How I can really tell if a trim tag was removed and/or replaced?? I'm looking at an X66 car the tag looks good but you never know?? Thanks

Can you post a pic of the tag your looking at?

It will not let me. Can I send it to your e-mail??

SEND AWAY(deverauxbill@yahoo.com)

here is the link, hopefully it will work [url]WWW.universalautosalesandclassiccars.com/69camaro46.htm

file not found?

I sent it again, anything

Link to auction - http://www.universalautosalesandclassiccars.com/69Camaro46.htm


Tag looks okay to me ;)
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Car looks as Tag decodes - so no major problems there.
Engine is a 'mish-mash' so don't over pay as for a "numbers" car - which this one is not represented to be ...

So you think trim tag is ok?? I thought the seam sealer looked new?? thanks very much for your help.

i see a flaw with it,? is there any way you can get the guy to retake the pic of the tag and send it to you?

left front fender to door doesnt line up/the trim for the vin. top is all off and bent/its had a left rear quarter/the pic of the right rear quarter is before the new vin.top was put on/he said he's got a deposit on it(is that you, dt?)

Yes DT

I have actually seen the car and trim tag. Nothing out of the ordinary really regarding the trim tag. I mean for me. Just curious about the dum dum putty in the rivets. What flaw do you see?? (with trim tag)

I don't have my tag files on this computer, but I'll compare quick in the AM.

Here's other things about the car:

Wrong color D90 "SS" stripe; should be black.
Wrong color grille; should also be black.
Style Trim (wheelwell moldings, drip rail chrome) has been added; X66 is SS396 w/o Style Trim.
Rear mount antenna with rear spoiler; not factory and it can be a pain.

Does have 28-coil hood springs, so it could be an SS (many recreations forget to change the springs for the heavier domed SS hood.

What's the underside look like. Even in this market, a NOM X66 coupe that is a desirable color selling for only $30K at a dealer would make me look very, very close. Almost seems to good to be true.

Does the TH400 have a matching partial VIN stamp that is real? If so, then it was an SS396.

Does the 12-bolt have stamped codes that make sense with the rest of the dates?

Frame rail reinforcement plate on driver side frame rail for OE dual exhaust?

I think the tag is okay, based on the others I have on file. I am not a guru though....

Thank you very much. The underside is a little rough. Needs floors. I will double check the framerail plate. There are a couple things that need attention. I think the Lemans blue is a little off, not exact. I just wanted a big block car that I could work with without paying an arm and a leg for.

donnie, for 30k and needing floors??? what do you think??..verify that it is a real x66,verify that this car was born a real big block car..look it all over, on what it will needs to make you happy and what you can sell the car for, if need be, when your done, so you dont lose money on it..

Funny...I bought an X66 for $30k that needed floors. This one is a better color and better interior though.

I am nearly complete with patching my floors..but what I know now from this site, and what the market is doing I would say that $30k is a little high for something that needs floors. I would also check the trunk floor very carefully, as well as the trunk drop off where it meets the inner rear inner fenders from underneath. I have had lotsa fun replacing all this stuff on my car with what I thought was some minor rust issues on my car.

I think the tag is okay, based on the others I have on file. I am not a guru though....

You keep a file on trim tags... and you're NOT a guru??
hmmm, who's the biggest guru on here? Kurt?

donnie(dt) just so you have something to compare too, it cost someone $4500.00 to do a full floor and trunk and gas and brake lines the right way!!

You keep a file on trim tags... and you're NOT a guru??
hmmm, who's the biggest guru on here? Kurt?


Kurt and Mark and William and any of the other CRG guys... I have only been collecting tag photos for the last year or so, and may finally be working out the differences. Many of the CRg guys have thousands of tags real and fake catalogued.

And DT, you ought to do a click on Ryan's username (hatdragracer) and use the "read all posts" option to see what he has gone through with the NOM X66 he bought. He's been fighting with it for a while, and if I recall he got it for a LOT less than $30K. He'll probably still be upside down in it when he's done (sorry Ryan :) ).

