Greetings to all. Just bought my newest toy a 1969 Z28 tribute and thought I'd say hello to everyone!

Has a very nice 327 with Edelbrock aluminum heads, intake, carb, headers...etc. Factory AC (big deal in Texas), steering and 4 wheel power drum brakes.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_0rkl7NEF1qk/TFo0Qce9aEI/AAAAAAAAAQc/RjpQ2hED50k/s800/new12800019715.jpg


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I'm having the stripes in the rear fixed (wrong spacing) and adding some big brakes next week.

http://www.classicperform.com/Store/1955_1970_Fullsize_Cars/Images/6472FRBK-BB.jpg


It's had a full restoration and is incredibly straight and clean.

Built at Norwood in the 1st week of November 1969 so it's a late year 69.

Paint 59/59: Frost Green
Trim 723: Midnight Green Standard

It's a non SS X11 car.

I've never been big on green cars but this one got me... something different... I've always been a red or black car guy but I fell for it hook line and sinker. Should stand out nicely in a sea of other cars. The paint really pops in sunlight.

I'm looking at a Gear Vendors OD for the TH400 and may go to black interior at some point but it's just too clean to replace/dye right now. 3.73's in the rear.

The 327 is very nice, idles with AC nicely but has a real bark to it, very responsive.

I'm sure I'll start making it to some of the local shows and gatherings so if you are in the DFW area let me know what's going on.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_0rkl7NEF1qk/TFo0ZCR0_EI/AAAAAAAAARs/3jbucbTkMhw/s800/new12800025326.jpg

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Very nice score. Congrats. Enjoy the ride!

Welcome to team camaro!

Thanks.

The photos don't do it justice. I was there today to go over some details, going to restripe and reclear the whole car, replace the door weather stripping...was hard and cracked, and of course the 13" brakes. Took it for a spin down the road before teardown.. man she hits hard! Really nice powerplant.

Should be ready late next week.

Welcome Brad and very nice car.

Welcome to Team Camaro. Nice car.

Checkout this post for DFW.

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=183495

Don't be too quick to "fix" the stripes in the rear. The early built '69 model cars had stripes that were closer together than later. Yours may be correct for the early production cars. I do say that without seeing them myself, there may be other issues you wish to correct.

Don't be too quick to "fix" the stripes in the rear. The early built '69 model cars had stripes that were closer together than later. Yours may be correct for the early production cars. I do say that without seeing them myself, there may be other issues you wish to correct.

As I stated above, it's a November 69 car but more than that the stripes are all wrong. The spacing and width up front is wrong but better than the back. Notice that the stripes don't extend to the back window (I know, they terminate just below it)? The outer edges of the stripes should also be roughly (forget the exact measurements) even with the outside edge of the back glass AND the stripes should not extend below the spoiler on to the edge of the decklid... just all wrong:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_0rkl7NEF1qk/TFo0N03j1pI/AAAAAAAAAQE/60T_BHAmmwA/s800/new12800017499.jpg

One other thing. I bought this from Atlas Muscle Cars ( http://www.atlasmusclecars.com ), north of McKinney in Blue Ridge. Matt and Harvey are good guys and not only do they keep some really great cars but they do all of their own work...very nice work at that.

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Welcome from Houston...nice car!

I wouldn't be in too much of a rush to change the Green interior. I was at the Camaro Nationals here in Canada in June and cars with colors you don't see much were a bug hit.
One thing I think really should be on a Z Tribute is the rear bumper guards. I like that color combo and the brakes will be a great addition.

I'm liking the green more and more. I love the frost green paint I've just always had and liked black interiors but I will give it time as it is too nice to mess with now.

As far as the bumper gaurds I have never really paid much attention. Not sure I like the Z gaurds.


http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/silverz1.jpg

I appreciate everyone's kind words and advice. This is my first 1st Gen so I am learning.

Welcome! Awesome looking car you have there! I really like your rims/tire combo! What are they?

But I'm probably stupid, but if it's a Z/28 tribute, shouldn't it have a DZ302 in it instead of a 327?
And I've never seen those rear stripes before, so my guess is they need to be changed ;)

Elias

I'm liking the green more and more. I love the frost green paint I've just always had and liked black interiors but I will give it time as it is too nice to mess with now.

