408 SBC Build up Help?? [Archive] - Team Camaro Tech

: 408 SBC Build up Help??


1SYCRYD
Oct 2nd, 09, 08:06 PM
Ok, I am building a 400 SBC for my 68 Camaro Bracket car.
I am looking for the most power I can get on pump gas. I would like input on Cam, Carb, and Torque Convertor for my application..

Spec:
400 2 Bolt .040 over = 408 CID..
Eagle 4340 3.75 Crankshaft.
Eagle 4340 H-Beam Rods 6.0 inch.
SRP -5cc dish Pistons for 10:1 with 64cc Heads..
AFR 210cc Aluminum Heads 2.08 int - 1.62 exh valves.
1.60 Proform Roller Rockers.
Victor Jr Intake

The vehicle is a all steel 68 Camaro with TH350 Trans and a A1 3000 Stall with 4:56 Gears and ladder bar suspension..


What cam would work for my setup? Also how big of a carb should I be looking at..

I want to go 10's with this motor, Is it possible??

Thanks for any advise..

victimizati0n
Oct 2nd, 09, 08:17 PM
i had a very similar setup and everyone said a 1000cfm holley would do good.. take a look at the thread: http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=162055

the cam specs are in there also.. i talked to someone who had a very similar build to the one i was thinking of, and he was running in the low 10's all motor and mid-high 9's with spray

DOUG G
Oct 2nd, 09, 08:24 PM
I would look at solid rollers of at least 250 @ .050 Cams, 750-950 Carbs, and 4500 stall converters. Also with 10:1 compression.... maybe a little N2O :D

Tokyo Torquer
Oct 4th, 09, 09:12 AM
I dnt5 have cam advice but I would consider scat or compstar over that eagle rotator stuff and comp or yella terra over the proform rockers.

540Hotrod
Oct 4th, 09, 09:37 AM
I dnt5 have cam advice but I would consider scat or compstar over that eagle rotator stuff and comp or yella terra over the proform rockers.

Very solid advice!

Looks like you're building a stout one there. You're probably going to want a converter that flashes up a lot higher than 3000.

But yes..it is doable.....if it's not too heavy when you're done. What size tires are on it? Is it a Pro Street deal with the ladder bars and tall tires?


JIM

braz28
Oct 4th, 09, 01:43 PM
[
Only advice i can give you is : Do not install proform roller rockers, they are garbage!!!

so will your engine once it destroys itself after a Proform rocker breaks apart !!!

You do not mention spring pressure, but Proforms can barelly take the spring pressure from a stock engine.

sixd8rs
Oct 4th, 09, 02:16 PM
I also say no to the proform stuff. I wouldnt put them on my lawnmower. Dont skimp on your valvetrain and get good lifters too. I went with Jessel and crower lifters. I want to show you my combo since you are using the same heads. It just went 11.08 @124 on a 28x9 slick thru the mufflers. Its just a couple inches smaller than yours. Its a 385 and car weighed 3400lbs.
Do you know your cars weight?
Here is the link.
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=165724

1SYCRYD
Oct 4th, 09, 03:50 PM
Very solid advice!

Looks like you're building a stout one there. You're probably going to want a converter that flashes up a lot higher than 3000.

But yes..it is doable.....if it's not too heavy when you're done. What size tires are on it? Is it a Pro Street deal with the ladder bars and tall tires?


JIM

It weights 3430 with driver... Its a ChassisWorks Ladder Bar set-up.. NO Backhalf..

I have M/T ET Drags 28x10.5 slicks

6D9
Oct 4th, 09, 08:06 PM
Yeah...I would go for

Super Victor intake
HP950
Soild roller.....260 or so at .050
11 to 1
1 7/8 headers
4500 stall

Lonnie67
Oct 4th, 09, 08:35 PM
With 5cc dished pistons, I'm guessing flat tops with 5cc valve reliefs, and 64cc heads you will have a lot more than 10:1. You'll have 11.7 with .000 deck and .040 head gasket. You will need more converter too...

srode
Oct 17th, 09, 08:33 PM
With 5cc dished pistons, I'm guessing flat tops with 5cc valve reliefs, and 64cc heads you will have a lot more than 10:1. You'll have 11.7 with .000 deck and .040 head gasket. You will need more converter too...
That's what I was thinking - you need -16cc pistons for 10:1 on a 408 - I building the same cubes now with a SCAT forged crank, procomp rods and SRP pistons - it's decked -0.010 so the machine shop picked a different piston to get to 10:1 but at .000 deck and -16cc it would have been 10:1 on the nose if I recall correctly.

you can download a program from comp cams called camquest to play around with configurations to pick a cam and get a simulated HP/Torque peak, average and curves to look at.

ace's68
Oct 17th, 09, 08:40 PM
I agree, lose the Eagle stuff (if you can).
Scat is great, agreed on the rockers, comp pro-mags, I run yella-terra, a little noisy but they are tool steel (look just like comp pro-mags).
I would highly suggest 10.8:1-11:1, you can still run pump gas if you run a cam with 240* duration or more.
A comp 292/306 or larger solid roller would be good with 10.8:1-11:1.
Agree with the bigger converter too, a 3000 stall is probably only good for something like a cam with 280* duration.
1000CFM is BIG for a motor that will probably only put out 500+.
Get a cam with enough lift to support those afr's, you may want to look into a custom grind.