This car appears to have been recently found.
Even if the rest of the car is as rusty as the door jamb, what would it be worth?

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m46/JamesESCA/123377N100001.jpg

wow .. need more pics !!!!!! and HOW SAD that the very FIRST camaro to be made. Remember this is Chevys answer to the Mustang you would of think they would of made a V8 Camaro as the VERY FIRST one !!

I wanna say that car is priceless but then again everything has a price !!!!!!

tag alone would be a few g's

Im crying in my coffee right now over the fact the first camaro produced was a 6 banger. :(

Ist cars of a new model off the assembly line are almost always a very base car with very few if any options. More complex cars (more options and features) come later as the lines get the kinks worked out.

any more info or pictures on the car?

Ist cars of a new model off the assembly line are almost always a very base car with very few if any options. More complex cars (more options and features) come later as the lines get the kinks worked out.

Ah yes, valid point. Which makes me think..if that car is a 6 cyl. with no options.... that would actually be kind of cool. Certainly unique beyond the fact that its the first one produced. More pics would be great.

didn't someone post a similar car thinking it was the oldest one so far .. it was a white one I believe ... it was also a plane jane and 6 banger to boot with hub caps but it ended in 000014 or something. Someone throw me a bone to make me think Im not going crazy or had a weird dreamn or something.

Is it really the first Camaro or is it the first Camaro built at that plant? I thought each plant started each year at 0001 so maybe it's really not the first one. I also thought I read over at CRG that sometimes cars did not come down in the line sequentially based on options etc. So there might have been another one that was first but had a higher sequence number.

The low number is very cool however. Doubt it would bring the money that Rick Hendrick paid for the first two of the new ones but very cool nonetheless. Should definitely be worth more than your standard 6 cyl car though.

This car appears to have been recently found.
Even if the rest of the car is as rusty as the door jamb, what would it be worth?

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m46/JamesESCA/123377N100001.jpg So stop teasing us and tell us where you got the picture and what other info there is about this car.

So stop teasing us and tell us where you got the picture and what other info there is about this car.
Sorry guys, it's not my find and thats all I know so far.
I will invite the current owner over to Team Camaro so we can all find out more.

So what do you think it might sell for once fully restored?
Here is the LA built Fisher body #001 VIN #16 that sold at Barrett Jackson for 75K+, I am thinking this one would be worth more (fully restored).

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/lotdetails.aspx?aid=221&ln=1029&pop=0&it=1

Here is the LA built Fisher body #001 VIN #16 that sold at Barrett Jackson for 75K+, I am thinking this one would be worth more (fully restored).

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/lotdetails.aspx?aid=221&ln=1029&pop=0&it=1

thats the one I said in the post above .. so I was off by 2 cars .. give me some credit .. lol

Oh man I was curious to see what other replies have been made since mine earlier today just to see that NONE have been posted since.

WOW you would think that a 67 car #00001 would be the talk of the town here, but obviously its not. I bet if was 1969 camaro #000001 it would probably have 69 replies by now. oh well.

Rob, it was a nice weekend :) The poster wanted to know what it is worth now. That all depends on what is still there and how rusty the whole car is. We dont have enough info to really make the price. There would be a big difference between a rusty car, but everything was there, vs a rusty shell. having the born with drivetrain will also effect price a lot since it is the first Camaro. Then once we have the that info, we can tack on the WOW factor for it being 0001 to our guesses :D

That car is probably extremely rotted out or we would probably see more pictures. Having said that, it would be an incredible car to have and one that GM should have in it's Heritage Center. Too bad they have no money or time to pursue such a car.

Its not that bad, it was turned into a drag car sometime in the past, it has been tubbed, has a flip front end on it, full roll cage, etc. Not much left of it that original except the rear tub and tags.

Car was originally gold according to the cowl tag, and is white now with a pair or rally stripes on the rear deck, and typical drag race car grpahics on the front and sides.

Its not that bad, it was turned into a drag car sometime in the past, it has been tubbed, has a flip front end on it, full roll cage, etc. Not much left of it that original except the rear tub and tags..


