mainly 1st Gen camaros, but all others are welcome.

My 69 ragtop weighs in at 3750 and 3945 with me in it! :eek:

My 73 Z28 weighed 3818 the other day with a full tank of gas, full stock interior, stereo, spare tire, big heavy 6-71 blower, ovesized rear axles (heavy!), and my 170lb body in it. It was lighter than I thought.

You guys need to take all those dead bodies out your trunks... ;)

3300lbs with me.
67 RS, pin on glass hood, bolt on glass trucnk lid,
no inner fenderwells, racin buckets, gutted/foam filled back seat (50lbs before 30lbs after)
fuel cell, Bogart wheels, moly roll bar (50lbs), no RS head light mecanism, no front bumper,
no ac, no heater, alum. radiator, no brake booster

2960 car only 1/2 tank of gas. 51% on the rear.

1985 corvette switched from TPI to carb. AC removed, alum heads.

stock int.,power seats,PS,PW,PL, PB, heat, RD.

last time I weighed mine it was 3340 with me in it with 1/8 tank of gas. This was with iron heads, TH350, subframe connectors...

Since then I've cut some weight out of the interior, swapped to aluminum heads, and done a few other things... I'm guessing it is about 3100 without me in there.

My 73' Nova weighs 3260 without me, around 3510 with my big ass. Thats with absolutly no options or power anything, fiberglass cowl hood, 8 pt roll bar, subframe connectors, weld drag lites, no front sway bar, heater unit removed. But it does have a full stock interior. I just dont understand how the boys on the chevelle board claim they have 3,200 lb full steel/interior chevelles...especially the 68-72' models.

I was with my friend when he weighed his 69 Chevelle. iron headed sbc full interior, no roll bar, draglites 3240. Plastic innerfenderwheeles, fiberglass hood.

I truly beileve the scale was off or there is more to the story, i have a loaded 70 chevelle and a loaded 67 GTO and if that chevelle dosent weigh 4,000 lbs with a small block, and the GTO dosent weigh at least 3,700 id be VERY surprised.
With the exception of the Chevy II, novas and camaros are by far the lightest "muscle" car GM produced, so how are these chevelles that weigh 300-500 lbs more than a comparable camaro/nova all of the sudden weighing the same or less with the same kind of mods?? I mean its not that big of a deal and i dont want to turn this thread into a debate....because the only thing that matters is the timeslip, i just think alot of guys are kidding themselves.

3310lbs with a 135lbs driver

Aftermarket Iron heads on a SBC 010 block
Power Steering, Power Brakes
All DOT equipment
Full interior including the stock AM/FM radio
All steel including a steel hood
Copper/Brass radiator
3/4 tank of gas
STeel Cragar front wheels with Big radial front tires.
Aluminum drive wheels with 28x10.5 slicks
Aluminum front brakes
TH-350 with 10" ATI converter
12 Bolt with a posi and aftermarket 30 spline axles
Steel Driveshaft
Insulation under the carpet still
No sway bar.
Full exhuast with mufflers

I was at 3480 with 1/4 tank,me(190),sub connectors,4point roll bar,no spare,all steel motor ( small block ) except aluminum intake, and old Keystones... now with Prostars???? 3400 ???

So far, we have 67`s weighing 3175-3310 lbs
68`s 3300-3340 lbs
69`s 3380-3750

If you where to put in a Gen VI big block stroker in place of the small block, a TH400 instead of a TH350.
Then pull out the 10 bolt and put a big Dana 60 in what do you suppose those cars would weigh then?? any guess`s anyone?

I'm expecting 3500 lb with my iron headed BBC powered '67. Mine won't be gutted out though. Full deluxe interior. I like my $hit to look good at the track and cruise nights. :D

It weighed 3050 lb with iron headed SBC, 4-speed.

Additions since weighed.
Mild steel 8-pt bar
TH-400
Iron headed BBC
Moser 12-bolt

Last time I weighed mine it was 3360 with a tool box and 1/4 tank. 4pt bar,sub frame connectors, scattershield, full interior, iron sbc, 12bolt, hotchkis 3 leafs. Tremec will add probably 30lbs and an additional 195lbs for the driver Ouch! Should be around 3540 w/Driver, good thing I will have a torquey 406 under the hood. SS

its been awhile, but i weighed about 3200, with 1/4 tank and full rs equipment, power steering, power brakes, full stock interior (no door panels), aluminum headed 400. i've added weight and removed some in places, but i'm sure its about the same. then add me at 170 on a good day, plus more gas etc, i'm probably right at 3400 race weight.

