I have a 67 Camaro that was originally a L6 but has a 350 swapped into it. The engine seems like it sits too far back. My small cap non-HEI distributer rubs pretty good on the firewall and I can't get my new tall valve to fit past the heater core hoses on the passenger side. Just wondering if anybody else has had this problem. The frame mounts look like all the other V8 frame mounts that I have been seeing pictures of. The engine mounts are 67 350 mounts from Napa. It just seems like the engine is about half an inch too far back. Anybody know of any offset motor mounts that would work with these frame mounts to move the engine just a little bit more forward

Do you have the correct frame stands?

You already have the correct motor mounts so the only other thing it could be is incorrect frame mounts!

I have a set of frame stands from my small block Nova. The part numbers are 3950113 and 3950114.

Doug, those are 1969 (Camaro or later Nova) Big Block Frame stands. Definately not what he wants.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii152/tjs69_photos/engine%20and%20frame%20mounts/camaro_motor_mt_numbers1-1.jpg

The L6 mounts are different than V-8's.

Thanks for the quick responses. I have checked the parts manuals and repo catalogs and this website and my frame mounts look correct. They overhang off the back edge of the frame a little towards the back of the car. I know for a fact they are not L6 mounts or big block mounts, so I am assuming that is not the problem. I am wondering if perhaps the engine mounts I got from Napa might be wrong. Are there different kinds of engine mounts for small blocks. These engine mounts are perfectly centered. do they make offset ones?

I checked my frame stands and they hang off the back of the frame a little more then a inch on the right side and a little less then a inch on the left. The distributor looks to be a little less then a inch from the firewall. If the frame stand are right then it must be the motor mounts. Have you got any of the old mounts to compare the new ones to.
This is a picture of my original mounts , one is broken but they should look like this.

Roger
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z177/roger62305/EngineMounts2.jpg

Thanks that picture is helpful. Your mounts don't look offset. I will have to pull the engine out (again:noway:) and check my mounts. I don't suppose anyone else has had trouble with tall valve covers hitting heater hoses on the passenger side?

Those engine mounts are the 307/327 mounts or pre '69 small block mounts. Pictures of frame mounts, are not a good way of telling which you have. The differences are not by much.

Tom those mounts may work on a 307 or 327 but I know they came off of my 350. Why wouldn't they, they are all chevy small blocks. The newer mounts look a little dfferently. The newer mounts are a little larger because they interlock.
Navion you are right the mounts should be centered over that lower bolt.

Roger

Those engine mounts are the 307/327 mounts or pre '69 small block mounts. Pictures of frame mounts, are not a good way of telling which you have. The differences are not by much.

See Roger, I said pre 1969 small blocks. In 1969 the 302's and 350's used different frame stands AND Engine mounts.

OOPS. The stands i took off my car have part numbers 3945507 and 3945508.

Navion -

The different mount combos are described here; http://www.pozziracing.com/camaro_engine.htm

Have you checked that the subframe is aligned correctly, and that the sub is far enough forward? If you search "subframe alignment" there are diagrams with dimensions. Make sure you use 67-68 dimensions. The 67-68 cross dimension from the front rail reference hole to the opposite rear rail reference hole is 75 7/8 inches, while 69 is 76 inches.

thanks for all your responses. I read the article on engine mounts that Eric provided. It seems like the differences between all the mounting combination's is really just height (and a little offset in the case of big block mounts.) None of the different frame and motor mount combination's look like they should affect forward or rear position of the engine. I'm going to check to make sure that the subframe is aligned and positioned correctly.

Do you have the transmission hooked up and mounted on the right transmission crossmember and transmission mount? If not, the motor will lean back into the firewall.

Do you have the transmission hooked up and mounted on the right transmission crossmember and transmission mount? If not, the motor will lean back into the firewall.

yep its got a 200-4r which is in and mounted. It sat too far back with the th350 also, i have just been dealing with the wedged distributor but now that i have tall valve covers that won't fit past the heater hoses i decided it was time to figure out what is going on.

yep its got a 200-4r which is in and mounted. It sat too far back with the th350 also, i have just been dealing with the wedged distributor but now that i have tall valve covers that won't fit past the heater hoses i decided it was time to figure out what is going on.

Dang. It's got to be the frame stands then. The motor mounts will do nothing to move the motor....unless you have the wide motor mounts on narrow frame stands and put washers in to pull the motor forward. But then you run into an issue of having the wrong height.

Be aware that some of the suppliers do not have correct data in their systems for stuff like this. GM did a lot of wacky stuff every year back when they had plenty of money to change things at will.

For instance, if you go to a parts store and try to get a motor mount for a '69 350, the part is wrong. The 307/327 used one mount and the 302/350/396 used another. Anchor (largest supplier) lists a different part number each for the 302, 350, and 396 and only the 396 one is correct. David Pozzi was my savior on that one.

Try putting a 1/4-3/8" shim between the transmission mount and the crossmember. I think there are at least 3 different thicknesses of transmission mounts. This will tilt the nose of the engine down, creating a lot more room at the firewall.