: one more try... generator light on
jus4funn68 Apr 20th, 09, 08:47 PM Ok guys, Ive ask about this a few months ago and I have read some back threads and there never seems to be a definative answer. Here goes. With the switch in the OFF postion the gen light is on very dim. I unhooked the battery but when I hook the battery up, sometimes I can hear the VR vibrating and the gen light is on. I can unhook the 2 wire plug on the back of the alternator and the light will go out. I can unhook the ground from the VR and the vibrating stops. When I touch the small ground wire on the VR to the rad support, it sparks. All this with the switch in the OFF postion. Ive put 3 VR's on it, and 3 alternators. This one problem is kicking my butt.
Everett#2390 Apr 20th, 09, 10:41 PM I would compare wiring between the Chevelle and Camaro as they are the same, if both are equipped with ext VR. In fact, you could swap parts between the two cars to help isolate, but only after checking wiring and being sure the two cars have the same voltage readings on all wiring with the key off.
jus4funn68 Apr 20th, 09, 10:48 PM that would have been a good idea but I just sold the chevelle so that option is not here anymore.
Everett#2390 Apr 20th, 09, 10:55 PM Waht is the voltage difference between the VR chassis and rad support without the ground strap?
Gen light wire, brown?, may be in the wrong place from ignition switch.
Definitely should check the terminated ends of wires fromt he VR to the rest of the car.
One lead will have battery voltage as it is connected to battery and BAT on the alt.
jus4funn68 Apr 21st, 09, 09:48 AM everett thanks for the help but.... when it comes to electrical issues, you have to spell it out for me. I need to know details of exactly you need for me to do. When you tell me to check the voltage between the chassis and rad support, Im not clear what Im suppose to do. I didnt know there was current between them??? Im electrically challenged!!! lol
Aaron67 Apr 21st, 09, 02:13 PM just throwing this in there.... i'd switch to a wells 715 electronic regulator for two reasons. one, no adjustments necessary. and two, it does a MUCH better job of sustaining the correct voltage level throughout the RPM range, it's better for battery life.
jus4funn68 Apr 21st, 09, 05:07 PM Ok guys, here is the what I did. I took the VR off and installed an electronic one. And I found a ground wire that goes to the dash that didnt seem to be very secure. After doing those two thing, I noticed the gen light burning while the car was idling in the garage but after going for a ride, the light went out and stayed out. Have I fixed it or am I just lucky right now?
dnult Apr 21st, 09, 06:02 PM the OEM alternator didn't put out very much and the light would come on at low RPMs. Sometimes once you zap the throttle and get it spun up, the light would go out and stay out. It really depended on your idle speed. Sounds to me like it may be fixed.
When you said the light was on with the ignition off, I was corn-fused though. That should not happen under any circumstance or else your ignition switch or wiring is suspect.
Everett#2390 Apr 21st, 09, 06:07 PM Very good. As dnult suggests, 'You be fixed!'
Now, will the battery be dead tomorrow morning?........only the Shadow knows...........
jus4funn68 Apr 21st, 09, 09:19 PM Everett, that is exactly what I was thinking, I left everything hooked up tonight, VR, alternator, etc. The battery in new so if it is dead in the morning, Ill have to keep looking. Thanks for all t he help guys.
dnult Apr 21st, 09, 09:36 PM If it is, let us know. There is a simple trick you can do with a test lamp to find a drain. I hope your good.
jus4funn68 Apr 23rd, 09, 06:38 PM Ok guys, not so good after all, so this is what Ive done now. Next day, dead battery. I charged the battery real good, unhooked the charger and started looking for a problem. I disconected the ground wire from the battery and rad support, put a test light between the battery and ground wire. Light came on as you would expect. I pulled every fuse, no luck. Unplugged every wiring connection that I could find ( coil, oil sending unit, temp sending unit, etc.) nothing. I unhooked the wiring harness to the VR and no change. Unhooked the 2 wire harness to the alt. an nothing but then I noticed something. The alternator was very warm from when the charger was hooked up I guess. I unhooked the hot wire to the alternator and the test light went out. I temporarily hooked up another alternator and the test light stayed out. The one that was on the car was new... internal ground maybe??? Can bad diodes do all this??
Everett#2390 Apr 23rd, 09, 08:08 PM A shorted diode will discharge the battery.
The test alternator, was it connected to ground/engine during this test?
dnult Apr 23rd, 09, 08:09 PM Sounds like a shorted diode inside the alternator. Any chance the battery was hooked up backwards at some point or jumped backwards?
jus4funn68 Apr 24th, 09, 12:58 PM yes everett I did have the test alt. grounded with a jumper. Ive switched out the alternator and hooked the mechanical VR back up and all is well. No shorts now. Thanks for all the help.
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