Originally posted by BigRed-L72:
So far, we have 67`s weighing 3175-3310 lbs
68`s 3300-3340 lbs
69`s 3380-3750

If you where to put in a Gen VI big block stroker in place of the small block, a TH400 instead of a TH350.
Then pull out the 10 bolt and put a big Dana 60 in what do you suppose those cars would weigh then?? any guess`s anyone? I have a 12 bolt with boxed mopar mounts, ford housing ends and a Posi, not a 10 bolt.

Lets compare red:


Brian's 67' camaro:
Copper/brass 3 core 23" wide radiator (mines the A/C radiator)
Iron water pump
aftermarket Iron headed small block (40lbs lighter then an aluminum head BBC)
010 4bolt nickle block (not light)
Water pump drive
Full size fan
Power Steering/power brakes
Steel Cragar front wheels and full size radial front tires
Aluminum brakes (35lbs lighter the iron front disk brakes)
Steel flat hood
Frame ties and slapper bars
Sound deadener, carpet, all seats
Radio and heater

only 3310lbs with me (135) and 3/4 tank of gas

Big Red's 69 Camaro (found of picture of the car)

Aluminum headed BBC
Glass cowl hood with hood pins (more then likely no latch)
Aluminum wheels
Roll bar (maybe 75lbs if its mild steel)
turbo 400 (40-50lbs heavier?)
dana 60 (30-50lbs heavier then my 12 bolt?)
heavier driver (45lbs)


I figure based on this that his car cant weight more then 3500lbs to 3600lbs

Now do you see why i think that a claimed 3760lbs Camaro is rediculas?

3580# race weight here (I'm 230). Mild steel roll bar, full interior (including back seat and stereo), brass radiator, alum w/p, alum heads, alum intake, subframe connectors, 3/4-full tank, and my small tool kit in the trunk LOL.

68 granada gold camaro ,original 6banger,glide car
aluminum headed sbc 010 block
Power Steering, standard brakes
All DOT equipment
Full interior including AM/FM cassette radio
All steel including a steel hood
aluminum radiator
1/4 tank of gas
Steel Cragar ss front wheels with bfg radial ta front tires.
15x8 steel rally rear wheels with 26x10.5 slicks
steel front brakes
TH-350 with 10" ATI converter
8.5 10 Bolt with a posi and stock 28 spline axles
Steel Driveshaft
Insulation under the carpet still
sway bar.
Full exhuast with mufflers

sorry car is 3245 without driver and 3475 with.

Big Red has an aluminum BB Rodeck motor in it???

I've never weighted mine but am now estimating it from about 3100 pounds to about 3450 pounds with the BB and aluminum rad., heavier rear springs and S/F/C's now with me in it at 205, but may be off.

Mine's an early, '66 car is the reason I say around 3100 pounds is all..

I figure the darn SS hood has to weigh at least "800" pounds!!!!! Probably gonna get a F/G hood onna these days??? Boy that sucker is a hanful R&R'ing it by myself!!!!

pdq67

1969 Nova SS with SBC and 4 speed Muncie-no fuel/people:

3225 pounds

My car weighed 3550 with me (180) in it before i put in the ladder bar. not sure now, but probably close. It has an aluminum head bb, alum radiator, glass hood, th-400, full stock interior, stereo and amp, 10 pt cage, fuel cell(same time as ladder bar).
What is so much different that the 67's are lighter?

I figure based on this that his car cant weight more then 3500lbs to 3600lbs

Now do you see why i think that a claimed 3760lbs Camaro is rediculas? [/QB]Now you`re thinking!!

If you put our drivetrain in your car, it would easily add 200 lbs.

That equals...3375 lbs. Do you agree with that?

A 69 Camaro weighs about 200 more lbs than a 67 and don`t even try to argue that ok.

Now take that 3375 lbs (your car, our drivetrain)
add the 200 lb difference in the weight.

