I recieved this SBC Rotating Assembly quote from a distrubitor and want opinions on wheather this is a good deal:

Wiseco Pro Tru Forge Pistons Part# PT020H4 SBC 400 4.165 (.040) for 6.0" Rods

Eagle 4340 Steel Crank "Internally Ballance" 3.750 stroke for 6.0" Rods

Eagle Connecting Rods ESP 4340 H-Beam 6.0 Rods

Clevite H-Bearing Main and Rod
shipping Include:

Distributor Response:
I can sell you that rotating assembly for $1679 Price includes balancing and fitting of the entire rotating assembly.


[This message has been edited by DTL504 (edited 01-20-2003).]

Yeah that sounds about right. I am doing my friends small block right now and a friend/local engine builder is getting $1600.00ish for the ESP rotating assembly- 6.0 4340 H beam/4340 crank/JE with file fit rings and bearings.

sounds pretty good to me

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Sounds really good...I paid $1200+ for mine, and it was a cast steel crank, with SIR I-beams rods....so sounds like a good deal...

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406, Dart Pro 1 aluminum heads, Comp 294s solid,Eagle rotating assembly with 6.0" rods,JE forged pistons,Edelbrock RPM intake with Holley 750 HP, all MSD ignition

I paid $900 for my cast Eagle kit (new cast Eagle crank, SIR rods, KB pistons, Cl 77 bearings, Hastings rings, flexplate, dampener - unbalanced) 2 years ago. Then I had it balanced locally.

Price sounds OK to me, but I'd double check and find out exactly what internal balance means. Does it mean "ready for internal balancing", or "a claimer engine balance" or "full balance". Just ask him about how many grams the crank will be balanced to, and the rods, etc.

here's another place to look that usually has good prices www.dirttrackthunder.com (http://www.dirttrackthunder.com)

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Eric68:
Price sounds OK to me, but I'd double check and find out exactly what internal balance means. Does it mean "ready for internal balancing", or "a claimer engine balance" or "full balance". Just ask him about how many grams the crank will be balanced to, and the rods, etc.

here's another place to look that usually has good prices www.dirttrackthunder.com (http://www.dirttrackthunder.com) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Eric68
Thats who quoted me the price (dirttrackthunder). What type of balancing do he perform. Do you think this assembly is a Overkill for a street hot rod...



[This message has been edited by DTL504 (edited 01-21-2003).]

Straight from the website-this pertains to a 383 assembly but its prolly the same for yours:

The entire assembly is Professionally race balanced. Pistons w/rings, Rods, and Crankshaft. NOT A CHEAP CLAIMER BALANCE.


Overkill for a street Rod? Is there such a thing?! Eventually you will get tired with whatever times your running and you'll want more, nitrous, better heads, bigger cam....it goes on and on...yes its an addiction

Its just easier to make it faster when you don't have to worry about the bottem end.

WHats a cheap CLAIMER balance? They only balance half the assembly or something??

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CamaroNOTcamero:
WHats a cheap CLAIMER balance? They only balance half the assembly or something??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's the problem . . . noone seems to know exactly what a "claimer balance" is --- kind of like a 3/4 race cam. LOL I personally think its like having your tires balanced by a guy that uses an old tire machine, a 2 x 4, and some chalk instead of a computerized wheel balancer. I think its the same with a Claimer balance job, just in the "ball park."

Maybe someone else knows exactly what a "claimer balance" is. LOL

ps. Yeah, all the forged stuff is probably overkill, but if you are going overkill on the bottom end your money is well spent IMO. Just don't cheap out on the valvetrain or you'll wind up destroying that sweet low end when you drop a valve. http://www.camaros.net/forum/rolleyes.gif

I think a claimer balance means they claim to balance it, and then have you sign a dis-claimer that if something scatters, they won't be held liable.

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