As far as the bumper gaurds I have never really paid much attention. Not sure I like the Z gaurds.


http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/silverz1.jpg

I appreciate everyone's kind words and advice. This is my first 1st Gen so I am learning.

Since you are going with a Z/28 Tribute theme, and you are fixing the stripes, the bumperettes would complete the exterior Z/28 look. Once someone sees the automatic shfter they will know it isn't a Z. Although I did see a local Z that was changed to a 400 for racing. It was funny with the 4 speed brake pedal. i was an actuall X33 car.
I have had the bumperettes on all of my Zs and I have them on my 68. I do like them.

I guess the real question here is... how serious do I want to get about this car being a Z28 clone? Something for me to think about.

True, because you could keep the 327 and just delete the Z/28 badges or you can change it to a 302 or just get you an aftermarket one.

But I find an automatic quite a giveaway that you're not rolling in a Z...

Elias

Yeah... but she sure is pretty! Maybe one day I'll drop a Tremec in it.

Welcome! Awesome looking car you have there! I really like your rims/tire combo! What are they?

Elias

They are Torque Thrust II's I believe. 18's rear, 17 front. 275 rear, 245 front, Kumho Ecsta ASX, inexpensive, about 110-145.00/tire.

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I don't think they're TTII's...

http://image.vetteweb.com/f/27393229/vemp_1002_04_o+american_racing_torq_thrust_ii_whee l+american_racing.jpg

The tires look nice though !
And yes, she sure is damn pretty!

I don't think they're TTII's...

http://image.vetteweb.com/f/27393229/vemp_1002_04_o+american_racing_torq_thrust_ii_whee l+american_racing.jpg



Hmm.. obviously it's still in the shop, won't be ready until the end of the week, but I had assumed they were either TT II's or Foose... look closer to a Foose Legend but not exact unless it was an earlier version.
http://www.pitstopwheels.com/images/uploads/thumbs/thumb_Foose%20Legend%20Gray.jpg

Now I'm scratching my melon.... they aren't Boss 338's either....hmmmmmmmm

AHA! MB Old School! http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/wheels/mb_wheels/product/byName.do?tmn=Old+School&typ=Car%2FMinivan

Jep, they look the same if ya' ask me!
i'm off to bed now, see ya later!

PS : I've sent you a pm.

[QUOTE=American;1462756]As I stated above, it's a November 69 car but more than that the stripes are all wrong. The spacing and width up front is wrong but better than the back. Notice that the stripes don't extend to the back window (I know, they terminate just below it)? The outer edges of the stripes should also be roughly (forget the exact measurements) even with the outside edge of the back glass AND the stripes should not extend below the spoiler on to the edge of the decklid... just all wrong:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_0rkl7NEF1qk/TFo0N03j1pI/AAAAAAAAAQE/60T_BHAmmwA/s800/new12800017499.jpg

Yea, you gotta fix those rear stripes. After reading other postings I suggest you add the rear bumper guards and change out to a manual tranny in support of your Z tribute. If it is dressed properly you can't tell a 327 from a 302 so changing out the engine isn't really necessary. I do like the green paint.
But, it's your car. Do what you want.

All I am saying is I would change the bumperettes. I would fix the stripes and leave it as is. Check out my profile pic. It is a 68 coupe with Z stripes a 327 and turbo 400 auto trans. Everyone loves it. I would not bother with the Tremec. I looks awsome the way it is and I bet she runs great. It is not a real Z, it is a HOT ROD enjoy it.

Yep... they are for sure MB wheels from Discount Tire:

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/product/wheels/mbmos.glm.ang.jpg

I like TTII's better... But extra costs, extra costs...

I like TTII's better... But extra costs, extra costs...

Actually, the MB's are about the same price and I like the sharper edged of each spoke better... but hey, that's why they make more than one style of wheel and Henry Ford didn't stick with black.

Think I've got me a set of AutoMeter gauges bought off of CL for a good deal. New in the box. 5" Pro Comp speedo and tach and 2 1/16" fuel, volt, oil pressure and temp in the Sport Comp.

Should have them next week.

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"Grumbling" as he hears the words "Tribute".....

"Grumbling" as he hears the words "Tribute".....

Hate to upset you ... .what shall I call it?

Actually I'm getting the shop to verify the block numbers... .I might leave the stripes off and pull the Z28 badges. The colors are original and if the block matches then why not? I just think it looks better with stripes though..... tough call.


