jan 23rd, 09, 08:16 AM No offense to you but what are you talking about?
My last post on that thread was Nov 17th, 2007, 09:40 AM. That is over a year ago!
I don't think I said anything about this car since then.
They posted an ad here with contact info that should be in the classified section.
and No I don't go around to the car shows harrasing the owners of "tribute" cars.
I have had some nice conversations with some of them about the Yenko cars.
vonzipper396 Jan 23rd, 09, 09:55 AM you guys are failing to see the bright side in this. if its true you can order one just like it's 1969 all over again ,i'll take one for the 6 or 7 grand the dealers were selling them for.heck,im gonna have over 20 rebuilding a plain jane with a big block and other add ons.
MUSCLECARMAGMAN Jan 23rd, 09, 12:01 PM How many do you think are going to be sold at $139,000 when full resto clones are $45-60 ? Thats not a question it's a comment. Some of the clones even have nicer restos than some of the original cars.Before anyone makes the "you can't restore a numbers,date coded,correct drivetrain for that much" statement,when your buying a clone a 454 that looks correct will do.These cars have no effect on the value of anything !!! They only have an effect on the minds of the people that own the real ones.I've never seen anyone selling parts stating "these parts will be sold to original Yenko owners only" .
Unreal Jan 23rd, 09, 04:35 PM Tim, Someone once commented on my CE L72 motor stating that it should be saved for someone with a real Yenko/COPO. I told them I would only sell to a real Yenko/COPO, but until such time as someone bought it, I would be "storing" it between the fenders of my Clone car. :)
MUSCLECARMAGMAN Jan 23rd, 09, 04:41 PM Funny Gary you should mention that.I remember a discussion over a ZL1 carb that should be saved for the guys with the real ZL1s who didn't want to pay for it.It reminds me also a story a friend told me about years ago.He built a clone Yenko camaro and had it at a show.A guy walked up to the car and saw he had a set of original triple gauge 2 5/8 green gauges in the car.He asked him to sell them to him he said ok and gave him a price on the whole car.He said the guy got po'd and told him they belong in a real car not a fake.How funny.
Unreal Jan 24th, 09, 04:15 AM I have a set of those 2-5/8" Greenlines. Wonder if the guy wants a package deal for CE L72 and gages? :) I put an NOS silver grille on my car, too!
Mine are used, but about 6-7 years ago, I was on ebay, trying to sniper a complete set of NOS greenlines (oil, temp, current, fuel, 5" speedo). With 20 seconds to go, they were at like $150-200. I snipered at around $500, and got out-snipered. I thought that was high, but in retrospect, was pretty cheap!!
Pro-Street69Camaro468 Jan 24th, 09, 06:16 AM There is a right up in this months Super Chevy on this and if I had $139,500 to spare I would get one.The first one is going to be badged #202 it will have a 427 450 hp and it went 11.90.The builder of this had Jerry MacNeish and two others do a review on them and only found three things wrong that will all be corrected the builder says.I think this is pretty cool the thing I would like to see is them to make the parts that they are getting available for someone else to make there own clone for a lower cost.
Chevy454 Jan 24th, 09, 01:38 PM The builder of this had Jerry MacNeish and two others do a review on them and only found three things wrong that will all be corrected the builder says.
That statement isn't in the least bit true...my father, Jerry, and Larry were all referenced in the article as having given the car a thorough inspection & subsequent "thumbs up". I won't speak for Jerry or Larry (this has already been hashed out @ Yenko.net) but my father in no way inspected or endorsed this car...there were some major liberties taken in these regards.
Pro-Street69Camaro468 Jan 24th, 09, 02:50 PM That statement isn't in the least bit true...my father, Jerry, and Larry were all referenced in the article as having given the car a thorough inspection & subsequent "thumbs up". I won't speak for Jerry or Larry (this has already been hashed out @ Yenko.net) but my father in no way inspected or endorsed this car...there were some major liberties taken in these regards.Did you get this months Super Chevy its in there I would call them on this.How can they print such lies then....
