just looked at a 1968 Camaro that had a

New GM Crate Engine,
light Cam,
ceramic Headers,
rebiult 350 trans,
NO AC,
new front end,
front Disc breaks,
power steering,
power brakes,
very nice hounds tooth interior,
AM /FM after market Cassette,
all working guages,
no rust,
Shift Kit.
1200 miles on new engine.
New floor pans,
new trunk pan

Can you guys estimate a value? Here are the pics. The owner said he wants to sell for 25k. I was thinking 23k max. What do you guys think?



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If it runs and drives as good as it looks, I think the asking price seems pretty reasonable. It you can get it for $23K, that would be even better.

Does everything line up, nice body? Were the floor pans, etc installed correctly/decently? Does he have paperwork on the motor? I think your right on value, maybe a touch high if your looking for a deal, but 23k max is what I would put it at as well.

He has all the paperwork and yes it is all in perfect condition. He agreed to sell for 23k. Here is the catch, I am financing part of the cost through a private lender and the lender requires a TITLE. THe owner only has a bill of sale for when he purchased the vehicle, no title. Do you guys know how to get around this? Or how to quickly get a title replacement? Has anyone had experience with this?

The car was just on ebay (AUCTION 150338791036) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-Camaro_W0QQitemZ150338791036QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_ Cars_Trucks?hash=item150338791036&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A13%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318) and barely made it over 15k. I wouldn't offer much more than that to be honest. Any time I see standard door panels and deluxe seats (or vice versa), this throws up a big red flag. I always ask myself, "What else has been thrown together on this car?"

Ed

The car was just on ebay (AUCTION 150338791036) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-Camaro_W0QQitemZ150338791036QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_ Cars_Trucks?hash=item150338791036&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A13%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318) and barely made it over 15k. I wouldn't offer much more than that to be honest. Any time I see standard door panels and deluxe seats (or vice versa), this throws up a big red flag. I always ask myself, "What else has been thrown together on this car?"

Ed

Camaros are not really selling well on ebay because you cant actually inspect the vehicle. 15k is way less than what the car is worth. It is in basically brand new condition. 15k is the Gold Book "average" value. THis car is way above average. 23k is a good deal.

Camaros are not really selling well on ebay because you cant actually inspect the vehicle. 15k is way less than what the car is worth. It is in basically brand new condition. 15k is the Gold Book "average" value. THis car is way above average. 23k is a good deal.

If you already had your mind made up, why did you ask for opinions???

It's a buyers market right now and ALL cars are down anywhere from 10 to 50 percent from just a year ago. If you believe the car to be worth 23k, then buy it. It makes me no nevermind. This is exactly why I never post in the "What's it worth" section. I tend to p!$$ people off.

Ed

If you already had your mind made up, why did you ask for opinions???

It's a buyers market right now and ALL cars are down anywhere from 10 to 50 percent from just a year ago. If you believe the car to be worth 23k, then buy it. It makes me no nevermind. This is exactly why I never post in the "What's it worth" section. I tend to p!$$ people off.

Ed

You didn't piss me off, I just wish you could see the car in person. I understand where you are coming from, the market is down and prices are down. I do appreciate your input.

I agree that the car looks nice on the outside, but there are some odd things seat covers, Tach on an auto car, steering wheel etc. A deeper look would be wise. I have seen plenty of cars that lok new on the outside, but inside they are rusted out or full of holes like swiss cheese. Like always buyer beware and try to get pictures of the build. Some time you can luck out and get a great deal, and sometimes not so lucky. A thorough investigation is what makes for a good purchase.

I agree that the car looks nice on the outside, but there are some odd things seat covers, Tach on an auto car, steering wheel etc. A deeper look would be wise. I have seen plenty of cars that lok new on the outside, but inside they are rusted out or full of holes like swiss cheese. Like always buyer beware and try to get pictures of the build. Some time you can luck out and get a great deal, and sometimes not so lucky. A thorough investigation is what makes for a good purchase.

I went and checked it out Yesterday. Amazing condition, whole car was stripped down and sand blasted. Interior is awesome.

