http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/130-1.jpg


Is this to high?

Not at all its pefect...

no
if the front a little lower

Very subjective question. It is all a matter of opinion. I personally likethem as low as possible.

Is it a 4x4?:D

I hate to say it but if its pro-street I think its a little high.I personaly don't like to see much tire...How much adjustment do you have left you can flip flop the lower shock mounts.But all said do you like it thats all that matters.
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15/davidcalligan/PICT0528.jpg

Is it a 4x4?:DThis should have a LOL after it it is all personal opinion 4x4 is a little harsh.....

This should have a LOL after it it is all personal opinion 4x4 is a little harsh..... Better yet wheres that stirring the pot symbol at :yes:... It dose look better lowered like Dave's.

At first I thought it looked good, but yes...
How tall are those tires?

Ok.I will lower to the top of the rim and post a new pic.
Thanks Guys

At first I thought it looked good, but yes...
How tall are those tires?

x2^.More sidewall and tucked under imho.

Tires are 29x12.5x15

Tony..seeing how this is posted in pro street..33x18 and a backhalf would be in order to fit that bill.
Imo..anything less is up to the individual and how they see the total package.
Anyhoo..dropping the ride height will look cool from the side and fill the wheel well up...but the Pro Street guys flat out rule from the rear with the steam rollers/wheelie bars and chutes in my honest opinion only.:)

29"? ok then, it needs to be lower. A lot lower (4"?) if you have room in the wheelwells.

I would lower it about 1" :thumbsup:
Did you cut the quarter panel to fit those tires ??

here is mine. this is a old pic. The car has settle some. I gotta take some new ones.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Matts01ES/leavinforinstall001a.jpg

It doesnt look to bad to me, but if it could come down a couple more inches.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj16/prostreet69camaro/DSC09755.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj16/prostreet69camaro/DSC09771.jpg

The reason I went with 29 tall tires is so I would not have to cut the wheel wells.I want bigger tires but also a back seat.

IMO. I like the height, as is.
But I'm old-school, I like a car 1 or 2 inches higher in the back.

Me too, but I still like 15" wheels. Still stuck in the 60s I guess. Bottom line, set it where YOU like it. If you build it based on some one else's ideas, you will always second guess yourself. JMO

Thanks for all the opinions guys.You can follow the build here.
Thanks Again
Tony
http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52736

Perfect height is the wheel well right even or a smidge above the top of the wheel, I think ride height is sooo important on builds in making or breaking the look of the car a few inches changes the whole atitude of the car!
I pretty much designed my car around the stance, of course im running air ride but had to cut my drive shaft tunnel out and build a new one for only 2"s of extra clearance but i think its worth it!

Looks good to me as is. It's only a 12.5 tire so i would not say it's pro street. If you lower it at all, i wouldn't go more than an inch.

I agree pro48.Could you post a pic of your build?
Thanks
Tony

Keep us posted on your ride sounds like a fun project!
Heres a few shots of my car still in mock up yet will be running differant wheels etc. but my tires are 33 x 19.5's

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/Fleetline48/Hood010.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/Fleetline48/Game167.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/Fleetline48/Game178-1.jpg

Heres a pic of my buddys 69 hes about finished with it aswell but its on air aswell!

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/Fleetline48/Festivalshow07020.jpg

I need help!! I've been told from ProTouring guys that because I don't have 17" wheels and fuel injection that I am not ProTouring. I posted on general restoration and received a reply that I am more pro-Street. Now I've been told that since my tires are only 12.5" wide, I am probably not pro-street. Will somebody help me find where I belong? LOL. Thanks guys!

Well if thats the ? thats any easy one!
Let see if i can help:
a true Pro Touring car is a car set up for corner carving, with at least a 17" wheel and over sized brakes sway bars etc and some are mini tubbed to fit the larger tire sizes not so much wheel diameter but tire sizes in general heres an example! but overall a pro touring is a car set up for ideal corner carving and usually big power with it. Like Fesler's car here.
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/Fleetline48/GoodGuys2008048-1.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/Fleetline48/GoodGuys2008047.jpg

Pro Street:
Like this has to be a narrowed rear end period! made up with usually larger tires over 14"s wide etc. Wheel tubs, thats the basic's of pro street some will argue you need blowers cage etc but a true pro street is a tubbed back half or tube chassis car.
Like such:

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/Fleetline48/Customcolummount074.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/Fleetline48/Customcolummount077.jpg

Modern Pro Street:
This consist of A back halfed pro street car that is running at least an 18"-20 Wheel on a newer style mickey radial with low profile sidewalls to it like these!
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/Fleetline48/Customcolummount099.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/Fleetline48/Customcolummount095.jpg

Im sure ive missed a few points but thats the basis for how they break down hope this helps!