Now you have 3575 LBS :eek:

Do a search, and read carefully, our car as stated many times weighs 3560 lbs without driver

Here`s a math challenge for you..take that 3560 lbs and add a 180 lb driver and you have.. sorry times up smile.gif
3740 LBS

No problem!! graemlins/waving.gif

My 72 Nova is 3310lbs with full tank, full interior with bench seat, 4-speed, a/c, p/s, p/b (4 wheel disk), and a 450hp 383 with iron heads and 15 X 7 steel ralley wheels. All original steel car. 3550 with driver.

67, steel cowl, sb, alum heads, vintage air, fold down rear seat, 12 bolt, th350, convo pros, not lightened at all, 1/4 tank gas, full 2.5 exhaust xpipe ultraflo's, front disks, my 180lbs. Empty trunk, 3415lbs.

67, glass 4" hood, sb, iron heads, sound deadening removed, heater intact, no front bumper, 5 pt moly roll bar, th350, ford 9", centerline auto drags, standard back seat, full 3" exhaust (75lbs w/o mufflers), 30 series flowmasters, front disks, my 180lbs, 1/4 tank, empty trunk. 3400lbs.

I was in paulm's car when he weighed it, with both of us in it, it was about 4125... Just in case someone doesn't believe his 3750 weight. He has an aluminum headed sb.

Red, your Bogus math proves how Bogus your story is.
You want to claim that thing weighs 3760lbs, go right ahead, but Myself, and anyone with a smart head on shoulders knows better.
I have plenty of racing friends with street legal 69' Camaros. The weights just dont add up to being 200lbs heavier from the start.

67's didnt come with smog pumps, however 69's did, amongst other features removed on a race car.

[ 12-21-2004, 04:44 PM: Message edited by: Drag Fabricator ]

Get off your lazy AZZ and take the thing to the scale.

69 camaro with sub frame connectors and traction bars. aluminum rims:

raceweight w/0 driver is 3270

Thank you very much for the compliments guys...makes us feel pretty good smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

10.12 ET @ 133 mph 3700+ lbs on 93 octane take it or leave it :D :D :D :D :D

Originally posted by BigRed-L72:
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I figure based on this that his car cant weight more then 3500lbs to 3600lbs

Now do you see why i think that a claimed 3760lbs Camaro is rediculas? Now you`re thinking!!

If you put our drivetrain in your car, it would easily add 200 lbs.

That equals...3375 lbs. Do you agree with that?

A 69 Camaro weighs about 200 more lbs than a 67 and don`t even try to argue that ok.

Now take that 3375 lbs (your car, our drivetrain)
add the 200 lb difference in the weight.

Now you have 3575 LBS :eek:

Do a search, and read carefully, our car as stated many times weighs 3560 lbs without driver

Here`s a math challenge for you..take that 3560 lbs and add a 180 lb driver and you have.. sorry times up smile.gif
3740 LBS

No problem!! graemlins/waving.gif [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]You forgot your math quiz bucko!! still waiting....for your answers smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

Originally posted by 40Coupe:
Get off your lazy AZZ and take the thing to the scale. And that is directed to ???

Originally posted by Drag Fabricator:
Red, your Bogus math proves how Bogus your story is.


67's didnt come with smog pumps, however 69's did, amongst other features removed on a race car. WHAT??? graemlins/clonk.gif graemlins/clonk.gif graemlins/clonk.gif graemlins/clonk.gif

70 nova ss, all steel except hood and trunk, full interior, (no back seat), donovan BBC, powerglide, ford 9". race weight 3545# 7.87 @ 174.
so i dont get it, whats the point? what i don't understand is why you dont lighten that thing up and really go? ;)

3524# total, no driver.
LF 949#
RF 948#
LR 803#
RR 824#

With me in it, 3707# total.
LF 1025#
RF 958#
LR 864#
RR 861#

1968 RS, all steel.
SB with aluminum heads, intake, and WP.
Mcleod scattershield.
Aluminum C&R Racing radiator with integral cooler + lines + remote filter.
Hydroboost + remote PS cooler and reservoir.
Tremec TKO with 3" steel driveshaft.
Full interior with Sparco seats and fold-down rear.
Subrame connectors but no cage.
Front 13" C4 and 12" Z28 rear disk.
Speedtech upper and lower A-arms.
Front and rear spoilers.
Full bumpers and bumper gaurds.
AM/FM cassette with 6-disk CD changer, amp, and four speakers.
No spare tire.