.........eh the more pics I look at the more I have to keep the stripes, too plain without them. You'll just have to keep grumbling... :)

I think he means that for a tribute, everything has to be bone stock ;)
So nothing aftermaket. Maybe you should just change the name to Camaro :D

How about I change it to "1969 Camaro with Z28 stripes and badges but it's not really a Z28" or better yet I think I will just not worry about nor pay particular attention to what is thought about it and just enjoy it! :)

I know, I will get some custom plates: UNHOLYZ

How about I change it to "1969 Camaro with Z28 stripes and badges but it's not really a Z28" or better yet I think I will just not worry about nor pay particular attention to what is thought about it and just enjoy it!

Your on to the right answer here!

How about I change it to "1969 Camaro with Z28 stripes and badges but it's not really a Z28" or better yet I think I will just not worry about nor pay particular attention to what is thought about it and just enjoy it! :)

I know, I will get some custom plates: UNHOLYZ

Exactly what I said. The stripes make the car. The Z badges go with it.
Enjoy it. This is coming from a guy who has owned 3 Zs and one was a 30,000 mile original car. But my 68 hot rod is as much fun and has the looks.
You are not trying to sell it as a Z so who cares what you call it. Just have a blast with it. And remember when you are at a cruise nite and someone questions you about the car just ask them what they own. You will be surprised how many "Experts" don't even own one and never have.

Haha, you're so right. You should just enjoy while you can!
I hope I can enjoy it too one time, if my dream is still possible in 4 years!

Btw, you should make a small vid about her, running hee trough the gears etc :D

even though its not a Z, its still a forty one year old classic muscle car, real nice camaro.

I have a question, where would you find the actual dimensions of the stripes for this style of stripes. thx.

Stripe threads:

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=84805&highlight=z28+stripe+dimensions

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=58749
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=11686
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=75576

How about I change it to "1969 Camaro with Z28 stripes and badges but it's not really a Z28" or better yet I think I will just not worry about nor pay particular attention to what is thought about it and just enjoy it! :)

I know, I will get some custom plates: UNHOLYZ

Welcome to the absolute finest Camaro forum on the web.
We have an incredible knowledge base here and a bunch of great guys like Bri for example who has been here 11 years. We are like a family we love Camaros and love to help new guys like you. Your ride is a great looking car, very nice, really impressive ( for a 69 ;) ) and we have all types here from numbers matching to clones to drivers, to categories they don't have a name for (mine being considered a driver . . . which I have put tons of hours into and still got it all wrong and wish I could do over. :eek: )
Anyway welcome to our family I know you will like it here.

Thank you. This may be my first 1st gen camaro but not my first hot rod by any stretch. Was in the engine biz for many years and a car guy since birth. It's all good natured jabs like car guys do so I never get ruffled. I can tell, after hours of reading posts, that this is a great forum with a member base that has a vast amount of knowledge and experience. I' m really enjoying it here.

Was in the engine biz for many years . . . .

Now your talkin,
we can always use an engine builder around here ( good for our knowledge base :yes: )

I think he means that for a tribute, everything has to be bone stock ;)
So nothing aftermaket. Maybe you should just change the name to Camaro :D



Not really...

We have had just a few on here from "Big Money" restoration companies that have "Made" a z/28 and COPO camaro. In the process of putting these out on the market they use the words "Tribute" camaro.

I just dont want to see that car 3 cars owners down the way thinking its a real z/28. If your wanting to make yourself a z/28 in looks great. just dont try and pass it off when you sell it as a real Z.

i have no problem with a great looking camaro. its the Details and Sale Money that bug me the most.

The guys here like (Jerry have been here for ten years) and have seen different cars come across this board. In many different shapes and sizes, not to mention stages of completion.

As long as your not looking to sell this Tribute z/28 in three months to make a fast buck. But instead make the car for you to keep and enjoy for years to come. The guys here will help you in your journey to drive your car the way you want it built.

Ask HwyStarJoe he is "Driving it like he stole it" LOL
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=183053

Gauges arrived today!
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_0rkl7NEF1qk/TG8ZThPRPsI/AAAAAAAAAWE/Y6w6ecIjj5Y/s800/autometer.jpg

Where are you going to mount the guages?

