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JK98SS
Jul 19th, 09, 10:35 AM
Thanks

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c305/JK1066/2-1.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c305/JK1066/3-1.jpg

Skeeter55
Jul 19th, 09, 10:37 AM
Heres a link http://www.camaros.org/diffs69.shtml

JK98SS
Jul 19th, 09, 11:09 AM
So, it looks to be a Dover White RS/SS 396 with standard black interior and blacked out tail. Is that correct? Anything else in there I am missing?
It is an auto, non a/c car.

Jonesy
Jul 19th, 09, 11:53 AM
This is the one in a field. Whats left of it?
Rear end??

Decode for body number: 227371

01B = Built the Second week of January.
69-12437 = Coupe.
NOR = Built in Norwood Ohio.
711 = Standard Black Bucket Seats.
50-50 = Car Color is Dover White
X22 = SS396 with style trim

JK98SS
Jul 19th, 09, 06:47 PM
This is the one in a field. Whats left of it?
Rear end??

Decode for body number: 227371

01B = Built the Second week of January.
69-12437 = Coupe.
NOR = Built in Norwood Ohio.
711 = Standard Black Bucket Seats.
50-50 = Car Color is Dover White
X22 = SS396 with style trim


Yeah, left to rot in a field. The body is complete, missing the drive train. Multi leafs are there but a 10 bolt is in there now. No front seats.
I had to be somewhere and did not have time to look it over real close. I was told it is NOT for sale.
The owner is a doper and was selling parts off to get more drugs. The father of the doper took it to a family friend's house to store it.
I was told IF it comes available for sale I will get the first shot at it.

Eric Kammerer
Jul 20th, 09, 05:31 AM
Just to clarify, with X22 it could have been an RS, but it did not have to be an RS.

JK98SS
Jul 20th, 09, 06:28 AM
X22 is for sure SS 396 with style trim. I gathered it is an RS from the hideaway headlights, solid red tail lights and reverse lamps in the lower valance.

Eric Kammerer
Jul 20th, 09, 06:50 AM
Right, as long as all of the above are OE. Factory stamped openings for the reverse lamps below the bumper (vs. cut with a saw), factory stamped/punched hole near fuse block for vacuum lines/grommet to headlight switch, headlight washer solenoid on top of wiper motor, remnants of D96 pinstripes (if original paint), etc.

I just figured it should be clear that an X22 can be an RS (where an X66 cannot), but all X22 cars are not RS. And a lot of guys will add the hideaways and reverse lamps, when the car was not an original RS. There is a pretty decent price difference between a "standard" X22 car and an RS X22 car when finished, and a similar but smaller price gap for project cars. If someone is paying "SS/RS 396" money, it better be clear that is indeed what the car is/was.

:)

JK98SS
Jul 20th, 09, 08:08 AM
I see. I appreciate the info. I have always been more into the early 2nd gen cars. The last 12 or so years I have been into and owned 4th gens. However I have always had great appreciation for the 1st gens. With the RS package on an SS what striping if any would have come on it? Also, is the headlamp washer standard on an RS car.

Eric Kammerer
Jul 20th, 09, 09:14 AM
For 69, the SS package included the D90 "hockey stick" stripes. RS included D96 pinstripes that started in front of the wheel wells and then followed the body lines toward the rear of the car.

And yes, for 69 the headlight washer system was part of the RS package and is one of the often overlooked details when folks convert a non-RS car to the hideaway lights.

Lots of good, well researched 1st gen info here: http://www.camaros.org/index.shtml

Kurt S
Jul 21st, 09, 11:04 PM
Here's how to ID a RS: http://www.camaros.org/options.shtml#rs

rich pern
Jul 22nd, 09, 06:57 AM
For 69, the SS package included the D90 "hockey stick" stripes. RS included D96 pinstripes that started in front of the wheel wells and then followed the body lines toward the rear of the car.

And yes, for 69 the headlight washer system was part of the RS package and is one of the often overlooked details when folks convert a non-RS car to the hideaway lights.

Lots of good, well researched 1st gen info here: http://www.camaros.org/index.shtml


If you got the D90 "hockey" stripe, did you still get the D96 pinstripes? Or did one omit the other?

I *think* I remember hearing that the Z28 stripes omit the pinstripes except for pace cars which got both (If I remember correctly)?

Thanks,

Rich

lhend50
Jul 22nd, 09, 07:31 AM
I noticed that it was stated that an X66 could not be an RS. I was under the impression that the Z22 option was available on any camaro. That is what it says on the camaro.org site. Is there something I am missing.

Mark C
Jul 22nd, 09, 10:22 AM
No you could not get both the D90 and D96 stripes on a car. You could only get one set of stripes per car. Z10/Z11s are the exception, and some early 69 RS/Z28s as well.

rich pern
Jul 22nd, 09, 11:41 AM
I noticed that it was stated that an X66 could not be an RS. I was under the impression that the Z22 option was available on any camaro. That is what it says on the camaro.org site. Is there something I am missing.

RS required the bright trim group, therefore there should be no x77, x66, x44 RS cars. Basically as soon as you added the RS to car, the x66 would be x22.

Rich

rich pern
Jul 22nd, 09, 11:44 AM
No you could not get both the D90 and D96 stripes on a car. You could only get one set of stripes per car. Z10/Z11s are the exception, and some early 69 RS/Z28s as well.

tks.

r

Eric Kammerer
Jul 22nd, 09, 11:50 AM
No you could not get both the D90 and D96 stripes on a car. You could only get one set of stripes per car. Z10/Z11s are the exception, and some early 69 RS/Z28s as well.

My bad. I missed the part on the striping page that says, in bold letters:

"Camaro "SS" or RPO D90 Sport Striping, Note: This stripe will be the only striping applied on vehicles ordered with Camaro "SS" or Sport Striping in combination with Rally Sport or Style Trim Group."

But that's why I can't be a CRG guy. I can aspire to the pinnacle of Camaro geekdom, but sadly remain only a low level dork... :)

lhend50
Jul 22nd, 09, 06:45 PM
Thanks for clearing that up for me. I never thought about the required bright trim for an RS.