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Its not that bad, it was turned into a drag car sometime in the past, it has been tubbed, has a flip front end on it, full roll cage, etc. Not much left of it that original except the rear tub and tags.

Car was originally gold according to the cowl tag, and is white now with a pair or rally stripes on the rear deck, and typical drag race car graphics on the front and sides.
Now there's a dilemma restore it original or keep it in it's race trim. Much depends on it's racing history but the fact that it's born with driveline is long gone would have to be a factor also. If I had the funds to have one of the local RTE or Pro Stock cars from the early 70's I would keep it in it's race trim.

Jeff

Its not that bad, it was turned into a drag car sometime in the past, it has been tubbed, has a flip front end on it, full roll cage, etc. Not much left of it that original except the rear tub and tags.

Car was originally gold according to the cowl tag, and is white now with a pair or rally stripes on the rear deck, and typical drag race car grpahics on the front and sides.

NO !! poor car. when my friend wanted to buy my 71 and it was in perfect shape he told me he was gonna to tub it and roll cage it ... I told him "No im sorry im not going to sell it to you now" . and I didn't

Some of the first ads in late 1966 were for the Hugger a plain Jane 6 banger with bumble bee stripe.
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Here is that other car you guys were talking about. A low vin plane jane. Sold At Barrett Jackson.
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This is a VERY interesting and valuable car. Please make sure your friend joins us here... my $.02 would be that if he is looking to sell the car he would probably be better off selling it "as is" instead of starting a "flip this car" restoration. He won't have to spend time explaining that the drivetrian is not original etc. etc. I assume that because this thread was started here the goal is to sell... Just sell it for what it is... Whoever purchases the car will then have the money to give this camaro the treatment it deserves.

Some of the first ads in late 1966 were for the Hugger a plain Jane 6 banger with bumble bee stripe.
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They must have the trunk loaded with sand bags...

This is a VERY interesting and valuable car. Please make sure your friend joins us here... my $.02 would be that if he is looking to sell the car he would probably be better off selling it "as is" instead of starting a "flip this car" restoration.

Just to be perfectly clear, I don't know the owner or what his intentions are. He has not posted any more information, perhaps he has been inundated by the collector car community or he is just busy.

I posted because I also believe this to be a "VERY interesting and valuable car".

No one, so far, has thrown out a number of what this car might be worth when fully restored.

If a 1 of 1 1968 Z/28 Convertible is worth more than $1,000,000 and a #16 built Plain Jane is worth $75,000 Then what is the very first production of a legendary car worth, even as a 6 cylinder coupe?

This car deserves to sit in a museum some place, I think it's worth low 6 figures, in the $150,000 range. What do you think?

OK, imagine me holding my breath looking at that VIN... I met a lady a week ago who claims to have purchased the first Camaro out of the Van Nuys plant. I was doubting her at first but as she kept talking about her husband worked there, and they came out and interviewed her for the news, I believed her. Wow, I would love for this car to be a Van Nuys car. that would have been hers. Also, it doesn't matter that it's a 6 cyl. I can't even imagine what this car is worth if it's legit.

What is the lowest production number of a 68 or 69 camaro that anyone knows of?

What is the lowest production number of a 68 or 69 camaro that anyone knows of?

If I understand it correctly, my 68 is LOS 00055, built 5th week Aug 1967, convertible also.

James dug that up in "HwyStarJoe's" Back Yard - LOL

I would think that the history is part of that car, and a serious collector (ok we are all serious :D) would give a large sum just as it sits. If it were mine I would not sell.

I've been wondering if we were going to hear some more about old #1?

"it better be worth 6 figures or we are going underground with it for another decade"

Does anyone have a 68 lower than #55? How about a low number 69? I am curious with the BJ auction of thunderbird #1 that brought so much.

Get it out of the weather for starters. Lets us know, I want it.

Does anyone have a 68 lower than #55? How about a low number 69? I am curious with the BJ auction of thunderbird #1 that brought so much.