Where are you going to mount the guages?

In the trunk.... :D

Sorry, couldn't resist.

5" gauges are going in the OEM dash (http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=183550) and the 2 1/16" in the center console pod.

Where would you mount them? :D

Brad -- been following your post here. From one newbie to another: Welcome!

Formalities aside -- and I KNOW this is your car and you gotta enjoy it the way you want -- but before you do the AutoMeter set up, PLEASE think it over.

I'm in the exact opposite position as you. I bought a Z "tribute" (or whatever the preferred terminology is) and I'm trying to get it back to the stock look that you have going on. Judging by your pics, it looks like a GREAT stock set up! I'm jealous! Once you pull that dash and start throwing in the AutoMeter set up, it's a loooong road back to originality.

Again, I know it's your car, and I'm not trying to be holier than thou, just asking you to think it over before you go down that restomod road.

That said, I'm from FW originally, and may be up there in the not-too-distant future for some trans work. We should meet up and compare battle scars!

I hear what you are saying and thought about it a good bit. Here's the deal. This not a numbers matching car, so that's out of the way. It IS the correct color, which can be changed at any time if I want. It was a plain X-11 car, not a DZ, sure I can ditch the badges and stripes... but I happen to like the stripes, the green is too plain without them in my opinion.

The big brakes are going on as we speak, it's already been lowered, wheels and tires changed... aluminum radiator on the way. But here's the key thing for me... I NEVER leave anything stock, it's just in my blood, however, I went with Pro Comps to keep black faces and any other changes I make to the interior will be subtle.

I agree with what you are saying and did apply some thought but I just can't resist screwing with my toys... probably a genetic defect.

Oh and one other thing... I bought the pigtail that connects the console gauges to the factory wiring, the speedo is mechanical and should (I emphasize should) work with the factory cable so then it's all about the tach. I have a billet Mallory distributor so that will be a simple job there. Yeah... there's the turn signals, etc to deal with then.

By the way... very nice Camaro you have there too!

http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz77/ztevans79/Camaro/IMG_0748.jpg

I NEVER leave anything stock, it's just in my blood..


A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

And I like the dark faced gauges a lot better than what was in mine: white faces with bright blue backlighting. The dark gauges look meaner!

Considering we're going in exact opposite directions, you should post your progress and we can compare notes! Wait -- do you have your stock dash wiring harness still? If so, do you want to sell it, b/c I need one!

Thanks for the comment on the car, by the way! See what I mean though? I had Z stuff everywhere, it is low-pros, wide rims, lowered stance, etc! We should swap - ha!

In the trunk.... :D

Sorry, couldn't resist.

5" gauges are going in the OEM dash (http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=183550) and the 2 1/16" in the center console pod.

Where would you mount them? :D


Have fun trying to see them in the trunk.lol

I saw your post about putting them in a factory cluster. I dont think they will fit and all the ones I see are the 3-3/8 guages.

I think the problem will be putting the lense back on the front of the guages. You can always cut ahole in the cluster for the guages. If you get it to work post a how to because I would like to do it.

They will fit in a DSE metal cluster.

Here is one I did for a 69 that I built.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj16/prostreet69camaro/Marks%2069%20Camaro2/DSC01264.jpg

Welcome!! If you need any help hit me up i own K.C Racing here in Rockwall just east of dallas on i-30 There are quite-a-bit of shows arround Dallas let me know were you are at! Kellers on northwest hwy every sat night is pretty good.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_0rkl7NEF1qk/TG8ZThPRPsI/AAAAAAAAAWE/Y6w6ecIjj5Y/s800/autometer.jpg
Now those are some nice guages, I love autometer.
for the record I am of the restomod persuasion ;)

Still kicking around the gauge thing... will deal with that after I get back from Mexico next week. Kind of leaning towards a factory tach/speedo right now.

Here's a few pics of the CPP big brakes and new stripes:

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See ya'll down the road!

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Have a good vacation Brad.
You don't know this yet cuz you are new but you are obligated to share the Mexico pics with us. We'll be waiting over in Bench.

That last pic is so cool!!

Brief update.

