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: 1969 DZ302 engine


4371roy
Apr 23rd, 09, 02:55 PM
Have a 1969 DZ 302 engine , carb to pan. It was running great when removed from a SS camaro. Has about 75K on it. What do you think I should sell it for?

Vintage 68
Apr 23rd, 09, 03:03 PM
Depends on condition and the amount of original parts...
Does it have any factory markings?
Are the casting dates in-line with each other?
All of these will determine the actual worth and asking price range.

Gambitt
Apr 23rd, 09, 03:03 PM
What's the vin number?

4371roy
Apr 23rd, 09, 03:49 PM
Most of the parts are original to include the carb. The marking are perfect in line. I have looked hard at the pad by the oil filter for the vin but, I can't see anything. On the engine pad it reads V1021DZ.

3forme
Apr 23rd, 09, 06:56 PM
4-5k?

mrmuncie
Apr 23rd, 09, 07:03 PM
5k would be too cheep. I would wait till the ecomy comes back and put on ebay. I would think 6 to7K.

If you can produce the vin number post on CRG. You never know the car might be waiting to be reunited with it's born with engine.

buenymayor
Apr 23rd, 09, 09:45 PM
Look for the VIN stamped down by the oil filter.

drdave69
Apr 24th, 09, 05:10 AM
Since it is an October build, the vin should be on the pad if it is Oct. 1968. If it is Oct. 1969 it should be by the oil filter boss. What is the casting date and block casting number?

SPARKY69
Apr 24th, 09, 05:12 AM
3k all 100.00 bills...

4371roy
Apr 24th, 09, 09:47 AM
The stamp on the back of the block is, 3970010, I209. I looked again by the oil filter and can't see any numbers.

3rail
Apr 24th, 09, 09:58 AM
Not to be a wise guy but what was a DZ302 doing in a "SS" Camaro? Seems kind of an odd replacement engine for a SS. I apologize in advance for being a jerk.

4371roy
Apr 24th, 09, 10:32 AM
The 350 that was in the SS was worn out, rather than try and rebuild it he had a DZ 302 he put in it. He now has a 468 in it so the DZ 302 is for sale.

Jonesy
Apr 24th, 09, 01:46 PM
Lets see, a Sept 20, 1969 cast block, built a month later (V1021DZ) seems to be a little far apart. Do you have pics of the stamping? That would better verify it.

4371roy
Apr 24th, 09, 01:51 PM
Strange , I have been told for the time frame a month aport is just fine.

69Z28-RS
Apr 24th, 09, 03:01 PM
There are no hard and fast rules other than the engine has to be cast before it can be 'assembled'... :) . My 302 was cast on 26August and assembled one day later on 27August 1969.....

BelAirBob
Apr 24th, 09, 03:13 PM
Me too....Mine was cast October 20, 69' and pad stamp is 10 21.

Vintage 68
Apr 24th, 09, 03:20 PM
Strange , I have been told for the time frame a month aport is just fine.

My first response to a statement like that would be "by whom"...
I have to agree with Mike (jonesy) - it would seem a tad 'funny' to see that big a split in most cases.
To Flint that was nothing more than a 4" casting when it arrived at the line for machine work and would have been sequenced in with all the other 4" blocks moving down the line.
It might have become any old 350 or an LT-1, but for the fact that is was one block in the line before or later than another.
No reason to set a "Z" block off to the side :D
As FIFO was a standard procedure in this, as well as other GM plants, even then it would be the outside exception (and definiately not 'the rule') to have wide date gaps in most engine assemblies. Specially for this late a production unit in a model run, where final production staging was well in hand and demands well known...
All that is not to say 'it couldn't happen' in rare cases - but it does make folks go "Hummmmm" ;)

Lets see, a Sept 20, 1969 cast block, built a month later (V1021DZ) seems to be a little far apart. Do you have pics of the stamping? That would better verify it.

Please post a picture of the suffix pad and the casting date if possible - this may help clear up some of the questions and provide you with solid inoformation to go on.

69RS/Z28
Apr 24th, 09, 04:26 PM
I have a 10C built Z/28. What are the chances, right???

4371roy
Apr 24th, 09, 04:31 PM
How do you post a picture?

69RS/Z28
Apr 24th, 09, 06:22 PM
I have a '69 Z built 10C - what do you think the chances are????

4371roy
Apr 24th, 09, 06:33 PM
OK, I have to ask for every ones forgiveness here, the guy I got the engine came over and showed me that I was reading the date wrong, it is J209, insteed of I209, he took a wire bursh and cleaned it off and it shows very well to be a J209. I took some pictures but, thy came out like crap, will take more. I guess this makes it better now, right?

Jonesy
Apr 24th, 09, 07:15 PM
Strange , I have been told for the time frame a month aport is just fine.

I am speaking specifically for 69 Camaros, not any other year or Chevrolet model.
1 month between cast and build is not the norm, most are within days.

I am sure you can find true examples that are outside the norm. Mostly HP big blocks and other rare or lower produced engines.

If it is indeed J 20 9 then that makes more sense. However, a picture of the pad would nail it.

If you have a digital camera, there is usually a flower symbol. If you set the camera where the flower symbol is enacted, this will allow the camera to focus in on closer shots and allow you to get a pic of the pad.

4371roy
Apr 24th, 09, 07:16 PM
Whant to think every one for their help on this issue. I think I will go ahead and put it up for sale. I will wait and see if any one on here want's it befor I post it.

RamAirDave
Apr 24th, 09, 07:24 PM
1 month between cast and build is not the norm, most are within days.

I am sure you can find true examples that are outside the norm.

I'm not a subscriber to the "anything could've happened" theory, but I've seen a legit 0729DZ, E229 cast (670xxx VIN). Go figure, could be the low prod of July.