She's not a feather.

Originally posted by 68rs406:

so i dont get it, whats the point? what i don't understand is why you dont lighten that thing up and really go? ;) The point is this... the car weighs what it is.
Certain people can`t or don`t want to believe it runs what it does...oh well, too bad, deal with it graemlins/boring.gif

Yes, we can drop the weight but we prefer to run it without gutting it.

Inching towards that 9 sec time slip, having fun all the while smile.gif

CarlC thank`s for the info...
Drag fab.. still waiting :rolleyes:
Maybe you can take it from here....You know, set it straight and tell CarlC he`s lying too tongue.gif

CarlC's weights were taken on my digital race car scales. I was fairly suprised it was that heavy.
David

Drag fab... I see you post over at DRR.

Why don`t we take you to task over there, and call out Dave @ CCRT racing, and tell him his 67 camaro with a small block running 10.`s on muscle doesn`t weigh 3400 lbs!!

I`m willing if you are...let`s go smile.gif

ahh, i see. those are good times at that weight, good luck on the 9's graemlins/thumbsup.gif . has it been hard on parts at all?
carl, what does the hydroboost weigh do you figure? and whats the tremec weigh? cant be much more than a th350 can it. my camaro hasn't been (4 corner) scaled yet (though i'm going to), but its not a lightweight; rs, stock interior power steering, power brakes, sub conn., cal tracs, aluminum headed 400. it weighed a bit over 3200. w/o me. i am surprised to see the weight you scaled it at, but hey, it is what it is right. graemlins/beers.gif

Drag Fabricator: Your claimed weight seems somewhat questionable to me, considering your and my car are very similar and i have aluminum heads. Your car,3175lbs. My is 3245lbs and i also have no cage. Both started out as 6 banger glide cars. Somebodies scales are out!

I don't know if I should tell my weight, I'm probably the lightest so far.

Full fendered, 6-pt moly cage, frame connectors, no interior except for Std door panels, headliner, stock dash, and cheap Home Depot carpet, & JAZ seat, fiberglass hood, full glass, heater, power steering, iron motor & P/G, and 1/2 stock tank of gas = 2980 lbs.

Originally posted by NotFastEnough68maro:
Drag Fabricator: Your claimed weight seems somewhat questionable to me, considering your and my car are very similar and i have aluminum heads. Your car,3175lbs. My is 3245lbs and i also have no cage. Both started out as 6 banger glide cars. Somebodies scales are out! I weighed my car in at Englishtown after a Divisional Meet. Your scales are out.

Mines 3310lbs with the driver.

[ 12-22-2004, 04:14 AM: Message edited by: Drag Fabricator ]

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this is a real waste of time.

[ 12-22-2004, 04:23 AM: Message edited by: Drag Fabricator ]

Everett, although not a Camaro i think i still have you by 20 #'s ..mine's 2960. I was planning to do bumpers ( well gut under the bumpers) autozone carpet,summitt seats, wich adds up to 100#'s more to bring the car in at 2860, I weighed the EX ( which can be remnoved in 5 min.) another 60 lbs that could be 2800. I think that would be about it for my car. still will have PS,PB,PDL, PW, stereo, heat. WIPERS.

Not bad for a car i paid $4750 to initially but and didn't have to fix ANY rust smile.gif

nice thread.

I talked to the owner of the dark green 69 camaro (that ran the Pump Gas Drags in
Hot Rod), at the Clash of Titans here in Houston.
I looked over the car, all iron 509, with just a glass hood, full interior, and had
everything under the hood - just shy of AC and PS. The guy told me its 3800+lbs with
him, he is a big boy, (250+ I'm guessin), yea its kinda hard to see how it could weigh
that much, but I guess the car is just under 3600 without driver.
Kinda hard to see how, but you have to figure that some of these street cars are like
a factory off the show room car - with added wt, like traction devises, roll bars, nitrous
systems, fuel systems, frame connectors.... the list goes on, added to them, so I can
see that they could be heavier then they were when new. Also some scales could be
off, I've seen the ones here at the track read 50lbs heavy, (I always scale my car when
at the track) so its good to scale your car more then once or use 4 corner scales which
are real accurate. Also I've seen chevelles weigh the same as camaros and have seen
chevelles weigh over 4000lbs - which is a boat.