Small oil leak up front, either the timing cover crank seal or front pan seal. Knowing that I was going to pull the front off of the engine I ordered up an aluminum radiator from Superior... of course UPS had other plans and busted the fan enroute. Found another fan locally and got that taken care of. Pulled it down to the timing cover, gave everything a good cleaning, painted some pulleys, etc. Going back together tonight.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_0rkl7NEF1qk/TI6fjTOhpyI/AAAAAAAAAX0/1yfJ96QcYTc/s800/radiator.jpg

I have an appointment to have a 2.5" exhaust system installed with an X pipe and Flowmaster Super 44's on Wednesday. Window tint on Tuesday, I hope and get ready for it's first show/cruise this Saturday.

Going to be a busy week...

Before:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_0rkl7NEF1qk/TFo0ZnvIYII/AAAAAAAAARw/7esXs7Tq7DE/s800/new12800025367.jpg

During (needed a good degreasing, some paint on the pulleys, POR15 on the crossmember, etc. Stripped it down to the timing cover, installed a new seal, bolts, belts, etc):
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After (new aluminum radiator, electric fan, lots of new fasteners, belts, paint etc etc) I'll have the final finished pics with hoses this weekend once I get it all detailed for a show on Saturday.
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Man you are having too much fun. Great looking hotrod.

Man you are having too much fun. Great looking hotrod.

You hit the nail on the head... it's been too many years since I had a street rod toy... plenty of dirt toys, motorcycles, etc.

I decided several months ago that this would be a good time to buy one with the market as it is and I'm even passing on hunting this year (for the first time in a loooooong time) to just enjoy the mild Texas Fall and Winter, hit some drive in shows, a few cruises and go enjoy some races, etc.

I spent 10+ years in the engine business and while I don't care to turn wrenches for a living I do enjoy modifying toys in my spare time... good therapy. :thumbsup:

I hear what you are saying and thought about it a good bit. Here's the deal. This not a numbers matching car, so that's out of the way. It IS the correct color, which can be changed at any time if I want. It was a plain X-11 car, not a DZ, sure I can ditch the badges and stripes... but I happen to like the stripes, the green is too plain without them in my opinion.


Its not just you. After putting my real SS 396 back to near stock I couldnt help myself. Ive upgraded to tubular a-arms, coilovers, big Z06 brakes etc, it seems I cant stop. Im thinking fuel injection next. People make you feel guilty but I figure you can always take it back to stock if you dont cut it up.

Got it all put back together and seemed to have fixed my engine leaks. I think I have a pinhole in a steering hose, I'll address that next week. Installed the Flowmaster Super 44's on a 2.5" (George's Muffler in Fort Worth), love the sound but have a hacked up fuel line rubbing on the tail pipe. Time to install new fuel and power steering lines. Probably do the fuel tank, steering pump and gear box at the same time.

Afterwards I took it to NTB, brought my favorite Wix filter and Valvoline 20w/50 racing oil. Had them pull the pan on the TH350 as I noticed the fluid was CHARCOAL colored when I pulled the radiator/cooler. Sure enough, the filter was full of metal. Oh well, it shifts ok and I have a 700R4 bought as I needed an OD anyway. I'm sure it will be ok for a few weeks.

Attended the Cruisin for the Cure show this weekend... a few pics.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_0rkl7NEF1qk/TJY4c_H5NiI/AAAAAAAAAaQ/3waC7WJRlIM/s800/DSCN1608.JPG
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Made some progress over the past few weeks, leaks fixed, exhaust, brakes, stripes, aluminum radiator/fan and a host of little things.

Now I need to address:
Fuel line and possible tank for good measure
Power steering lines and probably a pump and gear box so I don't have to do it again.
Transmission, swap to a 700R4 so I can drive it down the highway at more than 70 for any distance.

Looming on the horizon is suspension, pretty sloppy. Thinking coilovers up front and good springs/shocks all around with some poly bushings, same for body mounts. Hotchkiss maybe.

One other interesting note. I decided to finally pull the block casting number. Has the 3782870 early 327 block. Obviously it's not the original block being a 62-67 block (the stamped pad has been milled) but here's the interesting part.

1. The hood has the 302 emblems, the previous owner/s built a a clone. That does not mean it actually has a 302 of course.
2. IF you are going to build a 302 the early 327 block is what you would want to use as it has the small journal mains that a 283 crank would drop in to.
3. So far it looks like the engine had no expense spared. Edelbrock aluminum heads, intake, 750 carb, Streetdampner balancer, Milidon pan and timing cover, Hooker headers, MSD ignition...etc etc..
4. When I pulled the balancer I noticed that the crank snout was in very good shape, probably a new crank. Good key, threads were clean, no scoring from previous balancers.

