http://www.camaros.net/showroom/data/500/medium/1024dz.JPG

Lost a wristpin along the way......Looks like it would need a sleeve....

http://www.camaros.net/showroom/data/500/medium/1024dz_cyl.JPG


3932386 block with correct casting date (no pic)......but the 9 looks more like a 1 then a 9....vin number stamped above oil filter.....

These are the best pictures I have for now.....Will have to travel a distance to see in person asking price is $1200.00 for both block and heads (3927186) wrong dates on the heads. No crank or internals except the windage tray......

The font for the 4 looks a little strange to me, but I am not an expert and have only a small data base to compare from....

So what do you think. worth going to look at? If so is the asking price inline?

If it all checks out look at the fun I will have trying to find the original car......lol

My intital thought is that it looks good. It would be nice to have a shot of the VIN and a more detailed shot of the stamping.

Is the assembly stamping VI024DZ?
Are you positive the casting date is a 9?
386 blocks were typically from early Z's.
The Born with engine I have for the Early 10D car I am doing now is a 386 with an early/mid October Stamping. I will check it the DZ stamp, I do know for sure the VIN is on the pad.

386 blocks were one of the most common blocks for alot of V8 configurations. Nothing special about the 386 or the 388 blocks.

ok let me restate that...
As far as I know to date there has not been a real October 1969 built DZ with 386 block to surface.
They had 0010's.

Yep, James a Oct 68 DZ would be the 386

Jimmy V.

From what I can gather from the post the Block is a 386 with a 9 casting date and the VIN on the oil filter boss.
Which doesn't seem quite right...

Be careful. 8's look like 9's and vice versa. It most likely is an 8 with a 386 casting.

I respectfully disagree. The 386 casting may have been common but it was the only casting used for early 69 Z/28 engines to my knowledge, so that makes them pretty special.

I respectfully disagree. The 386 casting may have been common but it was the only casting used for early 69 Z/28 engines to my knowledge, so that makes them pretty special.

I don't think that alone would make them any more special, what would make it special is an original DZ stamp. But that is true for any of the castings used for a DZ 302.

what is the VIN by the oil filter?

I respectfully disagree. The 386 casting may have been common but it was the only casting used for early 69 Z/28 engines to my knowledge, so that makes them pretty special.

The SS350's used that casting also..... quite common

The 386 was a common early 4" block - 302, 350, and 327.

The VIN would help.

The stamp looks OK, from what I can see.

Thanks for the help guys..... I am still scratching my head on this one......

This is the only other picture I have and it is as you can see blurry.....
http://www.camaros.net/showroom/data/500/medium/1024dz_closeup.JPG


The seller claims it to be a 68 but the vin is reported to be 19N598XX. Maybe the first 9 is being misunderstood and is actually an 8? But would it not be an MO block? Could a late 68 block have its vin on the oil filter boss?

My info tells me the following.....

Vin alignment for October 1968 512134 530337 for Norwood so the 8 would make sense.

Nasty Z says......
DZ 1968 302 Z-28, late prod Z28 290 4 F
DZ 1969 302 m/t, 4 spd Z28 290 4 F so the DZ would make sense but not the 8.

Mortec says.,...
3932386....302.....69....4...Z-28 Camaro so the block casting would make sense but again not the 8
3932386....327.....69....2
3932386....350.....69....2 or 4

Correction the casting date is now reported to be M or N-3-1 in the oval with the two flat screw heads left and right located on the upper part of the back of the block.
This makes no sense no 386 blocks in 71 right....

ENGINE BLOCK CASTING DATE
Month Day Year
A - Jan thru L - Dec
1 thru 31
7 - 1967
8 - 1968
9 - 1969

A good friend of mine came across this block and took the pictures with his phone. So I have not seen it in person. He is not a car by the numbers guy type. He did feel that the 1 could have been a 9 in the date casting.

Last note the asking price does NOT include the heads that was my fault I misunderstood my friend, so to be clear.....$1200.00 asking price for the block, main caps, windage tray...and a cylinder with a cigar tray.

http://www.camaros.org/drivetrain.shtml#BlockCast

Don't confuse model year and calendar year. It's a 69 MY block.

9N598xxx is unlikely, but possible. And it would explain why is VIN isn't on the pad.

I still think it's real, but I'll leave the $$ to others....

Maybe the engine got lost... lol.
The N533XXX car I have has an early mid oct built 386 DZ. That is why I was questioning the dates. The VIN would line up to be stamped low on the Oilfilter boss, the stamp looks correct but the dates and VIN/VIN location are what is throwing a wrench in the deal.

ok let me restate that...
As far as I know to date there has not been a real October 1969 built DZ with 386 block to surface.
They had 0010's.

I agree

Last bare real DZ I paid 1500 for it. Better condition by along shot though. Std bore no ridge with pistons and rods, it didn't need to be sleeved.