I have been haunted by this decision ever since I started this project. I just think the car deserves a nut and bolt restoration but not sure if I can get the right money for it. Ok the car:

It is a 68 Rally Sport Z/28 that is original AA code black on black deluxe interior. I had it certified by Jerry MacNeish a year ago. It is a 12D (early) date build and has the cowl plenum option. It is disassembled and in need of some rust repair in the floor pans, trunk pan, and rockers. Since the black was discontinued on January 1, 1968, this could be the last black AA code Z/28 made. No way to prove that obviously.

It seems like the money is still out there for rare projects such as mine. Unfortunately mine is missing the original drivetrain. I have a correct original stamped CE block that is a dead on match original MO code dated 12-19. I have most of the correct engine parts except the pistons. Including, original distributor 1111266 dated 7G20, Crankshaft 3279, GM chrome valve covers with correct "O" stamping, 610 intake dated 12-8-67, List 4053 carb (restored) dated 705, etc. Original tags are in place, all original glass and front windows are Astro Ventilation. Hidden VINS are a match. Jerry checked everything.

The car has a 12 bolt posi in it from a 1967 with a PI code. I also have a perfect match 12 bolt posi BV code dated 12-18-67 that is original gears and posi and does not need rebuilding. So, you get two 12 bolt posi rears.

I have a completely rebuilt M22 4-speed that is VIN stamped from a Camaro that was aclose match in date of Mfg (P8S24). I have at least 3 original Muncie shifters and 1 Hurst shifter. Also have correct bell housing.

The subframe was completely rebuilt except for the brake calipers. It has the very rare original 2 piece rotors in good shape. I have most of the original disc brakes except master cylinder.

Jerry said the interior was in very good condition except for the drivers seat and carpet. The deluxe door panels are nice and the original dash pad has no cracks.

The body is not horrible but needs some attention. The floor pans are cut out on the pans but the trans. tunnel is still intact. The subframe is not attched to the car. The rear quarters had been skinned years ago and looks they did a good job. I also have an extra door, trunk lid with no spoiler holes, nice original pair of front RS fenders. I have 2 sets of DF coded rally wheels. One set are the very rare early ones with the DF upside down and the date on the inside. Factory rear antenna and floor console with no gauges.

Some of the new parts also included are:

all brake lines
fuel lines
NOS derby caps (full set in GM box)
NOS front bumper
NOS RS gas cap (correct early one)
NOS AM radio
NOS 302 fender emblems
NOS fender "rally sport" emblems

I have almost everything needed to put the car together except for replacement floor pans, hardware for the body, and a gas tank. I also have the very rare cowl plenum air cleaner that has been fully restored and the AC filter is NOS in the box. I have a price that I need to get out of it but can we get some guesses as to the value as it is in project form? I am afraid they are going to be too low and I would be better off just selling it piece by piece. I mean just add up the value of the BV code 12 bolt, cowl plenum air cleaner, DF wheels, CE block with MO code (not a restamp), 266 distributor, intake carb, and NOS parts.

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Sorry I cant help with a price, but I have a question. Is the block a CE or MO? I cant see how it could be both.
Ron

It is both and Jerry confirmed that it is not restamped. It has a factory V1219MO stamp and then it has a CE 8 656 8 0 number to the left instead of a VIN.

Sorry I cant help with a price, but I have a question. Is the block a CE or MO? I cant see how it could be both.
Ron

Sounds like it's a factory replacement motor.

...to cut right to an answer? ...I'd say sell it complete.
For obvious reasons (being an enthusiast) it would be nice to see that car make it back to it's original glory for starters.
The other thought is, ...for what the car is, ...I'd say in most cases any person interested in it, ...would be interested in it for what it is. With that said, ...I do believe selling it 'all/whole' would bring more.
What will it bring, ...that's a whole 'nother question, ...I don't know where to begin...

...very cool car though, ...hope it finds a good home

I would put the most correct parts together,and remove any extras and sell them seperate.That will give you maximum return on your investment.Sell it with the correct rear,transd and one good shifter and all the engine parts.Good luck.

As suggested, sell complete.
Nice car, correct year. Hope it goes to a good home.

I think this is good advice. I would still like some estimates on what it is worth. Please, start guessing/arguing but I need to know if I am in the ballpark. I have seen one of these black/black RS Z/28 sell in the $80k range. I have a lot tied up in the car just gathering correct parts. I don't want to be the first to throw in a number and manipulate the price. It has a clear Texas title in my name. I also have owner history back to 1982. I will let that iinfo go with the car. Thanks, Todd

I would put the most correct parts together,and remove any extras and sell them seperate.That will give you maximum return on your investment.Sell it with the correct rear,transd and one good shifter and all the engine parts.Good luck.

