: 69 Camaro Manual Trans Neutral Safety Switch
67CamaroRS/SS Sep 4th, 09, 10:01 AM Does anyone have a picture of the neutral safety switch on their 69 Camaro with a manual tranny? I have a 67 with a Tremec. As we all know, the neutral safety switch on the Tremec cannot handle the current for our cars so I disconnected it. I am installing a switch from a 69, but I don't know where it bolts to or how the small rod runs. Thank you.
Everett#2390 Sep 4th, 09, 10:13 AM It bolts onto the dash, not really the dash itself, but the structure the pedals rotate, and activated by the clutch pedal.
67CamaroRS/SS Sep 4th, 09, 12:31 PM I am really trying to locate a picture of the setup.
Eric Kammerer Sep 4th, 09, 01:32 PM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/ekammerer/108_0846.jpg
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keithl1967 Sep 4th, 09, 01:57 PM Can this 69 switch be effectively istalled into a '67?
Eric Kammerer Sep 4th, 09, 02:22 PM I am pretty certain JimM installed it in his 68, which has the same pedal setup as a 67. The only things different between the 67-68 setup and the 69 setup are the holes where it mounts to dash front down brackets (three locations on 67-68 and only two on 69) and the location of the brake light switch bracket/brake pedal stop (broken on my original 69 part above). The clutch pedals are identical, and the geometry for mounting the clutch safety switch should be close if not exactly the same.
zdld17 Sep 4th, 09, 05:56 PM You can use the neutral switch from the TKO, but you need to use it with a relay. The TKO switch is not a hi current draw switch. Use it to trigger the relay.
I use the stock neutral switch you see in the photos.
JimM Sep 4th, 09, 08:44 PM I am pretty certain JimM installed it in his 68.
I looked into it, but did not. The mounting holes were not there, and I woulda had to pull everything out to get clearance to drill them. Pulling the pedal wouldn't be so bad, but that whole support, no way.
I hooked up a relay, and used the TKO's switch.
67CamaroRS/SS Sep 5th, 09, 07:08 AM The only crappy thing about the TKO switch is you have to push the clutch in NO MATTER IF YOU HAVE IT IN GEAR OR NOT. I would rather not have any switch than to have to push it in even if it's in neutral.
Eric Kammerer Sep 5th, 09, 08:56 AM Well, isn't that the same thing as the clutch switch? I have to push my clutch in to start...
67CamaroRS/SS Sep 5th, 09, 11:43 AM Yeah, but that is ONLY when the car is in gear. With the TKO switch, even if the car is in neutral, you must push the clutch in.
Eric Kammerer Sep 5th, 09, 02:06 PM I think you are misunderstanding how the 69 clutch safety switch operates. When the clutch pedal is pushed in, the switch closes, allowing the power coming in on the big purple wire to flow to the purple/white (or vice verse, I can't recall which of the purple and purple/white is "upstream") If the clutch pedal is not pushed in, the switch is open, and no juice flows.
So no matter what position the shifter is in in an OE equipped 69 model year Camaro, if the clutch is not pushed in, there is no juice to the starter.
I think you'd be better off adding the relay and using the TKO NSS, like in post #4 of the thread below.
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=82846
Then it has nothing to do with the clutch pedal position; the TKO and the clutch pedal have no way of "communicating". Heck, if you just hook the two purples together, you can start the car in gear, out of gear, clutch pedal in or out, whatever. If you want an NSS, using the TKO piece sounds like what you really want to do and how you want it to operate.
I used my clutch pedal switch because it was already there, but I would have used the TKO NSS if my car had been an OE auto trans car.
67CamaroRS/SS Sep 6th, 09, 07:25 AM Wait a minute, I remember now. It's not that you have to push the clutch in, it's the fact that the TKO will ONLY START IN NEUTRAL. Regardless of whether or not you have the clutch pushed in, you have to put the TKO in neutral before it will start and that is the part I hate. I want to be able to push the clutch in and go. I don't want to have to put the car in neutral, start the car then put the car in gear and drive off. There are times I want to just start the car and go and that is what the 69 switch allows you to do. The switch on the TKO is a neutral safety and not a clutch interlock switch, which is what I want.
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