Chevy454 Jan 24th, 09, 03:05 PM Here's where it currently stands:
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=UBB1&Number=379607&page=1&fpart=1
Pro-Street69Camaro468 Jan 24th, 09, 04:09 PM This makes Super Chevy sound like its a gossip column.I think I may have to switch Magazines,how can the print statement made by someone and it wasn't true.Your dad,Jerry,and larry should say something about this.
Chevy454 Jan 24th, 09, 04:38 PM This makes Super Chevy sound like its a gossip column.I think I may have to switch Magazines,how can the print statement made by someone and it wasn't true.Your dad,Jerry,and larry should say something about this.
Again, I won't speak for the others, but I know my father tried contacting them, but it's fallen on deaf ears...as they say, the damage is done.
Pro-Street69Camaro468 Jan 24th, 09, 05:11 PM I think the idea is cool but to say things like this that are not true to maybe justify the cost makes it well just sound bad.It would be cool to have a all new 69 Yenko though.I guess I'll just have to keep my junk....
JOE58 Jan 27th, 09, 06:07 AM If you want something like this you should look at the new Motion Camaro.
http://www.officialbaldwinmotion.com/ss427andphase3.htm
Joel Rosen "Mr Motion" is the same guy who started building 427 Camaros in 1967 so at least they are real Motion cars.
Yenko Chevrolet closed in 1981 and Don died in 1987 so there can be no more real Yenko Camaros made by Don Yenko.
As fans of the 1st gen Camaro, we should try to protect the history of these cars and the legens who built and raced them. The future generations should be able to read about the real history of the cars and the people like Yenko, Motion, Dana, Nickey, Donohue, Penske, Grumpy Jenkins, Smokey Yunick, Vince Piggins, Harrell, Gibb, Thomas, and the rest.
rich pern Jan 27th, 09, 07:19 AM And Nickey makes a continuation series as well. Problem is these are not new cars, and can never be new again. They don't make 1969 cast 427's anymore. The drivelines are not #'s matching and never will be.
Bottom line, even the motion and nickey cars are what they are. Clones. Nice ones, and correct in every detail, but still clones.
Now if Nickey/Motion/Yenko made 2010 Camaros (and I understand they will)...........
Rich
vonzipper396 Jan 27th, 09, 07:35 AM All those cars & names you mentioned are famous and a part of history because of the hard work,dedication,and love of horsepower and performance that just came naturally to those people.This day and age is about $$$$and how much you can score for the least amount of work.these "new" motion ¥ko cars are not being produced for any other reason than cashing in on what name is on the fender.Mr. rosen isnt out back wrenching on those cars any more than ronald Mcdonald is cooking your next hamburger.Any one of us with financing could put together those same collection of parts for half or less than what they're asking for these cars,which is fine ,thats the american way. I have dealt with Mr. rosen in the past and didnt particularly like him or his attitude but I respect him for his accomplishments and his cars of the past.
Pro-Street69Camaro468 Jan 27th, 09, 02:38 PM They are all to rich for my blood.
rich pern Jan 27th, 09, 05:01 PM Dave,
Trust me on the Rosen thing, I agree. I was'nt trying to plug him.
I have a 69 Camaro from Baldwin with many Motion items (poss day 2?), that he was paid to certify, or not. He said it failed certification, which was OK. But, he refuses to put the failure in writing, then I suddenly start getting calls to buy it? HHmmmmmm.
I later find out that this happened with a Chevelle, that later turned up with a certification after "new" information was found....
vonzipper396 Jan 27th, 09, 05:08 PM and how much $ did he try to extort from you to not certify your car?Im pretty sure he has alist of VIN# he just has to look at.
Unreal Jan 27th, 09, 05:15 PM All those cars & names you mentioned are famous and a part of history because of the hard work,dedication,and love of horsepower and performance that just came naturally to those people.This day and age is about $$$ how much you can score for the least amount of work.these "new" motion ¥ko cars are not being produced for any other reason than cashing in on what name is on the fender.Mr. rosen isnt out back wrenching on those cars any more than ronald Mcdonald is cooking your next hamburger.Any one of us with financing could put together those same collection of parts for half or less than what they're asking for these cars,which is fine ,thats the american way. I have dealt with Mr. rosen in the past and didnt particularly like him or his attitude but I respect him for his accomplishments and his cars of the past.
