i have a 67 camaro with factory rs. the previous owners removed the headlight motors because they were bad. i purchased new aftermarket motors and need a pic to see where they go and how themount. anyone got an assembly manual or pics to show me where to mount the motor and how it hooks up to the arm. everything else is there and the arm/door swing easily. thanks

This link should help. You may want to do a search for RS headlight info.

Roger

http://www.retro-electro.net/diagram.html

the searched turned up a ton of post but i could not locate an actual pic of the motor and how it set into the car.

how are people hooking up the new repo style motors to the arms? mine di dnot come with all those washers. am i missing an install kit or are those things not needed with the new type motors. from looking at that pic, it seems the motor shaft comes up from the ground and conects that way.

Did you look over the entire Retro-Electro site? Read this:
http://retro-electro.net/repoinstructions.html
I know they are intructions for Mark's products (the owner and also a TC site member (Marktat here)) but they should help.
Also, BelairBob always seems to have great knowledge of 67 headlight doors and their motors.

yes, you need all those washers. it forms a little "clutchpack" of sorts to allow some slippage to help save the motors. from top to bottom on the output shaft i think it goes something like.... metal washer, plastic washer, swingarm, plastic washer, metal washer, nut. the metal washers are keyed onto the shaft, and they squeeze the plastic discs onto the swingarm (which is not keyed onto the shaft) to provide the friction.

i'll search for those. i was under the impression the repo motors were made to hook up differently. my motors came with nothing, so it looks like i will have to order those things seperately. thanks for the help

We have no way knowing what aftermarket motor you have but this picture is the way the stock motor is mounted in the light.

Roger
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z177/roger62305/Lightmotor.jpg

thanks rogerh, that is what i was looking for. i got the motors from ricks. thanks for the other post, i did not know i needed all those washers for the new repo motors. ordered them from ricks today. pretty dang expersive for those washers. plus some extra for the friction disc that were not included.

so the motor actually mounts on the engine side of the radiator support.

so the motor actually mounts on the engine side of the radiator support.

Edit: whoops, read your question wrong.

When you are putting it together make sure that you don't tighten it against the resistance of the motor or you will damage the gears. I avoided that but tightened the nut to far down without the friction discs (as you said, they were not included) and the "stack" was to short so I ended up breaking off the threaded part of the shaft. Ouch. Bought a new motor, again, and they sure are nice once they work! Take your time. :beers:

how's that? maybe i misunderstood what you guys are trying to say, but the whole headlight bucket, motor and all, mounts to the front of the core support.

and by the way, in the pic that roger posted, see the plate that the motor mounts to? your repo motors most likely came already mounted to a plate of their own, just a flat piece that doesn't have any stamped contours like the original. i scratched my head for a while trying to figure out how to mount the motor until i realized the original plate comes off and the new motor, plate and all, mount up in its place.

vince has a good point about tightening the nut on the swingarm shaft. if it's too loose there won't be enough friction to depress the limit switch, so they keep running. or they bounce off the limit switches. tighten them just enough so they hold against the switch and call it good. haven't had to touch mine in several years.

i'm thinking i'm missing the arm that connects the motor shaft to the door. my doors swing open easily now, but i don't remeber an arm hanging off the door. car is in the shop now. i'll have to check it when i get it back. i was trying to figure out how the motor shaft was going to fit under the door to open it. it hit me last night that i was missing the arm. that is was connects the motor and door together right?

just checked got back from the shop. i see an arm going from the swinging door to underneath the head light. how in the world do you get to it? do the headlights have to come out? i allready have the center grill out. if the motor mounts to the rear of the radiator support, want the battery be in the way on the passenger side? do i need to remove some stuff to get where i can see it better? feel like i'm working on a dam ricer. lol

I did not have to remove my grill since my original RS grill was still riveted in place. Here is what I remember. Someone please let me know if I missed something.

1. Take off the plastic door covers.
Note: The entire assembly (as seen in the previous picture) is attached by 4 bolts at each corner
2. You can then access and remove the two bolts attaching the entire assembly to the fender.
3. Remove the two rear bolts from inside the engine compartment holding the two interior corners of the assembly to the rad support. (remove battery on pass. side)
4: Remove the header panel
5: Disconnect the wires to the headlight and to the motors and switches.
6: Disconnect the arm from the door. 1 bolt.
6: Rotate slightly and remove the entire assembly up and towards the center of the car through the empty space where the header panel was.

Once you have the entire assembly out you can then access all sides and easily replace the motors, arm, mounting plate etc. Putting it back in is the same reversed. Mine had a body shim on the top inside bolt between the assembly and the rad support.

Good luck! Having an assembly manual sure helps.

thanks, thats what i was needing. so the motor needs to go on after the assembly is out. that makes it look alittle better. hopefully i'll get the car back tomorrow.

by the way, a deer unrivited my original rs grill last year. new grill is safely hidden from the wife under the bed. lol

new grill is safely hidden from the wife under the bed. lol

That's just the way it usually starts ;)

she'll never notice all the hotchkis suspension parts i ordered from frank last week. lol gonna have to get it on pretty quick.