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MrMontana
Apr 17th, 09, 09:53 PM
Hey guys, trying to see if someone else can put thier mind to this problem and help me out. This is the problem:

Attempting to start my camaro, all I get is rapid clicking.. so I investigate.. the battery is putting out 11.7 volts (been stored all winter, battery in the warm house).. so I jump it with my other car.. (14.4 volts is now going to the starter) and she turns right over.. Perfect! I turn the second car off and try to start the camaro again while attached to the second cars battery still (12.6 volts this time going to the camaro starter).. she turns over but really slow and tired like.. (not how she normally rolls over).. I unhook the second car battery and try again (this time 11.7 volts going to the camaro starter again).. and just get the clicking... I checked to make sure the starter is engaging the flywheel and everything looks good there.. when the clicking occurs te starter is not turning at all.. (I inspected the starter teeth while the wife tried to turn it over ).. Oh and I almost forgot.. this is a brand new starter as I thought it was a starter issue in the first place because the exact same thing was happening to my old starter.. so now I have a brand spanking new one and the same issue continues.. any thoughts fellas?

Skeeter55
Apr 17th, 09, 09:57 PM
Could be bad positive and negative wires... Or just a bad ground..

Everett#2390
Apr 17th, 09, 10:06 PM
Put an external charger on the Camaro battery to charge it up. With 11.7 volts charge, battery is at 20% capacity if that much.

zlek131
Apr 17th, 09, 10:08 PM
Yes, check the ground but it sure sounds like a battery issue. The battery could be bad or not charged all the way. Put a charger on the battery overnight and see if the car starts the next morning after you disconnect the charger. If it does then it was a charging issue.

dnult
Apr 17th, 09, 10:44 PM
Get a digital volt meter. Connect a lead from the battery (+) post to the starter (+) post. Have a helper crank it and read the voltage. Do the same thing between the battery (-) and the starter case. In either case expect to see less than 1 or 2 volts drop at most. If you see more you have a bad connection somewhere.

How much battery voltage do you have during a crank? Batteries can go bad and show decent voltage at no load that plunges to nothing during the crank.

MrMontana
Apr 19th, 09, 04:05 PM
Ok guys, I went ahead and jumped it again with another battery and got it running, (dont have a bettery charger).. I let it run for about 20 min... the alternator was putting out 14.8 volts... turned it off and tried to start it on its own battery again.. nothing but clicks.. battery voltage was reading 11.8 volts at that moment.. Do you think its a bad battery? Just got the battery last year.. but maybe ?

Everett#2390
Apr 19th, 09, 04:51 PM
Battery is in a very low state of charge, as read by the charging voltage of 14.8 and a static state of 11.8 volts, up from 11.7 volts.

Since you have no charger, either take it to a shop and have them charge it, or buy a charger, then test again. The battery may have to be replaced as it may have sulphated, gotten a short between the plates, as it set for a long period of time without being charged/used.

zlek131
Apr 19th, 09, 05:13 PM
You can also take your battery to an Autozone and have them test it for you.

dnult
Apr 19th, 09, 08:24 PM
Get a good smart charger. I bouth one from Walmart a few years ago - mainly for the glass matt battery setting. I think I paid $40 for it. It will rappid charge up to 12amps and automatically float charge once the battery is topped off. Many of our cars sit for months. Batteries self discharge and can use a charge every couple of months. I leave it hooked up and just plug it in every so often or a day before I plan to use the car.

spideynut
Apr 20th, 09, 09:58 PM
Ditto all of the above . The cheap ones work perfect for this kind of thing.