It's a lot of work to do floors right, and it's even harder to do them if the outside is already "pretty" and you're hoping to keep it that way.

Plus, I know I am anal, but that white hockey stick with black top would make me nuts.

Here my opinion on a value of a real x66 car with papers too prove it and with the born with drivetrain..55-65k..(NEEDING NOTHING)
on a real x66 car with papers too prove it and non matching drivetrain maybe
30-38k..(NEEDING NOTHING MAJOR OR VERY LITTLE)
on a cobbled us mess, meaning the wrong drivetrain (not matching) and no docs.to prove and needing kinda of what yours does 20k-22k and thats on a good day!! thats Real world prices..
me personally i wouldnt want it for more than 19k-21k..but thats me!!

Here my opinion on a value of a real x66 car with papers too prove it and with the born with drivetrain..55-65k..(NEEDING NOTHING)
on a real x66 car with papers too prove it and non matching drivetrain maybe
30-38k..(NEEDING NOTHING MAJOR OR VERY LITTLE)
on a cobbled us mess, meaning the wrong drivetrain (not matching) and no docs.to prove and needing kinda of what yours does 20k-22k and thats on a good day!! thats Real world prices..
me personally i wouldnt want it for more than 19k-21k..but thats me!!

Bill, does Canadian docs add more value:D

Thanks for all the comments guys. Ive been looking for awhile now. The prices are crazy. Never seen a big block car go for 21,000. I have to take two aspirin right now.....

Hey DT,

To add another thought, the car is sitting lower than stock. Is that due to aging springs & leafs, or was it intentionally lowered? It's a good looker, but how well does the drivetrain perform? In this market, for that kind of money, you should have little competition which means you can and should negotiate a better price considering the floor pan issues and as noted, the job will be that much more challenging so as not to impact the paint. I say not a dime more than $25k, and that's only if this car really floated my boat. There are lots and lots of 69 Camaros for sale right now, so make searching for the right one a fun, extensive and rewarding experience.

Charlie
69 Camaro RS
70 Challenger

Thanks, I got him down to 29,000 and he will put in a one piece floor for 1,000 So I'm at 30 Will see, will see still looking.

Did you check the VIN with the build date range to verify it falls in place? $30K for a non matching SS396 is kind of high without paperwork and a lot of details are wrong on the car which will take money to fix correctly.

Trim tag FRAUD is so harsh couldnt we call it Trim tag tribute or Trim tag clone? :)

There's no harm in a Tribute car or a Clone car. That is because you know what it is. So, having said that, I would say No.

Interior has no grab rail with Camaro emblem on right side indicating no style trim, but has other style trim items which were probably added.

Jimmy V.

Thanks again everyone. I did notice the little things. All I really wanted was an original SS car. X22 or X66. I preferred a NOM. So I was concerned with the trim tag.

He's been fighting with it for a while, and if I recall he got it for a LOT less than $30K. He'll probably still be upside down in it when he's done (sorry Ryan :) ).

Eric..I was serious in my previous post, I did pay 30k+ and have more tied up in the trunk, floors, wiring, engine and tranny rebuild...etc..no doubt being upside down. I thought at one point recently I was going to have to sell due to being laid off...but a friend helped me realize that selling the car would only delay the pain and not fix my income problem long term...so I made some difficult decisions to keep it...needless to say being upside down helped that decision.

Thankfully this forum helped me confirm at least it was a real X66...so at least I can say I have a big block 69 camaro.

Interior has no grab rail with Camaro emblem on right side indicating no style trim, but has other style trim items which were probably added.

Jimmy V.

Grab bar has nothing to do with style trim. It's part of special interior group.

Trim tag FRAUD is so harsh couldnt we call it Trim tag tribute or Trim tag clone? :)

My vote is NO. Fraud is fraud. If you want to build a tribute car or clone there is no need to change trim tag unless you are trying to fool somebody.