Here is a low number 69.. It was NOR 500032. The car was at PPG Nationals in Columbus Ohio this year. I could not get a good picture of the VIN due to shadows. I talked to the owner and he did not realize it was such an early production car.


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a130/z282nv/2009GoodguysPPGNationals015.jpg

That car is probably extremely rotted out or we would probably see more pictures. Having said that, it would be an incredible car to have and one that GM should have in it's Heritage Center. Too bad they have no money or time to pursue such a car.


The Car is not rusted out. Has a few pinholes in the quarters and some surface rust. Rockers are in great shape! No motor or tranny, I am trying to find the original owner to see if they have the parts!!!!!!!!! Car is in great shape for its age!!!!!!!!!

JS

The Car is not rusted out. Has a few pinholes in the quarters and some surface rust. Rockers are in great shape! No motor or tranny, I am trying to find the original owner to see if they have the parts!!!!!!!!! Car is in great shape for its age!!!!!!!!!

JS
Great!

I see this is your first post, so welcome to Team Camaro.

Please tell us more about your car.

WOW!!!...great thread!!....welcome to team camaro, we are all waiting for more information. this is really neat stuff!!!!

Back in April MarkC hinted around that he had info on this car too and then clammed up. Now "JS" shows up with a couple short sentences and nothing more and has no profile & lists his location as "north America" Come on guys. If it's a big secret then stop teasing us & playing games and tell us about the car, post pics, etc. Is this whole thread nothing more than the drumroll to get the crowd interested so it can pop up on a BJ auction or what ?

The Car is not rusted out. Has a few pinholes in the quarters and some surface rust. Rockers are in great shape! No motor or tranny, I am trying to find the original owner to see if they have the parts!!!!!!!!! Car is in great shape for its age!!!!!!!!!

JS


Well that's great! Let's see those pics!!!

Back in April MarkC hinted around that he had info on this car too and then clammed up. Now "JS" shows up with a couple short sentences and nothing more and has no profile & lists his location as "north America" Come on guys. If it's a big secret then stop teasing us & playing games and tell us about the car, post pics, etc. Is this whole thread nothing more than the drumroll to get the crowd interested so it can pop up on a BJ auction or what ?


I'd like to see pics of the car in the condition it was in when the door jam pic was taken. Why no pics of the rest of the body, especially since it's apparently in "great shape for it's age".

X2 :popcorn:

if pics of this car actually shows up, beer on me. I think I posted on a thread like this about a lady I met. I was sitting on the patio of a Mexican restaurant and noticed she was really looking at my car. We struck up a conversation; she (and others she was with) claims they got the first Camaro from the Van Nuys plant. She was very believable because she knew a lot about the plant. I think she said the car was white. She says she and her husband got their picture in the paper and what-not. she actually got a little misty eyed talking about that car.

On the same subject, maybe someone can help me understand something. Car number 00031 showed on ebay recently with a build date of 09B an mine, which is 00068 has a build date of 08A, both Norwood cars. I PMed Kurt on that and haven't had an answer yet.

by the way, here is the ebay link for car 00031
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1st-PRODUCTION-Camaro-Convertible-EVER-1967-Chevrolet_W0QQitemZ320397575413QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ US_Cars_Trucks?hash=item4a992f04f5&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

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I'm guessing there is no car.

There was an 1968 magazine article on new Corvettes where they showed the new cars off the line. The engineers took these cars on a big road trip to test quality and de-bug the cars. There was about 10 of them and they had a bunch of equipment in the pass side some of it looked to be bolted on to the dash. They took these cars all over the country through hot/cold, hi/low elevation etc. They looked like complete production cars not test mules but I don't know if these cars had vin. no. and trim tags.

My point is that I wonder if the first cars off the line were ever sold to the public or were they used as engineering fleet cars? I have read that engineering had a large fleet of cars but not sure if these cars all had vin. no and trim tags like a production car.

The first 1970 Camaro is said to have been found at Smokey Yunick's shop.
Here is a post on it........