... buyer beware and try to get pictures of the build....

he has before and after pics. put a lot of work into the car

.... the owner only has a bill of sale for when he purchased the vehicle, no title. Do you guys know how to get around this? Or how to quickly get a title replacement? Has anyone had experience with this?...

Anybody know how to get around the NO TITLE situation so my financer will fincance the vehilce?

http://www.broadwaytitle.com/about.htm

http://www.cartitlesforsale.com/

Never used either of these, but a lot of street rod/traditional guys use Broadway.
Herse a post from the H.A.M.B. that discusses title services, and has a few more options for you:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=354551&highlight=broadway+title
Look at post # 19, discusses Ga.

Anybody know how to get around the NO TITLE situation so my financer will fincance the vehilce?
Have the current registered owner apply for a new title at the DMV.

without a title? is it from a state where it is not required if 74 or older? im not sure, but that brings the value down a touch in my opinion. i will say, i sold my 67 rs/ss not in near nice condition, but dayumn nice for 19k last summer. here is a pic of it...

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Beautiful car, was it all original engine and trans? What are the specs?

without a title? is it from a state where it is not required if 74 or older? im not sure, but that brings the value down a touch in my opinion. i will say, i sold my 67 rs/ss not in near nice condition, but dayumn nice for 19k last summer. here is a pic of it...


Yeah, in GA you do not need a title for old vehicles.

Beautiful car, was it all original engine and trans? What are the specs?
Not original motor (GM Crate Motor 1969 from Mexico) The car was from New Mexico. Not original tranny (from 69 as well m20). 12 bolt was the original. It had good cruise show paint job, very nice but some flaws in the paint. The interior was a bench seat (not original) covered in man-made leather. The engine was clean, but not detailed.

Yeah, in GA you do not need a title for old vehicles.
Every state is different. For 1968, GA is a "title optional" state. You can get one, but don't need one.
Every lender is going to want to retain ownership untill the loan is satisfied. Holding title is the easiest way for them to do that.
Have the seller get a title, find a lender that will work around not having a title, or pay cash for the car.
It's really that simple.

Nice car, but I think 23K is top dollar for that car.

23k might be at the top of what people on the forum might offer, but what is it worth to you? If it's everything you've wanted and the car is solid, then it's probably worth it to you to pay 23-25k. There have been two deals that I have passed up because of a 1k difference. I regret not purchasing either one of them.

show up with a cashier's check for 15k, have a few thousand cash in your pocket and bring a friend who and give him/her a couple thou to hold....you never know....its all in the haggle

Sorry...but in this market,that car's worth $18k,maybe $20k tops.

Not original motor (GM Crate Motor 1969 from Mexico) The car was from New Mexico. Not original tranny (from 69 as well m20). 12 bolt was the original. It had good cruise show paint job, very nice but some flaws in the paint. The interior was a bench seat (not original) covered in man-made leather. The engine was clean, but not detailed.


Are you sure 12 bolt is original? Thought these were limited to BBC and Z28 cars. With little items not adding up, not sure worth 23K in today's market.

Sorry...but in this market,that car's worth $18k,maybe $20k tops.

I would agree. I bought my 67 RallySport in very similar condition in 2004 when the car market was very strong and paid 23k. And i overpaid then.

Are you sure 12 bolt is original? Thought these were limited to BBC and Z28 cars. With little items not adding up, not sure worth 23K in today's market.
I am sure the 12 bolt was original...It was PC coded for a 1967 Camaro. They had 12 bolts because the PC code was especially for SS 350 cars with a 4spd. 3.31gears

-also...I think your side tracked....he is asking the value of his car that he is looking at....I was referencing to my car i sold last year

I know this sounds wierd....when I bought my 68, I got a better interest rate by using a 5.9% Visa card from my Credit Union. Unsecured loan and I had the title, or in you case bill of sales.:yes:

If there is no title then Georgia won't issue one, at least they wouldn't a few years ago when I tried. I have used broadway before, worked excellent, no issues, just takes a couple weeks. They register it in alabama, who then issues a title, and they mail it back to you with a current tag. With the alabama title then georgia will issue a title. This works well and is completely legit.