I want to finally buy a welding mask that fits under my autodarkening helmet. I currently am using a standard 3M 8212 mask. SEE LINK:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Box-Of-10-3M-Respirators-Welding-N95-3M-8212_W0QQitemZ200309520217QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Wo rk_Saftey_Apparel?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

I always smell the weld fumes through it. I also get a dry nose and irritation from welding with them. It is listed as being a welding mask, but it stinks!

Then I have an AO Safety twin cartridge respirator that blocks fumes and paint and works well while I weld, but I have to use the hand held shield mask for welding and don't have both hands to weld. It is too large to fit under my flip down auto darkening helmet. SEE LINK:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-in-Package-AO-Safety-Multi-Purpose-Respirator-Mask_W0QQitemZ290304358810QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Wo rk_Saftey_Apparel?hash=item290304358810&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

SO... I found this 3M welding resp. in the link below, but there 3 sizes offered -- small, medium, and large. I am 6'3" and 216 lbs. Should I order the large? What would you do? SEE LINK:

Amazon.com: 3M-7183 P100 BODYMAN RESP LRGE: Automotive

I know Tim has this one, and was wondering if it works well and fits under a typical auto darkening helmet?

Thanks guys!

SO... I found this 3M welding resp. in the link below, but there 3 sizes offered -- small, medium, and large. I am 6'3" and 216 lbs. Should I order the large? What would you do? SEE LINK:

Amazon.com: 3M-7183 P100 BODYMAN RESP LRGE: Automotive (http://www.amazon.com/3M-7183-P100-BODYMAN-RESP-LRGE/dp/B0013HBPZI/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1237636551&sr=1-5)

I know Tim has this one, and was wondering if it works well and fits under a typical auto darkening helmet?

Thanks guys!

This one should fit under your helmet... they work great for welding. Large is probably your best bet on size.

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I'd keep looking. the bodyman mask does not mention welding fumes.

I'd keep looking. the bodyman mask does not mention welding fumes.


It did mention welding fumes on TCP Global's site, and in a few ads on ebay (I know--not the best reference, but they did).

Strange... I will do some more checking into it though. You can never be too safe...

Thanks

If you are looking to eliminate the welding fumes, you will not find one to do that and fit under your Hood.

The second Respirator is the only one that MIGHT eliminate the fumes. The others are really just glorified Dust Mask.

Go to the NIOSH (National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health?) site for info.

Cartridges are color coded for use. If my declining memory serves, I believe you need a Yellow one for the Fumes

We get these from Grainger for when we weld stainless due to the Chromium... works OK I guess ?
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/productIndex.shtml?L2=Welding&operator=prodIndexRefinementSearch&originalValue=dust+mask&L1=Respirators%2C
http://images.grainger.com/B281_37/images/products/small/SMALL-4JG36.JPG

Or if you're really into it... http://images.grainger.com/B281_37/images/products/small/SMALL-4GM19.JPG

Todd,
I can tell you from experience that mask will fit under your hood. I use one similar to that all the time and it works great. 3M stuff is the cat's meow. The P100 is the filter that you need for welding fumes. That is straight from the 3m technical support line. The P100 is a particulate filter that is designed for welding. I use P100 cartridges that have an opening on the back side of the filter for the air to come in there. I know that 3M has a mask with the exhaust port is on the bottom side of the mask to direct your breath away from teh lense. You might want to look into one of those... I'll try to come up with a pic of it later, but my wife and I have dinner plans. Your safety is going ot have to wait until I get back from dinner... Sorry


Oh yeah, I am 6'4" 215 as well and I use a L mask...

Okay Todd so I'm back from dinner. I did a little research and found that it is this model...

3M Half Facepiece Respirator 7503/37083

Copy and paste that into a Google search and you will find that they are not that expensive, and they won't fog up your facesheild/welding hood because the exhaust port is on the bottom of the mask. I love mine and wear it all the time I am in the garage to protect me from all of the dust and badies floating around in the air...

Here is a pic... http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebserver?66666UuZjcFSLXTtlXfalx&tEV76EbHSHVs6EVs6E666666--

The P100 is the filter that you want, the fabric ones (pink in color I think) like in the first pic are actually designed to go under a welding helmet...

I am glad to see that other people are taking thier health seriously....

Todd , this one has you written ALL over it ! You could develop a whole new character !

http://images.grainger.com/B281_37/images/products/small/SMALL-4GM19.JPG

Todd , this one has you written ALL over it ! You could develop a whole new character !

http://images.grainger.com/B281_37/images/products/small/SMALL-4GM19.JPG


Terry

That is awesome! and I would love to look like a character from the video game Syphonfilter 2, or even Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell. Sweeeeeet!

Seriously though, I will be looking into a nicer set up for me. I have been honestly winging it with my 3M 8212 dust masks that claim they are for welding fumes (yeah right) .... Must think for the future... health first.