"I am the owner of the first 1970 Camaro to be produced at the Norwood plant (Nov. 69). I bought the car years ago from Smokey Yunick. The VIN is: 123870N500001 and yes I know that is a six cylinder car. However, my car was sent immediately to the GM proving Grounds (Chevrolet Engineering) and became a test bed for many of the racing options. It was then sent to Smokey Yunick and he was instructed to run tests on all of the various components for homologation of 70 and 71 racecars. The FIA required that all sedan-based racecars to be eligible for FIA Groups I and II racing have the major components be certified as "production" items of Service replacement item available "over the counter"
I am interested in getting any further information on this and other similar cars."

There is a car, I have pictures of it, it's VIN and cowl tag but they were not sent directly to me by the owner so I'm not going to post them unless they say its OK. It was a 6cylider originally. The car is/was at the time a strip car painted white with blue side panels, with a tilt front end, shortened rear axle with ladder bars going forward to the subframe. Its been tubbed to fit slicks (would guess they are probably 14 to 16" wide). No pictures of the interior, but it must have a cage in it. No motor, trans and cant tell if its a GM or Ford rear axle.

I don't even know where the car is, although the pictures make it look like its in a typical California/Arizona style subdivision.

Sounds like it needs inners, outers, full floor, full trunk and rails.

.I think my 67 was an early build..Is it the last 5 DIGITS or 6 for the production #..??

.I think my 67 was an early build..Is it the last 5 DIGITS or 6 for the production #..??

Tommy, speaking of numbers what does your screen name mean ?

666 Is the # on my car when I take it to the RACE TRACK...the " NUMBER OF THE BEAST "..!! and the legend part...well..?? thats an inside joke...

http://www.delvalracing.net/board/uploads/post-29-1256414014_thumb.jpg

The first 1970 Camaro is said to have been found at Smokey Yunick's shop.
Here is a post on it........

"I am the owner of the first 1970 Camaro to be produced at the Norwood plant (Nov. 69). I bought the car years ago from Smokey Yunick. The VIN is: 123870N500001 and yes I know that is a six cylinder car. However, my car was sent immediately to the GM proving Grounds (Chevrolet Engineering) and became a test bed for many of the racing options. It was then sent to Smokey Yunick and he was instructed to run tests on all of the various components for homologation of 70 and 71 racecars. The FIA required that all sedan-based racecars to be eligible for FIA Groups I and II racing have the major components be certified as "production" items of Service replacement item available "over the counter"
I am interested in getting any further information on this and other similar cars." I remember an old magazine article many years ago about the auction at Smokeys shop and if I remember correctly this car had a 302 in it at one time also. Smokeys auction turned up all kinds of super rare one off parts like factory smallblock tri-power intakes, etc. I wonder where that stuff is today.

Even if it is the first car produced and tagged at Norwood, without any of the original drivetrain, I fail to see how it is worth so much. Where is anyone going to find a date correct engine, trans and axle to restore it to anywhere near it's original build ? Sorry, but in it's current state, it doesn't excite me much or urge me to get a 2nd mortgage to purchase it.....:sad:

Good point Mitch.
( and welcome back to TC )

I think it still has high value. I can't imagine some big-time collector not wanting that car.

The value is in the tags, not what's left of that body. If another early build 6 cylinder car were located as a donor to restore it to near original condition, it could be worth a bunch. Or, as I suspect could happen, the tags will migrate to an already complete car. The unwillingness to post more pics and info to identify it as is now against the finished product only supports my suspicion. If everyone exclaims it's worth over 100k and there is interested buyers, then it becomes obvious that it is worth spending big money on a "restoration". Most other 6 cylinder cars won't return the investment.

You're going to have to ban him permanently. He came on a GTO forum I visit and spammed EVERY thread !!!:mad:

You're going to have to ban him permanently. He came on a GTO forum I visit and spammed EVERY thread !!!:mad: Who are you talking about ?

Who are you talking about ?
2 posts above...honzou...something. The quote button is gone, so I couldn't bring his post into mine. He's just here to advertise his crap. He's back over at the GTO forum again too....:sad: