I am going for the protouring/g machine look on my 69 Camaro(already got the 335's). The car will be mini tubbed. I want the low stance and but still want it to hook at the strip. I will run et streets for the track. I planned on going with drop spindles in the front to get the low look but still have a soft spring. For the rear I planned on dearching the springs . With the right traction bars will this type of set up hook ?
Traction bars will kill you in the corners and drag shocks arn't recomended for the street... You really can't have the best of both worlds (1.6 or better sec 60's and cornering on rails) but you can find products that give up a little in each direction and get the job done. Hotchkis rear 1 1/2" drop leafs in the rear are said to work about as well as slapper style traction bars when combined with a good shock. Disconnecting the end links from the sway bar when at the 1/4 mile track may help weight transfer too.
Do a search in the Brake and Suspension forum as suspensions have been hashed over dozens of times and there's lots of aftermarket stuff out there and most has been through the gauntlet here...
67RS502
Aug 4th, 03, 11:37 AM
Depends on how fast youre gonna run!
If - lets say you run 12s with a 1.65 60ft, then it wont matter what kind of suspension
set up you have, just stick the ET streets on it and it will hook. But if youre gonna
run in the 11s, then you may need more then just sticky tires to hook. Go and run
your car first, ET streets will hook a 12sec. or slower car easy graemlins/thumbsup.gif
I really dont car if it pulls 1 g in the corners. I just want decent handling . I figure the tires alone will help tons on the handling dept. At the track I will run ET streets so as long as the suspension isnt board stiff it should hook ok?
Like I said, do a search in the Brake and Suspension forum. Use several different key words to get info on different parts of your suspension. Drop spindles work well on trucks but there's been a ton of negative feed back on them for Camaros.
Guido67SS
Aug 5th, 03, 05:32 AM
Has alot to do with weight transfer when you get to low 12's amd quicker. Email me or take a look at my car to see what it takes to get into low 11's high tens, n/a of course.
Guido
67 Camaro Built with Cubic Money
My Car (http://camaroz28.cardomain.com/id/guido67ss)
fast
Aug 5th, 03, 05:47 AM
QA1 12 way adjustable shocks
or if $ is no object AFCO's are more linear
can gain alot in these alone
Lonnie67
Aug 5th, 03, 01:22 PM
Guido, if you haven't found 502 emblems yet, here you go. http://www.chevelle.danchuk.com/page128.html#9
The others are standard emblems.
Dennis, why will traction bars kill him in the corners? My car corners better with them. I've hit mid 1.6 60's with 'em too. Slapper bars.
Lonnie
Lonnie - I'm in no way a suspension expert so bare with my decriptions and maybe Tom or David will pipe up. When going into a corner a slapper bar is going to abruptly change the spring rate of the inboard spring when it makes contact as the spring is being compressed. This will tend to make the rear end unstable and more likely to to kick out causing the rear to become loose. This will be greatly multiplied on a rough surface where the suspension is being put through it's paces.
I took a look at your driver and if it's still setup the way the your website portrays it I'm inclined to say you are a better driver than your car is a "G" machine. Don't take that wrong as it's not an insult. IMO your car is too high, your 15" 205-70's up front are conducive to causing the front end to push with all that sidewall and I bet your rear end is all over the road when high speed cornering with slapper bars and those 28" tall 275-60's. Again don't take this wrong because you have an awesome Camaro with very impressive times for a 1320 burner let alone a daily driver! The fact that you say it's fast in the corners is a tribute to your driving skills. If you climbed behind the wheel of some of these true "G" machines you would see what I'm saying.
Now something like CalTracs ( http://www.calvertracing.com/info/info.htm ) that have constant contact with the spring and don't shock the spring like a slapper bar does might be a good comprimise but a set of Hotchkis springs or similar should provide just about as good of a hook and will be a major improvement in the corners...
Moving this to Brake and Suspension...