Nice Rides and good answer.I guess mine is a 69 with a few changes.I sure like your friends 1st gen.really cool.

I know a few people with a 12" tire and mini tubbed and they kinda feel the same way not sure what they have!
My answer is you have a Bitchin ride and enjoy it. It's what id call a Street Machine pretty simple and good luck with your build and enjoy keep us posted.

I need help!! I've been told from ProTouring guys that because I don't have 17" wheels and fuel injection that I am not ProTouring. I posted on general restoration and received a reply that I am more pro-Street. Now I've been told that since my tires are only 12.5" wide, I am probably not pro-street. Will somebody help me find where I belong? LOL. Thanks guys!


The reason i said i don't believe it would be considered "pro street" is because ot the tire width. I consider "pro street" to have atleast a 14 inch wide tire. I didn't mean anything bad when i said it though. I'm sure everyone has there own "VIEW" of what pro street means.

33.0"x19.50"..........Not quite as low as Mike's Camaro(prostreet69camaro)......................

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff229/1969ProStreetCamaro/MVC-001F.jpg?t=1238370029

David F.

33.0"x19.50"..........Not quite as low as Mike's Camaro(prostreet69camaro)......................

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff229/1969ProStreetCamaro/MVC-001F.jpg?t=1238370029

David F. Man that sure looks bad a$$...:thumbsup: I haven't seen that picture before, i like.

Doug
I took no offence.I actually enjoyed the reply.My wife said my tires look like truck tires.I am enjoying this build and value every ones opinion.
Keep the cool pics coming :yes:

Doug
I took no offence.I actually enjoyed the reply.My wife said my tires look like truck tires.I am enjoying this build and value every ones opinion.
Keep the cool pics coming :yes:

Cool. Only reason i said what i did is because everyone was saying it need to be so low because it was pro street. I think it looks great right where you have it! My car has a 275/60/15 m/t et street radials so i'm not quite sure where it fits in either.:p

http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/engine.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/camaro.jpg

This is my car before the build

http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/engine.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/camaro.jpg

This is my car before the build
:thumbsup::thumbsup:

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn252/rat3j396/CamarosAugust2008010.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn252/rat3j396/CamarosAugust2008007.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn252/rat3j396/Feb2009072.jpg
This is about as low as I can go for street duty.

Tony. Here is a picture of my old 72 z/28 with a 12.5 tire. Sits about the same as yours in the back.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a194/385roller/2006_01121972camaroz280003.jpg

Tires are 29x12.5x15

That is the same size I run.

Here is my 67 race car...I'll be working on making it street legal. I'm happy with the ride height, but I also think that 69s look better when they're really low. JMO.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee48/racerj254/1967%20Camaro/eb941b7d.jpg?t=1239910845

Nice car Jerry

I think it could be a bit lower, like many I like em slammed. But the realities of street driving dictate what is doable.

Like you I "technically" don't fit in either PS or PT. But this is actually a good thing. I argue my car fits both.

Snap shot:
68 Camaro
632 BBC (not blown but twin 600's with Hilborn scoop out bonnet)
4 link rear with panhard
shortened 9" with 35 spline and detroit locker
17" rims allround
12" rims running 325 x 45 M&H Drag Radials (12.8" tire)
AME C5 front end (245 x 35 tyres)
4" ride height on adjustable coilovers
330mm discs on front, 315mm discs on rear

Bottom line is that it ticks some PT boxes and some PS boxes. I love both.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_3206.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_3203.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_3890.jpg

You have an awesome car and where you belong is on the road enjoying it, knowing it is yours and it's unique !!!

Nice car Jerry

Thanks, Jack.

I think it could be a bit lower, like many I like em slammed. But the realities of street driving dictate what is doable.

Like you I "technically" don't fit in either PS or PT. But this is actually a good thing. I argue my car fits both.

Snap shot:
68 Camaro
632 BBC (not blown but twin 600's with Hilborn scoop out bonnet)
4 link rear with panhard
shortened 9" with 35 spline and detroit locker
17" rims allround
12" rims running 325 x 45 M&H Drag Radials (12.8" tire)
AME C5 front end (245 x 35 tyres)
4" ride height on adjustable coilovers
330mm discs on front, 315mm discs on rear

Bottom line is that it ticks some PT boxes and some PS boxes. I love both.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_3206.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_3203.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_3890.jpg

You have an awesome car and where you belong is on the road enjoying it, knowing it is yours and it's unique !!!