Drag Fabricater: you could be right,my scales could be out. I am just a little confused then as to how a heavier car 3480 with driver vs your 3310 and your cubes,383vs my 355 can run that close of an et, your 11.60 to my 11.96. I also am running a 3:73 vs your 4:10 and a vaccum secondary holley. Did you not go to a mechanical double pumper. What gives other than your heavier than you think! Seems to me this has only has became a waste of time since you are being questioned on a few things.

If my car is 3580 race weight with me in it, I can see how the BBC guys will be heavier.

How much more does an iron head BBC weigh than an aluminum head, alum w/p, SBC? I'd guess about 200# --- so to go from 3580 to 3780 would be very easy with a different engine.

It's very believable that a BBC Camaro with full interior and cage could break that 3700# mark. I think even an SBC with iron heads and some sound deadening material could break that 3700# mark.

I don't know why there is all the arguement over car weight . . . Does it play into the whole bragging rights thing ? :rolleyes:

I always look at the wt. and mph of a car, by thais you can tall about how much HP the engine is makin. Big Reds makin 700HP, even if the car is a bit lighter, which aint bad for a streetable engine. Other things that can add up are the big 3 1/2" or 4" exhaust systems that we run on some of these BB cars, they gotta add wt. compared to the stock dinky pipes the cars came with. So my point is that some of us (like me) try to take out as much wt. as we can, while other leave the wt. there, and on top of that stick a lot of the bigger / heavier performance parts on it, which all adds up in the end - its a combination of a bunch of small things that make the wt. difference. Stock disc brakes are way heavier then stock drums for example. I scale a lot of parts that come off my car and try to move to parts which are lighter, but most people dont do that, thats why I think I have a pretty "light" BB street car at around 3300lbs with me.

Originally posted by NotFastEnough68maro:
Drag Fabricater: you could be right,my scales could be out. I am just a little confused then as to how a heavier car 3480 with driver vs your 3310 and your cubes,383vs my 355 can run that close of an et, your 11.60 to my 11.96. I also am running a 3:73 vs your 4:10 and a vaccum secondary holley. Did you not go to a mechanical double pumper. What gives other than your heavier than you think! Seems to me this has only has became a waste of time since you are being questioned on a few things. My "waste of time" remark is in reguards to Big Red's claims.

When i ran my 11.60 i annilated the tires on the starting line, spinning big time.
I've since got my car to leave well, but the tune was off on my passes and the car was slow, however going 1.55 60fts.
I'll kill those best's next season.
I've been working out a few bugs this season, afterall thats what happens on the first season of a new combo.

I have hundreds of pictures of my car on my website, showing every aspect of the build. If you question my weight, go look at the pictures, and you'll see that i have everything that i say i have.

you're nearly 4 tenths slower then me, when you find those 4 tenths, you can tell me how "close" it is.

Tell you what, when i scale the car next season, i'll even take pictures of the weight display with the car on the scales at Englishtown.

[ 12-22-2004, 02:31 PM: Message edited by: Drag Fabricator ]

Rafel,
did you get a box full of parts delivered by the man in the brown truck today?

Drag Fab:


me---------------------------you
aluminum heads------------------cast iron
aluminum rad--------------------copper brass
standard brakes-----------------power assist
10 bolt-------------------------12 bolt
aluminum waterpump--------------cast iron
elec.fan no shroud------------mech,clutch,shroud
no heater hose------------------heater hoses
alum crank pulley---------------steel
alum power steer pulley---------steel
3245 lbs-----------------------3180 lbs

Hummmmm?

"My "waste of time" remark is in reguards to Big Red's claims."

You still don`t get it.
Dave @ CCRT over at DRR has a 67 camaro like yours with a small block and like I said he run`s 10.0`s on motor at 3400 lbs
Yet, I don`t see over there questioning his "claims".

I`m still waiting for you to tell me why our drive line in your car, still doesn`t add up to 3500+ lbs..??? how simple can it be?? graemlins/clonk.gif graemlins/clonk.gif graemlins/clonk.gif , do the math and post back,

The HB adds some but not too much compared to a vacuum booster. With lines and hoses it can't be more than 10 lbs more. I should loose 2x that weight around my gut and be 4x better off.

