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That is so sad. (racial comment removed)

Yes, very sad indeed. He was a psychiatrist who was soon going to be deployed.

I just heard that the 2 "suspects" were released. Looking like the shooter was acting alone.

Let's see how this whole story unfolds. You know how the media gets it right the second time around.

Sad news indeed. And too close to home. It's just right down the street from here.

My thoughts are with them.

I called/text'd everyone I know that is at that base and everyone I know is fine.

DAMN!

~Joe

Very sad indeed. My thoughts and prayers go to the families.

whoa...so very sad!!....thoughts and prayers to the family...

God Bless them. Our troops need all the support they can get!

Looks like the shooter is still alive after all and in stable condition.
And, big surprise, was Muslim. Major in the Army.

Rich

wow, It scares me to know that someone who has a md. and is supposed to be a trusting person, especially in his field can do something like that.
I know a few people stationed there, hope everything is well.

Very sad for sure, prayers to all the families!!

This freaking guy, served two tours, was a major and spent time in one of the worst hospitals for the wounded and failed his own mental evaluations and the government/military wanted to send him back over?? Makes no sense to me???

Family said today that he felt "picked on". Can't see too many people that can give a Major any grief, even if in the medical field.

I guess we can now state that he DID have some issues with America and he being Muslim, as he was allegidly shouting "Allahu Akbar" (God is Great in Arabic) while shooting.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2009/11/news-roundup-fort-hood-suspect-shouted-god-is-great/1

Rich

Family said today that he felt "picked on". Can't see too many people that can give a Major any grief, even if in the medical field.

I guess we can now state that he DID have some issues with America and he being Muslim, as he was allegidly shouting "Allahu Akbar" (God is Great in Arabic) while shooting.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2009/11/news-roundup-fort-hood-suspect-shouted-god-is-great/1

Rich
I totally agree, This is so sad, I wonder how background checks are done ? Worse yet after deployment he gives up the GPS location to blow up the whole troop. Ban me if you want this is how I feel,my son is going to Iraq in March, you will not change my opinion !!!!

Pull the plug on the guy. Don't really care what/who he is and he does NOT deserve to live. To take that many innocent lives and attempt to take that many more then they want to save him ???
If he lives he will either spend the rest of his life in a psychotic ward,in prison,or on death row ???
OK, now thats off my chest.

Pull the plug on the guy. Don't really care what/who he is and he does NOT deserve to live. To take that many innocent lives and attempt to take that many more then they want to save him ???
If he lives he will either spend the rest of his life in a psychotic ward,in prison,or on death row ???
OK, now thats off my chest.agreed!

Family said today that he felt "picked on". Can't see too many people that can give a Major any grief, even if in the medical field.

I guess we can now state that he DID have some issues with America and he being Muslim, as he was allegidly shouting "Allahu Akbar" (God is Great in Arabic) while shooting.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2009/11/news-roundup-fort-hood-suspect-shouted-god-is-great/1

Rich

I totally agree, This is so sad, I wonder how background checks are done ? Worse yet after deployment he gives up the GPS location to blow up the whole troop. Ban me if you want this is how I feel,my son is going to Iraq in March, you will not change my opinion !!!!

You guys have to get over the racial thing here, given the guys military past you can't really believe he's been planning what he did as a terrorist for all this time and this was his big bang against the American people! Personally I feel the guy deserves to be tried and convicted and then sentenced to death for his actions. His name and his prayer have nothing to do with this though. The human machine is tough and resilient but it's mental capacity can be frail.

This is a tragedy for what it is, leave your racial issues out of it or don't post. You can self regulate this or I can regulate it for you!

The way I read it...sounds like more of a "belief" thing than a "racial" thing. Also from what I read it seems as though there was some planning involved.

Sad day for sure....unfortunate what some people do.