So... without pulling the pan to see the crank it's impossible to say but there is slight chance this thing actually has a 302 in it. Not an original setup per se but a 302 nonetheless. It sure runs like it, spins up like crazy and never wants to quit.

After spending many years in the engine biz I can usually listen to an engine guess pretty close at cam lift... I was guessing this one at .492 which is a common grind. Looked up Edelbrocks specs on their RPM package with heads, cam, intake...etc, .492 intake, .510 exhaust. Verified it has the 1441 Edelbrock 750 vac sec carb.... which is a lot of carb for a 300-350 cu in engine unless you plan to spin it.

So who knows...either way I sure like it!

Nice car. I like the color. What do they call that color? Frost Green?

Yes, Frost Green.

I bought the same gauges. Haven't installed them yet.

Tracked down a couple of the previous owners, I'm the 4th.

Original owner out of Ardmore, OK is dead. The second owner in Pottsboro, TX had it for about 15 years and did most of the work. He gave me all of the specs on the engine, etc. .060 over 327 (336), roller rockers, steel crank, peened rods, balanced, etc. 12 bolt out of a 70 Camaro, Auburn locker, 3.73's. More on that later.

Car was actually in a couple of SuperChevy magazines and a few calendars, he has all of them and is going to send them to me. Has some original docs and parts including bumpers and a bunch of small parts. Nice guy and is just interested in seeing them stay with the car. Also has a stack of paperwork/receipts. The guy he sold it to never came back to get them....odd.

Great conversation and he knew everything about the car from the original owner on down.

Tracked down a couple of the previous owners, I'm the 4th.


How'd you do that? I called the DMV in Arkansas where my PO bought it from and they couldn't disclose any information on the previous/original owners info. kind of frustrating.

Got it all put back together and seemed to have fixed my engine leaks. I think I have a pinhole in a steering hose, I'll address that next week. Installed the Flowmaster Super 44's on a 2.5" (George's Muffler in Fort Worth), love the sound but have a hacked up fuel line rubbing on the tail pipe. Time to install new fuel and power steering lines. Probably do the fuel tank, steering pump and gear box at the same time.

Afterwards I took it to NTB, brought my favorite Wix filter and Valvoline 20w/50 racing oil. Had them pull the pan on the TH350 as I noticed the fluid was CHARCOAL colored when I pulled the radiator/cooler. Sure enough, the filter was full of metal. Oh well, it shifts ok and I have a 700R4 bought as I needed an OD anyway. I'm sure it will be ok for a few weeks.

Attended the Cruisin for the Cure show this weekend... a few pics.
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Made some progress over the past few weeks, leaks fixed, exhaust, brakes, stripes, aluminum radiator/fan and a host of little things.

Now I need to address:
Fuel line and possible tank for good measure
Power steering lines and probably a pump and gear box so I don't have to do it again.
Transmission, swap to a 700R4 so I can drive it down the highway at more than 70 for any distance.

Looming on the horizon is suspension, pretty sloppy. Thinking coilovers up front and good springs/shocks all around with some poly bushings, same for body mounts. Hotchkiss maybe.

One other interesting note. I decided to finally pull the block casting number. Has the 3782870 early 327 block. Obviously it's not the original block being a 62-67 block (the stamped pad has been milled) but here's the interesting part.

1. The hood has the 302 emblems, the previous owner/s built a a clone. That does not mean it actually has a 302 of course.
2. IF you are going to build a 302 the early 327 block is what you would want to use as it has the small journal mains that a 283 crank would drop in to.
3. So far it looks like the engine had no expense spared. Edelbrock aluminum heads, intake, 750 carb, Streetdampner balancer, Milidon pan and timing cover, Hooker headers, MSD ignition...etc etc..
4. When I pulled the balancer I noticed that the crank snout was in very good shape, probably a new crank. Good key, threads were clean, no scoring from previous balancers.

So... without pulling the pan to see the crank it's impossible to say but there is slight chance this thing actually has a 302 in it. Not an original setup per se but a 302 nonetheless. It sure runs like it, spins up like crazy and never wants to quit.

