who makes them, headers fro angle plug heads, 1 5/8 prim.
thanks

What heads are you using, someone may be using the same heads and can help you out.

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68 RS, Ash Gold,pwr windows,Hounds tooth

Cerbz - if I may... I also have angle plug head and want to go to headers this winter. I have Sportsman II angle plug heads with power steering in a '69. I don't want to have to dimple the headers. Anybody found the right combination.

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...Dennis
The Cars:
'69 RS Convertible w/SS trim (http://www.camaroslimited.com/memberscars/den.htm)
'96 Z28SS #1679 of 2410 w/all the SLP Stuff
The Club:
Camaros Limited Nor-Cal (http://camaroslimited.com)

Cerbz, angle plugs heads usually clear most headers, even though the book will not say so. Header manufacturers don't want the liability with all the different cylinder head manufactureres out there with their own designs. Headman will state "will fit Cheverolet angle plug only". Their design is the same as the Dart and World steel heads and most of their aluminum heads. For your car Dennis, the Headman shorty style #6800 is a good fit with that saginaw box. I use the 65003 race style header in the 67 Camaro which is 1 3/4". Those Sportsman are angle plug. But they are the 1st generation ones made by Dart. Since Maskins and buddy's had a falling out and split the two company's They seem to have their own way in the designs now. May not be exactly the same. The headers I use may not get around your big Saginaw box. That one you may need to look at, I am not sure. None of the header people will say theirs fit the first generation A/C boxes on the firewall. They are close and the heat melts the lower edge of the fiberglass in some cases. The plugs on your Sportsman, Do they angle downward somewhat also ? If so, there may be one tube of the 6800's that I see can be close. Using the shorty plugs from Accel or the Bosch should clear. The Bosch are Platinum, so as long as you are not running a CD box like MSD you can use them. CD's will blow the platinum away usually. Well outa here for now hope this helps. Galen

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S/B Chevy Lover
67 Camaro street car
10:50's @ 128 on motor w/383 cid
79 Z28 w/383 9.1:1 3.73:1 Restoring stock apearance
13:40's @ 101 stock exh.& intake& Qjet
smog legal
Camaro Lover

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Galen W. Rouse:
The plugs on your Sportsman, Do they angle downward somewhat also ? If so, there may be one tube of the 6800's that I see can be close. Using the shorty plugs from Accel or the Bosch should clear. Galen
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They do angle down... Is there any performance loss with the 6800's vrs full equal length tube headers?

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...Dennis
The Cars:
'69 RS Convertible w/SS trim (http://www.camaroslimited.com/memberscars/den.htm)
'96 Z28SS #1679 of 2410 w/all the SLP Stuff
The Club:
Camaros Limited Nor-Cal (http://camaroslimited.com)

Hello Dennis, I have my keyboard working again. I filled it up with pepsi last night. It doesn't like it. May be over to best buy in awhile. But anyway, the header thing. The 6800 Headman is a shorty style header that will allow plenty of ground clearance. As far as performance loss? What do you run now? Over manifolds, a definate gain. They are 1 5/8" tube w/3" collector. Compaired to the performance potential of an 1 3/4" race style header on an engine that is making over 475+ HP, Yes there would be a decrease in the amount of flow capability and the loss of scavenging from the longer and larger tube. I am thinking that you are not looking for every bit of horspwer in the upper range in the convertable. As far as increasing torque with those heads on a street engine they will do that. Anything quicker than 13.99 the convertable, and you will have to install a roll bar on any IHRA or NHRA sanctioned track. The larger tube headers would also work for you but that big saginaw box may be cause a little surgery to be had. But not too big a deal. Hooker has a full length header as does flowtech. I think the hooker is a #2451 it is a one size fits many cars header, but should be ok. That is if Holley doesn't make too many changes back there in Kentucky to them. Fell off and running again, stopped in fore a few minutes. Hope that helps, I can call a buddy and see if they have a problem w/ power steering or the downward angle on the plugs. The latter should be ok I think though. Galen

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S/B Chevy Lover
67 Camaro street car
10:50's @ 128 on motor w/383 cid
79 Z28 w/383 9.1:1 3.73:1 Restoring stock apearance
13:40's @ 101 stock exh.& intake& Qjet
smog legal
Camaro Lover

I have the Hooker 2130 ceramic coated headers on my Bowtie angle-plug cast iron headed A/C car. They are listed by Hooker to fit A/C and angle plug applications. The #8 tube is pretty tight around the evaporator box and the #2 tube required a little massaging to adequately clear the idler arm. They are 1 5/8" diameter primary, 3" collector type. Even though it's pretty tight at the evaporator box changing the plugs is much easier than having the factory manifolds in place.

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I was looking on the Hedman web site and couldn't find anything on the 6800's the closest was 68604 and they are full length and won't work with my steering... The only reason I asked about performance is I keep hearing equal length full size are the best and shorties will leave me wanting more. I am tempted to stay with stock but getting to the plugs is a mess right now and the boots are getting burnt some as well! Sounds like shorties are the way I should go!

Thanks for all the info... Galen around here they are letting ragtops go into the 13's without saying too much.

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...Dennis
The Cars:
'69 RS Convertible w/SS trim (http://www.camaroslimited.com/memberscars/den.htm)
'96 Z28SS #1679 of 2410 w/all the SLP Stuff
The Club:
Camaros Limited Nor-Cal (http://camaroslimited.com)

Dennis, I sent an E-mail with the hedman page attached. It has the 68600 on there to check out. The 68604 is a stepped header. Check it out, I have very good luck in street apps. with all the ones I have sold. Oh, and that is a very nice car by the way. That is extremly clean and straight I see. Take care, Galen

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S/B Chevy Lover
67 Camaro street car
10:50's @ 128 on motor w/383 cid
79 Z28 w/383 9.1:1 3.73:1 Restoring stock apearance
13:40's @ 101 stock exh.& intake& Qjet
smog legal
Camaro Lover

I put hookers on my ZZ4 angled plug heads. JEGS

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68SS ZZ4, 4sp T-10, 12 bolt, getting painted

78Z28, 330hp vortec, TH350, 10 bolt (just finished)

Galen,

I got the email, thanks for all the help. I guess I need glasses, I still don't see the 68000 listed. I did find their phone number and will give them a call next week.

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...Dennis
The Cars:
'69 RS Convertible w/SS trim (http://www.camaroslimited.com/memberscars/den.htm)
'96 Z28SS #1679 of 2410 (http://www.camaroslimited.com/graphics/memcars/96ss.jpg)
The Club:
Camaros Limited Nor-Cal (http://camaroslimited.com)