: 68 D91 Stripe Width
flyingskibiker Mar 23rd, 10, 01:23 AM I did some searching on here after stumbling upon the topic burried w/in another thread. If one looks at the '68 AIM, there are some conflicts with what is being said in the various threads. :confused:
I have a D91 on my 11C car. I bought it in '83. It APPEARS to have original paint. But the stripe is a lot wider than what is in the AIM. Someone in a thread said they took the measurements off their car before repainting it. That D91 is wider than the 4.20" in the AIM. Another person said the widths differred between '67 and '68. Another said to use the D90 measurements and continue them down. Which is another thing.... The D90 in UPC D90 and the D90 in UPC L48 have different measurements! :sad: My stripe is wider then all of them! The threads I read are from '03-'06. Maybe there is new "data"?
From '68 AIM:
UPC D91, sheet A1, pg. 238, overall width 4.20"
UPC D90, sheet A1, pg. 237, overall width 5.25"
UPC L48, sheet A5, pg. 295, overall width 4.687"
Mine is almost 6"!
What gives? I hope to have mine repainted one day. It would be nice to know what is right...or at least possible. I kind of like the wider version. :o
Garfields Maro Mar 23rd, 10, 10:21 PM Well, I certainly dont know...never realized there's a difference between the L48 stripe, which goes past the door, on to the 1/4 panel and D90 which stops before the end of the door. All 3 stripes you've listed from the AIM are different stripes.
Is it possible your stripe isn't original ? Would be nice to hear from others with the D91 "bumble bee" .... original or from the repro stencils......
flyingskibiker Mar 23rd, 10, 11:33 PM It's possible. But I don't see any other colors anywhere on the car. I guess they could have stripped it down to metal back in the 70s and repainted it. I'll be checking for the correct overspray when I take it all appart for painting... My trim tag is missing. Always has been. So, no help there...
Garfields Maro Mar 24th, 10, 01:26 AM fwiw (not much), I doubt the "L48" or SS stripe in the AIM ever made it into production....never seen the stripe go past the door. Apparently the D90 took it's place ???.....and jmo (again, not worth much), but think the Bumble Bee oughta be about the same width as the 39....er.. 427 emblem ;) :bow: :thumbsup:
rogerh Mar 24th, 10, 12:59 PM If you are talking strictly about the bumblebee strip, the 68s and the 67s are the same width. The width of the 67 L48 and the 68 D91 are the same, which is 4.20". None of the strips that I have seen that are original are 6” wide.
Roger
Indy 69 Mar 24th, 10, 01:47 PM A little info for all to share from the CRG website.
"In early models the D91 "Bumble-Bee" stripe was standard on SS and available on any other non-Z28 model. In Jan '68 the D90 stripe became available and replaced the D91 stripe as standard on SS."
flyingskibiker Mar 25th, 10, 01:11 AM I am familiar w/ the usage from CRG. I have been chasing this for some time. Not the width, but what is correct, etc. for my car in all areas.
There are members on here and others that are adimant (sure wish I could spell!) about their car being original. They say that the width of their stripe is wider than what is in their respective AIMs. I also heard rumor that the '67 and '68 were different widths. I'm not offended or anthing... I will just have to keep my eye out for D91 stripes and check out their width and originality. I will also be trying to decide if I like a stripe that narrow (4.20")...
I will at least make sure it's wide enough for the emblem (going to leave it 396. Bought w/ a '67 style turbo jet 427 emblems on it)! 396 SS is the look I want to stay with...
Thanks for the input!
Garfields Maro Mar 25th, 10, 01:53 AM Any chance you could post a pic ? http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp266/garfieldsmaro/rolleyes.gif (http://s418.photobucket.com/albums/pp266/garfieldsmaro/?action=view¤t=rolleyes.gif)
From the original pix I've seen in brochures, manuals, etc, it looks like the engine emblem (for 68)is right close to the same width as the B.bee.
Somethin to look at, if ya haven't already... http://www.stencilsandstripes.com/pr_chev_cam.asp
barraza Mar 25th, 10, 03:03 PM A subject I have been looking for the answer to also. My 68 is a 11E build ss-350 with the bumble bee stripe. My dad bought it new. It was repainted in the 70's after a minor shunt that bent the header panel. I remember taking the header panel to the painter to copy the stripe, unfortunately we no longer have the original header. The stripe the painter put back on measured within a smidgen of the dimensions in the AIM pg 238 D91. I also have a stripe stencil from http://www.stencilsandstripes.com/pr_chev_cam.asp that matches those dimensions. But where it gets interesting is the lower part of the stripe, where it bends behind the bumper. The AIM shows the forward portion of the stripe curving around to the lower valence, and the rear of the stripe going more or less straight down from the engine size emblem to the fender extension. I have never seen a car with the stripes painted this way except in early 67 ad photos. My car in old pictures clearly has the original stripe bend forward, keeping it's width consistent, and ending behind the edge of the bumper. Another anomaly is the AIM stripe D91 shows the outer pinstripe connected front to rear on the portion of the stripe below the engine size emblem. The stencils are not made this way, and no one repaints it this way, but old pictures of my car clearly show these two stripe connected as per the AIM drawing. I recently had my car painted and the painter used the stencil and the AIM drawing to repaint it like it appears in the AIM. It didn't look so good, kind of like the stripe had a flared out look at the bumper, I ended up having him take it off, and it is stripeless for now.
flyingskibiker Mar 25th, 10, 11:44 PM I have all the brochures and have seen many ads. BUT, as we know, some of those cars are mock up type cars specifically for the ads...
I bought the stencil kit, too. That is when I first noticed the difference.... It was created from a '67.
I'll continue to do my own research. If they came only one way, then it is what it is. If not, then I'll have to decide what I want to do...
barraza Mar 26th, 10, 06:09 AM I have pictures of my car with me standing next to it from when it was new, I was 7. The stripe is no wider than the 350 emblem, in fact in the picture it looks like the stripe is narrower than the emblem. I just went to the garage and measured the emblem to be about 4.4 inches. Since you are on the west coast, yours is probably a Los Angeles built car, mine is a Norwood car. They were built only 2 weeks apart though. I am interested to know whether your pinstripes are connected like in this illustration? Mine are connected in the picture taken when it was new.
http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac260/16j6c6/photo-3.jpg
flyingskibiker Mar 26th, 10, 11:40 PM Yah, I also noticed that missing piece of the stripe that doesn't appear (these days) on any cars or stencils... Mine doesn't have it, either. But remember, the stencils were made from an "original" car. So, in my opinion due to browsing all the threads, they are only a representative of what supposedly came on that one car. I've read on here and CRG that if one believes their car to be original and it doesn't fit w/ what is judged/deemed original, they should make their own decisions on how they want it refinished... One member had a body colored firewall that he believed to be original. This advise applied to him. But they also told him that if he were to have it judged at the highest level, he would be docked if it wasn't painted black... Anyway, I doubt if I will ever have mine judged like that! Heck, it's even an unproven SS... Yes, it has all the signs except the tire size sticker (even though one could order a different size). But...
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