After spending many years in the engine biz I can usually listen to an engine guess pretty close at cam lift... I was guessing this one at .492 which is a common grind. Looked up Edelbrocks specs on their RPM package with heads, cam, intake...etc, .492 intake, .510 exhaust. Verified it has the 1441 Edelbrock 750 vac sec carb.... which is a lot of carb for a 300-350 cu in engine unless you plan to spin it.

So who knows...either way I sure like it!

That's beautiful. It's nice to hear that you like the FlowmasterSuper 44s (http://fmm.axisitgroup.com/searchfmm/search_cat.php?cat=1&sub=3&sc1=Street%20Mufflers&sc2=Super%2044%20Series&sc3=0&sc4=0). Did you do an X or H pipe?

Flowmaster Sound Options

I'm glad you dropped by... I did an X pipe. Speaking of... I'm about to pull the TH350 and go back with either a 200-4R or 700-R4. Do you know off the top of your head if I'm going to have clearance issues with either the way this is setup? The shop used your X pipe but I don't have any measurements.

What I really like about this system is that at constant cruise it's very quiet, yet has a nice idle but when you drop the hammer it really come's alive... very nasty sounding. I love it!
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I have been lurking on your thread since you created it and I love your car. You have made a lot of progress in a relatively short amount of time.

Im building a Z28 clone also and wanted to know if you would adopt me. lol

I know im a little late at saying it but welcome aboard and enjoy your awesome hot rod.
TJ

Some updated photos from the Hooters Show in Grapevine:
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Updated photo of the engine bay. I've added the aluminum radiator, SS braided fuel lines and billet filter, billet pulleys and some general clean up.
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And somehow managed to pickup Class Award (1960's cars) from the other participants.

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A bit of an update.

As I stated earlier, my 12 bolt is out of a 70 Camaro, 1" too wide and the tires rub. On top of that I had a nasty vibration, figured it was the driveshaft, had it balanced, rephased and new ujoints... no change. Turns out it has two bent axles. So I've bought some 69 width Alloy USA axles, a T/A aluminum girdle/cover and am taking it to Murray's Rods here in Fort Worth to have it narrowed. I'm installing a Hotchkis suspension front and rear at the same time plus all new poly bushings, etc up front.

In the mean time though I've bought an Art Carr built Extreme 200-4R built to hold 800HP which should handle my 400HP 327 with ease.

Lot's of major changes about to take place after the holidays.

Could you have just used a little more back spacing in the rear wheels to keep them from rubbing ?

Could you have just used a little more back spacing in the rear wheels to keep them from rubbing ?

That was the problem. If I wanted to keep my MB wheels then I'd need 6.5" of BS...they don't make it AND if they did it would be a very shallow wheel. Believe me, I looked at all of the wheels out there and my only solution was a custom wheel. Remember, to fit 275 tires we need a 9.5" wide wheel with 5.5" of BS.

I decided not to bandaid the situation but to make things right and go from there.

Very nice Camaro. The wheels really make the car look great with the green and black. Sounds like you really enjoy your Camaro and use it.

Been awhile since I had an update.

Buried in work and spending extra money on the house... dirt, rocks, grass, paint, etc... just not right, should be HP, billet, suspension...etc.

Got pissed at my TPI on my 350 SBC powered Jeep... pulled it and have been slowly converting back to carb... more work than you think.. fuel lines, wiring for 700-R4, intake, carb, distributor...etc etc.

Poor Camaro has been sitting in the garage, I go speak to her every few days, take a trip down the road, wash her and so on.. make sure she knows I still love her.

200-4R is in the garage waiting. Cross member in hand but still need a torque converter, horseshoe shifter conversion parts, TV cable and so on.

I do have my Alloy USA axles for the rear along with my T/A cover, probably should order some fresh 3.73 gears.

I did order a set of QA1 coil overs for the front, Hotchkis rear leaf springs and need to order sway bars and rear QA1 adjustable shocks so I can get the rear end narrowed and built.... don't want to pull things twice, do it all at once.

Hope to have it all ready for the Fall shows and runs, about to get too hot to do much here in Texas, at least during the day, already had some over 100 days just west of here.

Oh.. and just found out my wife is expecting! Kinda weird at 43 shopping Recaro car seats...