I saw that mask on line and it was about $2300 or something insane like that. ya know what though, when you think about the cost of lung cancer or a lung transplant, IT'S CHEAP right? Crazy to think about, but true...

Okay Todd so I'm back from dinner. I did a little research and found that it is this model...

3M Half Facepiece Respirator 7503/37083

Copy and paste that into a Google search and you will find that they are not that expensive, and they won't fog up your facesheild/welding hood because the exhaust port is on the bottom of the mask. I love mine and wear it all the time I am in the garage to protect me from all of the dust and badies floating around in the air...

Here is a pic... http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebserver?66666UuZjcFSLXTtlXfalx&tEV76EbHSHVs6EVs6E666666--

The P100 is the filter that you want, the fabric ones (pink in color I think) like in the first pic are actually designed to go under a welding helmet...

I am glad to see that other people are taking thier health seriously....


Stephen

THanks man! I will place the order today.... I found it on ebay for only $15 plus shipping. and another item for 6 pairs of filters for $19 plus shipping. Not bad at all considering the cost of a lung biopsy or transplant. (not funny this time) :sad:

Would you mind checking these to make sure? I am not sure which to get; 2091, 2096, or, 2097 P100 filters. They all say they are good for welding. ALSO.... which cartridges did you buy?


FILTERS:

http://cgi.ebay.com/2091-P100-Particulate-Filter-3M-Hepa-6-PACKAGES-OF-2_W0QQitemZ350181443281QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Work_ Saftey_Apparel?hash=item350181443281&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

and

THE MASK ITSELF:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=360138507431



again.... I now have these and they stink! I smell and taste the welding fumes.

http://cgi.ebay.com/3M-8212-N95-Particulate-Welding-Respirator-10-box-NEW_W0QQitemZ200314293164QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Wor k_Saftey_Apparel?hash=item200314293164&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

Todd, I am not so sure which one of those is the one that you want. I would suggest calling the 3M techline to ask whih one of the P100 is the one to use. It's a 1-800 number and they were really helpful when I called...I ended up talking more about my car than the filters, but the guy really got me going in the right direction.

I hope that this helps! Btw, I have that mask and I LOVE it!!!!! Easy to clean too!

You guys buy what you want, but don't mis lead him. The "Pink" is for Particulate Matter only and will NOT filter Fumes.

You guys buy what you want, but don't mis lead him. The "Pink" is for Particulate Matter only and will NOT filter Fumes.


Larry

Thanks for the concern. I will be calling 3M in the A.M. to be 10000% sure. I appreciate everyone's posts.

You guys buy what you want, but don't mis lead him. The "Pink" is for Particulate Matter only and will NOT filter Fumes.

I talked to the 3M rep at length about these filters. I am not saying that every pink filter that they make is the correct filter for welding....HOWEVER... teh 3M rep that I spoke to told me that the P100 filters are the correct filters for welding...
The reason that particulate filters are used is that when the molten metal vaporizes, as it does while welding, then hits the cold air, it changes from vapor to solids (i.e. particulates)...

I understand that you want to know what you are using. I do, that is why I called and talked to them myself.

I suggest that ANYONE who wants to use any producct, should call the manufacture and check for themselves.

I did not intentionally mislead anyone... check it for yourself.

I suggest that ANYONE who wants to use any producct, should call the manufacture and check for themselves.




For safety Items, x2.

I just purchased a welding respirator from my local Airgas store. They recommended the MSA 815700 half face mask with a 818342 cartridge. It's designed to wear under a welding helmet and both cost me under $20 although a pair of lungs can't be valued. I haven't used it yet and don't know how long the cartridge will last but thought I'd just put it out there for an option. I expect to use it in a day or two.

Open the doors to leta breeze through, it solves a good portion of the problem.

I just purchased a welding respirator from my local Airgas store. They recommended the MSA 815700 half face mask with a 818342 cartridge. It's designed to wear under a welding helmet and both cost me under $20 although a pair of lungs can't be valued. I haven't used it yet and don't know how long the cartridge will last but thought I'd just put it out there for an option. I expect to use it in a day or two.

Steve,

I appreciate the info. on that. Please let me know how you like it. Maybe I can find it locally or mail order it. --thanks!

Open the doors to leta breeze through, it solves a good portion of the problem.

******Is this the one? http://www.toolfetch.com/Cart.aspx



Joe,

I do open my two-car garage door and the side door every time I weld. I also have both ceiling fans on medium to help move it out. --thanks...

okay.... here goes.

I just called 3M's techline and talked to a rep who was an AWESOME HELP.

For my size, he recommended a large 3M 7503 half facepiece mask, with the P100 2097 "pink" filters. The series 2097 filters have a thin layer of carbon inside that blocks the metallic odors and ozone gas which smells rather nasty. He said that the minor exposure to the odors that I had will not cause permanent harm or injury--just some temporary discomfort/excess flegm, etc... and not to worry about it. I told him I was using the 3M 8212 welds basic welding "dust masks" for mig welding and they still allowed me to smell/taste the fumes. He said those are for quick welds in a highly ventilated area or in for use with an air extraction system. He said that they only block the metallic particulates within the fumes--not the odors since they do not have that carbon layer inside them like the P100 2097 filter models do.