The improved performance of the HB over old booster is, IMO, no comparison, and worth every pound.

A bare TKO and a TH350 are likely close, but throw in the scattershield and the manual setup likely is a bit heavier. The car has an aluminum flywheel so that helps both the overall and rotational mass.

Big Red: I think he must have forgot to tell us about having the complete body acid dipped!

WOW SOMETHING MUST BE WRONG WITH MY CAMARO THEN with no motor or tarnny it comes in at 2,910 and with engine bb and trans and all the junk including me 3.300

Originally posted by NotFastEnough68maro:
Drag Fab:


me---------------------------you
aluminum heads------------------cast iron
aluminum rad--------------------copper brass
standard brakes-----------------power assist
10 bolt-------------------------12 bolt
aluminum waterpump--------------cast iron
elec.fan no shroud------------mech,clutch,shroud
no heater hose------------------heater hoses
alum crank pulley---------------steel
alum power steer pulley---------steel
3245 lbs-----------------------3180 lbs

Hummmmm? Yup, something is WRONG with your scale!

Originally posted by NotFastEnough68maro:
Big Red: I think he must have forgot to tell us about having the complete body acid dipped! do i EVER leave out the details???

I believe i've posted my combo down to the SPARK PLUGS in the car. Infact i'll post the jetting and air bleeds as well.

I'd appreciate a little backup here, as i do post any info requested on my car.

[ 12-22-2004, 09:30 PM: Message edited by: Drag Fabricator ]

isn't it kind of trivial to be questioning someone's claims on their weight?

no one really has anything to benefit by lying, so why not just take them for their word?

Originally posted by 1Fast69chevy:
no one really has anything to benefit by lying, so why not just take them for their word? You may be on to something there...

Brian
I got a nice RCA vcr ;)
I'll let you know how it goes graemlins/thumbsup.gif

I don't have any idea of what my car weighs exactly. I do know what it runs though, and thats what matters, isn't it. As long as I can dial it accurately, why be overly concerned with a few pounds one way or the other on a bracket car? It will be a little heavier next year when I finally get the roll bar in.

Rafel,
LOL! let me know if you need any help. I forgot to put the pictures in it, so i'll post them on my website.

Still waiting... :rolleyes:

Prostreet 67 camaro. Car weighs 3470 + I`m 330 lbs. = 3800 lbs. Full interior with extra sound deadener, heavy Corbeau seats, stereo with sub and multiple amps, full cage with x brace, etc. 8.8:1 compression 496 BBC with aluminum heads, Doug Nash 5 speed, 9" with Nodular case, detroit locker, 35 spline axles and heavy GM disc brakes. 3-1/2" oval X pipe exhaust with tailpipes. Cruise control and 15 gallon fuel cell. Driven 5500 miles this past year including part of the Power tour. Ran 10.87 @ 125 mph with a crappy 1.58 60` time and no tuning, through the exhaust and driven to and from the track 40 miles each way.

Originally posted by Drag Fabricator:
I'd appreciate a little backup here, as i do post any info requested on my car. [/QB]Ok then..., tell us how much your car would weigh with a Big block Gen VI stroker, TH400 and Dana 60.??

I`m not going to let this slide, now if you would please, give us an idea on the weight.

It`s is about credibility here, MINE to be exact!

I have this TEENAGER here on one of my favorite sites saying that my posts are "BOGUS",
I`m not too thrilled with that...know what I mean??

I`m still waiting for your answer.. :rolleyes:

3400 - 3500lbs with that drivetrain, and 3450-3550 with a Chrome Moly 6 point roll bar and ME in the driver seat in both of those equations.

I'm no longer a Teenager as of Yesterday, but none the less, i have built every aspect of my car, and i'm doing quite well for someone my age.

[ 12-23-2004, 05:53 PM: Message edited by: Drag Fabricator ]

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[ 12-23-2004, 05:52 PM: Message edited by: Drag Fabricator ]

Oh common, knock it off . . . :rolleyes:

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[ 12-23-2004, 05:54 PM: Message edited by: Drag Fabricator ]

Originally posted by Eric68:
Oh common, knock it off . . . :rolleyes: I agree!

Jody

then close the post and tell Red here to get off my back and stop fallowing me from website to website and attacking me.