Pardon me, but while Yenko, Rosen, and others were lovers of "over the top" performance, they too, where in it for the money!!
clill Jan 27th, 09, 05:38 PM Rosen doesn't have a vin list he can just check. He has files with velum type paper that he goes thru from what I am told. Nothing is simple.
rich pern Jan 27th, 09, 06:07 PM Actually, $2500.00 is what he was paid. I actually offered to pay him additional for the "paperwork" that the person I bought it from tried to get, but I was refused as well as that person.
It is sad some of the calls I got to buy the car. No one "knew" anything, but they all just "wanted" a project car just like this. I suspect (keyword here) that it is just a day 2 modded car from Long Island, hence the real motion items.
I probably would have sold it for a great deal if one of them would have been honest. Now, it can rot before I sell it.
Dan (1968Motion427SSNova ) at one time thought it could have been Brooklyn Heavy's old car, which was never found after he went to the big house, but has since been ruled out. No vinyl top.
Point is, they were all in it for the money, then and now. I don't think that we can ever recreate now what we had back then.........
I don't know what the middle ground is between making money and enjoying them is.
All we can do is "Smoke em if you got em" :)
Pro-Street69Camaro468 Jan 27th, 09, 06:44 PM If you or I were to build a car simular to this car mentioned how much would it be just for materials no labor involved.It was mentioned in Super Chevy that it was going to have a 427.
rich pern Jan 27th, 09, 08:31 PM Casey here just did a car (w/o Big Block) for around 45K. Add say 5k for a BB, and I'd say you can build one for 50K.
Rich
JOE58 Jan 28th, 09, 04:22 AM I have two 1980s Motion cars and it took 5 min to get the letters of documentation from Joel. The cars are his and his wife's old cars that they bought new so he was 100% sure that they were real cars and just wrote out the letters.
I know of a Chevelle that had the old DMV reg and Joel knew the car because it was his friends name on the old reg. so he wrote a letter for that car. If Joel remembers the car or has the old work order with the vin on it, there is no problem to get a letter.
Other cars it is not so clear if they are real or not.
Joel gets a lot of calls where people want him to document a car so he charges them to do the research on it. His letter can either change a $5K pile of junk into a $50K pile of junk or you get nothing. That is the chance you take.
Some cars look like real Motion cars but he does not remember them or find anything on them. Joel has a lot of interesting stories on cars!
rich pern Jan 28th, 09, 02:56 PM OK, and I agree that is the risk you take.
But if it is a thumbs down, the paperwork should refect that. If it's not a motion today, it should not be a motion tomorrow.
Too many people have been denied paperwork that in my opinion they are owed and paid for. In the one case I was told about, a chevelle, later turned up as a "real" motion.
Rich
JOE58 Jan 28th, 09, 04:38 PM I don't represent Joel but have been a Motion collector for many years and have heard many stories on the cars.
I don't see how Joel can give you a letter saying it is definitely not a Motion car.
How can he be sure of this? He does not have info on all the cars he did.
He can only tell you if he has something that tells him it is a Motion car.
For example, if you found the original owner of your car and he has the original Motion work order or the Baldwin Auto Sales paperwork showing the Motion 427 conversion, then Joel can give you a letter on that new evidence.
This has happeded before where additional evidence was found on a car and Joel gave the letter based on this new evidence.
He has to be careful because people have purposely put togther cars with old Motion parts and decals and then try to get him to document their "creation".
I have seen more then one of these.
m10ren Jan 28th, 09, 07:28 PM I was able to meet and talk at length with Jim Barber (of CARS) at SEMA, he was a very nice gentleman and kind enough to point me in the right direction on my restoration. I owe him a great deal. Anyway his cars did look amazing, however I'm still not sure the difference between this and a clone.
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/m10ren/SEMA030.jpg
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