Just wanted to help others out by relaying what I found. I am going to order up one of those bad boys (large- 7503 half facepiece masks) and (5) 2-packs of the p100 2097 filters, then I should be good-to-go for a while!:hurray:

*Larry-- You are right, the p100 2091 filters will not block the fumes--only the particulates. However, the p100- 2097 pink filters will block both the fumes and the particulates since they have the internal layer of carbon embedded within.

**Stephen--Thank you for your suggestion. The 7503 it is! :) Talk to you soon....
I appreciate everyone's input....and HAPPY AND HEALTHY WELDING TO ALL!!!!!! :D

I just purchased a welding respirator from my local Airgas store. They recommended the MSA 815700 half face mask with a 818342 cartridge. It's designed to wear under a welding helmet and both cost me under $20 although a pair of lungs can't be valued. I haven't used it yet and don't know how long the cartridge will last but thought I'd just put it out there for an option. I expect to use it in a day or two.

I used this respirator yesterday doing some spot welding with my MIG and it performed well. It was comfortable under the welding hood and I couldn't smell anything. Of coarse the mention to have adequate ventilation can't be understated.

I used this respirator yesterday doing some spot welding with my MIG and it performed well. It was comfortable under the welding hood and I couldn't smell anything. Of coarse the mention to have adequate ventilation can't be understated.


Steve

Sounds great. Glad it worked out.

I ended up ordering the 3M 7503 half facepiece mask with the 2097 filters that have the carbon layer in them to block the smells. It should be nice too based on what I have heard and learned.

Thanks...

Yeah I had been using the wrong kind of filters for a long time... well, they were the P-100 kind, but there are a BUNCH of P-100 filters... I bought the 3M 2097 filters and used them today....They are great for the application of welding and grinding and what not.... for realz... I love them, plus they don't interfere with your welding mask...

I am pretty safty consious and work with welders every day and weld myself on the job from time to time.I never see any welder on the job using a respirator and do not use one myself what is the effects welding fumes cause.I personaly just dont see the need and would earatate me more than breathing the fumes..jmo...

I am pretty safty consious and work with welders every day and weld myself on the job from time to time.I never see any welder on the job using a respirator and do not use one myself what is the effects welding fumes cause.I personaly just dont see the need and would earatate me more than breathing the fumes..jmo...

Dave

You may want to check out this link then....

http://www.canoshweb.org/odp/html/rp5.htm

Also, for your own benefit, do a google search of: Effects of welding fumes

Hopefully it will change your mind. Safety first. JMHO based on years of factual research on the web and in countless medical journals, etc....

How come you never see any old welders?



I am pretty safty consious and work with welders every day and weld myself on the job from time to time.I never see any welder on the job using a respirator and do not use one myself what is the effects welding fumes cause.I personaly just dont see the need and would earatate me more than breathing the fumes..jmo...

How many of you smoke cigarettes this will kill you long before welding will.I know a bunch of guys that are above 70 and still have all there parts and some of them get around better than me.How many of you eat fried food....

here's a link on effects of welding

http://www.asse.org/practicespecialties/articles/weldingfumes.php

Whoa, Dave... Simmadonnow... we just want to be safe and avoid some fumes. I have been smoke free for over 17 months (WHOO-HOO!). However, I still do not like to breathe the baddies from welding fumes. So I wear a respirator. Now I don't smell any of the nasties that come off that stuff. I am glad that those guys are healthy but I am not wolling to take that chance because cancer and heart probs run in my family and I am srsly at risk

Whoa, Dave... Simmadonnow... we just want to be safe and avoid some fumes. I have been smoke free for over 17 months (WHOO-HOO!). However, I still do not like to breathe the baddies from welding fumes. So I wear a respirator. Now I don't smell any of the nasties that come off that stuff. I am glad that those guys are healthy but I am not wolling to take that chance because cancer and heart probs run in my family and I am srsly at risk


Me too... Cancer has claimed many of my relatives, so I try to be as careful as possible now. You only get two lungs after all...

Well, some get lucky and get a third.... I know I'm not that lucky!

Well, some get lucky and get a third.... I know I'm not that lucky!


Yeah, an iron lung... ;)


No seriously guys, I just witnessed my grandmother slowly die from lung cancer. It was not pretty. Now she wasn't a welder of course, but she chose to smoke a few packs of Pall Mall's per day for many o' years. Protect yourself whenever you can. Your family will be grateful too...

I had one brother die at 51 and one 58 from the big C and it may come my way as well at least I will finaly lose some weight though.I just have a hard time with the respirator under the hood if its a must for some have at it. I don't think welding fumes will be your cause of death though I think we need to cut down on fatty foods for a start.