I'll throw out a number/range.........this is a hard one to price.......$10-25k?

I think it depends on what all is included, what the body looks like in person, and who you find.

Really dig the car and wish you the best either way.....would love to see that return to its glory!

i would put the most correct parts together,and remove any extras and sell them seperate.that will give you maximum return on your investment.sell it with the correct rear,transd and one good shifter and all the engine parts.good luck.

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Given that it is an Z/28, RS, Plenum and Black, but missing the original drivetrain--I'd offer an uneducated guess of $25K to $30K.

Is there any extra value in a plenum car, with none of the plenum stuff still with it? My gut says, "No," but I'm asking for opinions.

Is there any extra value in a plenum car, with none of the plenum stuff still with it? My gut says, "No," but I'm asking for opinions.

...I believe he indicated he has all these parts with the car...?

If it helps I just paid 8K for a 68 Z that needs restored, has all the correct dated coded parts except for the engine. Mine is LeMans blue, with blue interior. Mine is a non-RS, non-deluxe interior,non plenum intake car, and has been off the road since 1979. Now I might have over paid for mine but the colors were what I always have wanted so I was willing to pay more. I would think that yours has to be worth more than mine, so I will throw out 15K. This is just a WAG.
hope it helps

I have a similar car minus the rust.So valued from mine 15k plus the CE MO,cowl plenum,misc parts,color and Jerry's docs.Maybe 22-25k.Jeff

I have all original GM Cowl Plenum air cleaner including NOS filter. The only part that is not orginal GM is the plastic duct, and it is a new reproduction.

I guess I will start with the classifieds here and see if there is any serious interest.

PM me if you want to get rid of a shifter.

I think that the price will depend on the person making an offer, as you are selling a car that very few potential buyers would buy. Your demographic will be limited to serious collectors looking for that specific car and guys with the skill and means to complete the car. That car is going to need at least 50K to get running probably even more depending on who builds it. I went through a simular situation with a car in worse shape and no options to speak of. The good news is you have a Z28 which is very desirable. It will also depend on how bad you want to get rid of it. If you want it gone take the best offer. If you think it is worth more and you are in no rush try waiting a while and hold out for more cash.

Either way I agree that parting out the car would be a crime, and it deserves to finished and enjoyed. Good luck. You should be able to get 15K minimum as long as the car is solid. Start making major deductions for any serious rust issues.

Perhaps the shop that is building chicks 68Z28 would buy it or knows a potential buyer as they look like they have a few Camaro builds going. I would also ask Jerry McNeish if he knows anyone looking for this type of project. My guess is that if you can't sell it here, you are going to have to network big time, as it is unlikely that some one in your neighbourhood is looking for a project such as yours.

best of luck I hope you get what you want for it.

Well said. I have already contacted Jerry M. through email. He seemed to be generally be excited of the cars existence when he documented it. It combines a rare set of options, color, and an early production date for a Z28. It has a lot going for it but still a matter of what a buyer is willing to pay and what their ability is as far as the restoration is concerned. This is not the best economy we are experiencing as well. Thanks for your input.

I think that the price will depend on the person making an offer, as you are selling a car that very few potential buyers would buy. Your demographic will be limited to serious collectors looking for that specific car and guys with the skill and means to complete the car. That car is going to need at least 50K to get running probably even more depending on who builds it. I went through a simular situation with a car in worse shape and no options to speak of. The good news is you have a Z28 which is very desirable. It will also depend on how bad you want to get rid of it. If you want it gone take the best offer. If you think it is worth more and you are in no rush try waiting a while and hold out for more cash.

Either way I agree that parting out the car would be a crime, and it deserves to finished and enjoyed. Good luck. You should be able to get 15K minimum as long as the car is solid. Start making major deductions for any serious rust issues.

Perhaps the shop that is building chicks 68Z28 would buy it or knows a potential buyer as they look like they have a few Camaro builds going. I would also ask Jerry McNeish if he knows anyone looking for this type of project. My guess is that if you can't sell it here, you are going to have to network big time, as it is unlikely that some one in your neighbourhood is looking for a project such as yours.

best of luck I hope you get what you want for it.

I have a spare one I am quite sure.

PM me if you want to get rid of a shifter.