MORE PICS OF THIS CAR PLEASE!!!!!!! WoW

MORE PICS OF THIS CAR PLEASE!!!!!!! WoW

More pics can be found here...
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=126900
rather than hijack this thread :)

Back from spring break.Back to work, but we are running into a lot of issues trying to use the leaf springs with the competition engineering factory replacement frame rails.Trying to keep the back seat,moving the frame rails in and trying to fit a 12 to 15 inch wide tire is a big order.I think we will spend next week scratching our heads

http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010028.jpg

Time for a 4-link!:yes:

I'm scratching my head with the thought of using leaf springs with a full chassis swap.

I was just trying to save a little money.

I e-mailed with Frank today at prodigy Customs.He has some ideas about getting us back on track.
A really cool guy
Thanks Frank

Frank
First I would like to say thanks for taking the time and interest to walk us through our build.My class likes the way the trunk is done in the red 69 so I guess we will go in that direction.
My first question is with our frame rails being 36 inches apart outside to outside is that ok? Or do we need to move them.
What four bar system do you suggest ?You mentioned going ahead with the tubs.Do I buy the extra wide tubs fron dse or the racing tubs from art morrison?
Thanks
Tony and the class

Here is my 67 race car...I'll be working on making it street legal. I'm happy with the ride height, but I also think that 69s look better when they're really low. JMO.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee48/racerj254/1967%20Camaro/eb941b7d.jpg?t=1239910845


My 70 is going to sit like that.

We decided to go with morrison TRI 4 bar set up.We are going to shorten the rearend 2 inches and add a back brace.We have the frame connectors in and ready to install the floor.
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010038.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010015.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010030.jpg

Engine and trans is back in the car so we can set the pinion angle.
we have installed the back brace and shorten the rear. Monday we will be back on track.

http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/Decorated%20images/P1010006-1.jpg

Should have the four bar finished by friday.
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010026.jpg

The art Morrison kit really fit good.
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010007-1.jpg

http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010004-2.jpg

Looks like I am going to be able to run 15 inch wide tires and keep my back seat.
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/uy.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010025.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010035.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010037.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/try.jpg

Looks great! Very nice work. Maybe I need to go out and round up a handful of high school kids and "teach" them how to work on cars. Sure seems like things go a lot faster that way. Seriously you have a good group of young men there, they seem to really be into it and want to learn.

Looking super! Keep up the great work!:thumbsup:

Doors came today from Belair Bobs.
Best Price.Great Service and most important great fit.http://www.camaros.net/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010022.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010021-1.jpg

Car looks good. I like it.

We are back on track
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010056.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010037-1.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010053.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/5-2.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/6-2.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P7200180.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P7200173.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010058.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010056.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/2-2.jpg

Great lookin' group!!!!!!!!! They are doing an excellent job on that Camaro:thumbsup::thumbsup:.
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/6-2.jpg

David F.

Sprayed some 3m schutz in the trunk today.going to spray some gloss back tomorrow under the hood.Any suggestions on sound deadner.Second skin (http://www.secondskinaudio.com/) or dynamat
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010097.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010103.jpg

We sprayed the dash and under the hood today.We decided to spray the top of the wheel wells with 3m schutz to add a little texture and set it off from the firewall.(Wrong) The fire wall looks good but the gloss black on the wheel wells over the schutz looks like trash under the paint and not textured.Should we spray flat black over the gloss or just scrape it all off and start over?
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010107.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010108.jpg

I would take it all off and spray it all seperate. It needs to be all glossy.

Nice Job your car! http://www.scaldinghot.com/Boardpics/applause.gif Looks like you have a good group of friends helping you out. :thumbsup:

Came in to school ,voted and decided to resand the fender
wells back down with 180 and repaint.Turned out that was a good Idea.All finished and looks good.
(off the subject) One thing I am realizing is that kids in general are good kids.They just need something they are interested in to keep them busy.And out of trouble.I have not written one discipline referral to the office since school has started.
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010003.jpg

Came in to school ,voted and decided to resand the fender
wells back down with 180 and repaint.Turned out that was a good Idea.All finished and looks good.
(off the subject) One thing I am realizing is that kids in general are good kids.They just need something they are interested in to keep them busy.And out of trouble.I have not written one discipline referral to the office since school has started.
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010003.jpg

Thats great. It does look alot better. Sounds like you have a great bunch of kids. At least they are into old muscle cars and not ricers. But to each his own....

Tony,
Are my eyes deceiving me.....or has the rear spoiler been "split" and recountoured to match the shape of the rear portion quarter panel ?????????....................
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010053.jpg

David F.

Yes we split it and refiberglassed it
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010058.jpg

Yes we split it and refiberglassed it
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww327/ttillman/P1010058.jpg

:thumbsup::thumbsup:. Great attention to the small details :cool:.

David F.