Just doing a comparison and noticed that the 195 Canfields might be better than the tfs for about the same money. What do you people think. I've included the flow numbers and if someone could plug these into my combo, i would sure appreciate it.A chart w/hp and tq at rpms would make it a lot easier to compare. looking for more than just peak. THANKS !!!!


Lift....Intake Can/TFS..Exhaust Can/TFS
.100............74/65............63/70
.200...........141/133..........107/102
.300...........201/188..........143/140
.400...........247/226..........175/164
.500...........258/250..........190/183

Combo (so far)
350 with .30 forged pistons 10:1 cr
Crower roller cam 00468 (225/232 duration @ .050" .535"/.550" lift)
roller tip rocker arms
Q-Jet tuned up (from 75 L-48) may upgrade if needed
Performer rpm intake
Stock HEI w/pertronix kit
8 mm plug wires
hv oil pump
1 5/8 headers (1 3/4 needed????)
windage tray
6 qt baffled oil pan
* will add 150-200 hp NOS at a later date



[This message has been edited by newonad (edited 03-04-2002).]

you may be on to something
here's the TFS numbers:
445HP at 5500rpms
469TQ at 4000rpms/ 450TQ at 2000rpms

Here's canfeild's number:
454HP at 5500rpms
473TQ at 4000rpms/ 447TQ at 2000rpms

they're a little better in the top end, i'm still dead set on TFS personally.

Go with the Can`s you won`t regret it.
A single pattern cam would work with those heads too.
1 5/8" will be just fine.
No need for a HV oil pump either.


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78 Camaro hyd cam 406
TH350-3.23 gear
11.86 ET
116.7 MPH

those canfield heads are also supposed to have a lot of horses left in them that can be freed up with some work. I have heard good things about them.

i beleive chevy high performance mag did flow test on several heads and the canfields were right under air flows. from what i have hered from a performance machine shop the valve guides tend to wear out in the trickflows my choice would be canfields the best flowing head for the money .i also think your car would be faster with 15/8s headers unless you are going with the bigger ported heads

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67 NOVA 406

How about it CamaroNOT. Lets plug in a few single pattern cams (less than 225 duration @ .50) Maybe the Crane 280HR or others?

LOL. CamaroNotCamero has become the Desktop Dyno whore http://www.camaros.net/forum/wink.gif http://www.camaros.net/forum/tongue.gif

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79' Z28 4-spd- built 355, TRW 10:1 forged flat tops, WP SportsmanII heads, Crane Energizer 230/230 duration .480"/.480" lift, Edelbrock Victor Jr., Holley 750cfm, Dynomax headers, dual 3" flowmasters :) 3.73 Posi 10-bolt

whore??? Dont you have to get paid for that? Seriously, the dyno service he provides is truly appreciated. The advise now saves me money in trial and error later; not to mention the grief of " dont know why my megga cam got beat by a rice burner". Wouldnt that be sorry. Plan twice, purchase once.

[This message has been edited by newonad (edited 03-05-2002).]

yeah you guys gotta start paying me! lol, i dont mind. i'll try em out in a minute.

here's your combo with Canfeilds and the comp 280HR:
434HP at 5500rpms
472TQ at 4000rpms/ 453TQ at 2000rpms

comp 270HR
404HP at 5000rpms
473TQ at 3000rpms/ 469TQ at 2000rpms

Crower 00467 roller (221/230 dur)
446HP at 5500rpms
473TQ at 4000rpms/ 453TQ at 2000rpms

Crower 00465 roller (213/221 dur)
417hp at 5500rpms
476tq at 3500rpms/ 469TQ at 2000rpms (tire frier!)

What's the price on the Canfields? When I was building my 383 last winter, the Canfields were a bit more expensive than the TF's - but it looks like the TF's have gone up a little. If I recall they were about $1100 assembled and the TF's were $850 (now $900).

From best to worst in the 190-200cc range - IMO

AFR 195's
Canfield 195
Trick Flow 23*
Dart Iron Eagle
Sportsman II's
etc, etc, etc.

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68 Camaro, 383 small block with TH350 trans. 11.98's at 111mph and never trailered.

[This message has been edited by Eric68 (edited 03-06-2002).]

[This message has been edited by Eric68 (edited 03-06-2002).]

Does anyone know if the Canfields can have the steam holes drilled for a 400 sb? I do know that Canfield recomends a special stud girdle because the valves are not in the stock location.

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David
68 SS Camaro (377CID, 11.633 @ 115mph)
2001 Track Champion, Modified & Trophy 1 Div.-Wall Dragway, TX.

The Canfields are already drilled for steam ports. You can bolt them right on to a 400 block, and they rock!

how much for the canfields. what intake volume and chamber size. i'm looking for heads and can't decide between afr 195, victor jr 215cc(they just changed the port and claim 10 extra horsepower in new chp magazine ad)or the dart pro 1 215cc head.

Check out www.competitionproducts.com. (http://www.competitionproducts.com.) I have a recent catalog that shows for 200cc they are 699 pair bare and 949 pair bolt-on.

Eric you know I'd know http://www.camaros.net/forum/smile.gif. Tell you're friend I'm still going to call, I just keep forgetting to.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Winch:
Check out www.competitionproducts.com. (http://www.competitionproducts.com.) I have a recent catalog that shows for 200cc they are 699 pair bare and 949 pair bolt-on.

Eric you know I'd know http://www.camaros.net/forum/smile.gif. Tell you're friend I'm still going to call, I just keep forgetting to. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ken, how true. I should have just asked you to begin with. You should be on the Price is Right. http://www.camaros.net/forum/tongue.gif

Doug Herbert :http://www.herbertperformance.com Has a great deal on Canfield heads. I think their caralog has them bowl blended and gasket matched with CNC chambers for $1024.

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69 Chevelle SS
Camaro Parts Network, http://www.camaro1.com

Talk about coincidence! Was taking a scenic route to bypass Charlotte Friday/4-6 pm traffic. Guess what I ran across...Doug Herberts parts whse and the prices are for real. Canfield 195 65 CNC chambers, race ready, bowl blended and gasket matched for 1074.95 pr.(assembled)