It's a little irritating to give someone tuning advice and have some clown tell me that i "try to hard".

I understand Brian and I wasn't singling you out. The thread has a lot of good info, I don't want to shut it down. We're not at that point yet anyway, just trying to get things back on course.

Jody

i'll edit my post, but i offer quite a bit of knowledge to this board, and i get irritated when people like our friend BIGRED here chose to discredit me becuase of my age.
Where he hasnt ever even posted who exactly he is.

Thanks Brian.

Jody

I'd be curious if anyone has first-hand weight data on the Dana 60, 10 bolt, 12 bolt, and 9". I have heard that there is a big difference in weight between the Dana and the 10 bolt.

Same for transmissions. I have heard the TH400 is a bit heavier than a TH350, but am not sure how much.

i have a fully loaded 10 bolt in my barn, if you like me to weigh it.

the fully loaded 12 bolt is in the car. Didnt weight it, but it aint light, especially with a posi and aftermarket gears. Maybe Freddie Byars can enlighten us.

I've heard worst case 50-60lbs dana over the 12 bolt, and 50lbs TH-400 over the TH-350.

Well then, That wasn`t too hard, now, was it!?

3500 lbs in your car, a 67 camaro, toss on a few extra pounds for a 69 model and bingo there we are in full agreement.

BTW..Your "friend" was given similar opportunity to respond to the same accusations and he chose to hide rather than respond :rolleyes:

I`ll even forgive you for the "clown" comment, so lets move on graemlins/waving.gif

my car also does not have an aluminum radiator or glass hood.

Jody
Thats for being patient with us on this post and not jumping the gun... because this is a good thread. You wont find me kissin up to nobody - youre doing a fine job here
graemlins/thumbsup.gif ;)
Also I have a TH350 and TH400 sittin in the garage, and am off next week, so I'll try to weigh both and post the poundage.
But like I said before, I think its all the small things that make the cars heavier, never weighed the front seats in my car but they were heeeavy.

Originally posted by Eric68:
I'd be curious if anyone has first-hand weight data on the Dana 60, 10 bolt, 12 bolt, and 9". I have heard that there is a big difference in weight between the Dana and the 10 bolt.

Same for transmissions. I have heard the TH400 is a bit heavier than a TH350, but am not sure how much. When I pull my 10 bolt to put in the 9" I will weigh them both and let you know smile.gif

WildBillyT and Rafel -- that would be AWESOME info :D

I've got an aluminum head 468" BBC sittin in my garage -- now if I only had a way to weigh it . . .

Anyone with a Dana 60 out there?

We could really put together some good info here If we can post some accurate weight data. graemlins/thumbsup.gif

I just weighed a complete '67 Camaro 12-bolt August '66 dated rear. It weighed 215 lb. That was complete with drums.

Here's some technical/scientific data regarding rear diff weight. My old 8.5 10 bolt posi I could pick-up and chunk in the back of my truck without much hassle/strain. The new Moser 12 bolt/spool I was able to do the same but afterwards I had to turn around and pick up my left nut. :eek: :rolleyes:

I also have a complete Moser 12-bolt :D sitting on the floor along with a TH-400 and a TH-350. I'll weigh it all when I get home from the holidays.

I also have a th400 and a th350 minus fluid and convertors that I could weigh. Think the wife will get upset if I use the bathroom scales?

I have a PG full of fluid w/ converter - if anyone's interested I'll weigh it.

Originally posted by BPOS:
I have a PG full of fluid w/ converter - if anyone's interested I'll weigh it. Definately!

My friend runs a 67 with a 355, al heads, TH-350, full stock interior, steel GM cowl hood, 12-bolt and it goes 3100 lb, 3270 with him in it.

Mine weighed 3050 lb with a SBC 4-speed, full deluxe interior, 12-bolt and GM cowl hood.

you have to be kidding!!!nothing to do today???

My '67 weighs between 3175lb and 3219lb without driver (tolerance on weighing-bridge.....it was one for trucks smile.gif )

'67 coupe, deluxe interior, stock 305ci, 10bolt posi, TH350, front disks, PW, PB, PS, very heavy 'custom :D ' white carpet.

I guess I can make it less heavy by simply removing the heavy non-stock 'carpet' and putting anotherone in with original thicknes.