I think Dennis 100% correct on this one. This guy is certainly not the first person to "go postal". That quirk in human behavior spans all religions and races.

alan

Pull the plug on the guy. Don't really care what/who he is and he does NOT deserve to live. To take that many innocent lives and attempt to take that many more then they want to save him ???
If he lives he will either spend the rest of his life in a psychotic ward,in prison,or on death row ???
OK, now thats off my chest.Agree 100%.:mad::beers:

This message has been deleted by DjD. Reason: Post any more and you are gone Rich, you have a choice!

Admin edit: You could have let it go but chose not to...

The way I read it...sounds like more of a "belief" thing than a "racial" thing. Also from what I read it seems as though there was some planning involved.

Sad day for sure....unfortunate what some people do.

He had also posted very inflammatory comments on some internet sites as well..................

Nidal Malik Hasan (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572509,00.html)

David F.

Here is the Hero of the hour:

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01518/munley_1518096c.jpg

Mrs. Kim Munley.

"Mrs Munley was one of the "first responders" who returned fire after army psychiatrist Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan went on the rampage at the sprawling Fort Hood base in Texas.

She shot Hasan four times but was herself wounded in the gun battle. Her condition is now stable, according to military officials. "

Way to go Kim! :thumbsup:

The whole thing is very sad. The service men and women have it tough enough as it is. How do you do your work and trust others around you after this? My stepson was at FT. Hood months ago for training before shipping out to Afghanistan.

I don't think it was a racial thing at all. It was a belief thing as Paul said. Sure anyone can go "postal", but when he shouts "Allahu Akbar" (arabic for god is great) before shooting how should his actions be taken?

I think Dennis 100% correct on this one. This guy is certainly not the first person to "go postal". That quirk in human behavior spans all religions and races.

alan

Yes. Anyone can snap or commit atrocities. But when religion is involved it causes additional turmoil based on the viewpoints of the victims and the aggressors. Religion has, and always will be, the birth of conflict and the creator of carnage. When combined with selfish extremist beliefs and actions the results are devastating. And humans are a very self destructive species. Even within groups who share similar beliefs.
Atrocities? Christians cut out the placentas of Native Americans and put them on the end of a stick for display. We called them savages that needed to be tamed.
Acts such as that at Fort Hood will never cease, nor will other senseless killings. We have progressed little in thousands of years.

I think if someone is that angry and against the war, they should be given a dishonorable discharged. It's been reported he posted anti-American stuff on some web-site. He also got up and gave an anti-American rant at a medical convention, according to a guy that was there. It's also been reported the FBI was aware of the guy, that alone is a big enough red flag.

I think if someone is that angry and against the war, they should be given a dishonorable discharged. It's been reported he posted anti-American stuff on some web-site. He also got up and gave an anti-American rant at a medical convention, according to a guy that was there. It's also been reported the FBI was aware of the guy, that alone is a big enough red flag.

The biggest problem in all of these cases is that when the authorities go back, yes, there were signs that the guy was not happy. But how do you predict who is gonna just continue to post passionate opinions and who is gonna escalate to action like this guy did?

alan

The biggest problem in all of these cases is that when the authorities go back, yes, there were signs that the guy was not happy. But how do you predict who is gonna just continue to post passionate opinions and who is gonna escalate to action like this guy did?

alan


You don't predict. You get pro-active. He was deadwood in the military due to poor reviews. I think I could have spotted this guy reading the data on him.

Well, the point I was trying to make was that many people have passionate/volatile/ardent viewpoints. And that is fine. Along with that, many people are terminated, purged, however you want to put it. The vast majority of these people don't go out and do what this guy did. The question always is how do you know which guy is gonna do that? I think the answer is you don't know who will go beserk. Let's face it, many people who are fired will give the boss a piece of his mind and that is it but unfortunately, a small percentage escalate. In hindsight, you can say "yeah, I am not surprised" but look how many of these cases end up with "I am surprised, he was a very quiet polite person".

alan

I would bet that this guy represented less than 1% of the military. I say get rid of that less than 1%. Boot 'em out. You have to be proactive!