What are these going for these days???
ThanX
Brian

A lot $$$$$$$ $1,500-2K

one sold for 3k about 6 months back. they were 4-5 k a few years back when things were good

How does this one look?

I can't believe that no one has an opinion?????
Brian

Since you asked, I'd say it looks like it just came out of the Delco box.

Did it?

I wish it did....this is as found condition.
Brian

Looks good to me. In fact looks identical to the one in my 67 Z. Why are the pics dated 2007?

I never set the date on my camara.
Brian

I was suppose to work out a deal on this distributor for $1800.00, not exactly stealing it in this economy, but now that I see the photo, which I had not seen before, there are issues with the date code. We are restoring a '67 Z28 for Charlie Lingenfelter. His brother was the famous John Lingenfelter who was killed in a racing accident......and need one for the engine I'm building for him.

I was contacted last week and expected to send a check to a total stranger for $1800 and not ask any questions. I was given a referral, Wayne Bushey, but by the time I had tracked Wayne down and spoke to him on the phone, the whole agenda changed on this distributor and it's sale to CHP.

I have many 266's in my data base from the thousands that we've restored over the years. And I think that someone is fishing here...........also, would not return e-mails or phone calls either.........so, buyer's beware.

Jerry MacNeish,
Camaro Hi-Performance

Arnt those numbers so perfect and even..depth height etc etc
Shame they didnt come off the line like that..
I havnt got one in front of me at the moment but the maching doesnt look right either

Deejaygee....It would be great if you could post a pic of yours to compare.

I just checked. NAPA has 'em for $59.99. ;)

Numbers were set up in a fixture with three rollers. Once the characters were in place, the dist numbers were "rolled" onto the dist housing. This same process was used when I worked at Koppers Metal products division in the transmission coupling assembly plant. 1970's. The Koppers logo and coupling data was installed the same way on their coupling assemblies.

Jerry

Its listed in the classifieds here and on the Yenko site. I dont think there is anything fishy except maybe at $1800 it is a bit underpriced. Economy or not, these things are rare and very hard to find for the 67 z crowd.

They are rare but thousands were made. I have about 50 original 266 stamping photos in my CHP data base.

These distributors have also turned up in many 1968 Z28's. I have an early 266 in my shop right now that was factory installed in a Jan 1968 build Z28. There is also a GM memo that stated due to a parts surplus, 266 distributors will be used in 1968 302 engines until the supply runs out.

Jerry

Thanks for the kind words Jerry. You had your chance to buy this distributor with a money back guarantee for almost two weeks. You had my home address, my e-mail address, my cell number, and my wife's cell number. I am sorry that you may have been screwed in the past, but this is not my first rodeo. If you would not have treated me like I was trying to rip you off, then I would have returned your phone call and e-mails. Why did you not question the date stamp when you reviewed the pictures that I sent you on 11/7/10 in your e-mails to me?? I do not think that it is right for you to bash this part because you dragged your feet to buy it and now regret it. I think that $1800 in any economy is a STEAL. You had your chance and you screwed up. I was not going to bring this out on a public forum, but you opened your mouth and here it is. The part comes with a 100% MONEY BACK GUARANTEE. Sorry that everyone has been dragged in to this.
Brian

Numbers were set up in a fixture with three rollers. Once the characters were in place, the dist numbers were "rolled" onto the dist housing. This same process was used when I worked at Koppers Metal products division in the transmission coupling assembly plant. 1970's. The Koppers logo and coupling data was installed the same way on their coupling assemblies.
Yep..and the numbers move around get worn and ar held in place with smiple screws...hence why they are at different depths, often only 1/2 a number prints, oout of analignment, and the font usually has a deep V , not a round shape to it.

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=178327

I think that the photo in this thread looks just like my stamp.
Brian

this one ?Here is yours also.

http://www.camaros.net/forums/album.php?albumid=544

Yep..and the numbers move around get worn and ar held in place with smiple screws...hence why they are at different depths, often only 1/2 a number prints, oout of analignment, and the font usually has a deep V , not a round shape to it.

Not true, the numbers are locked in with allen screws so they don't fall out. These fixtures are very tight. They have to be because of the adjusted pressure needed to roll the numbers into the housing.

Jerry
CHP

Can a moderator please delete all the private contact info Jerry just posted about Brian ?

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ReplyReply AllMove...Brian Flag this messageRe: 67 Z28 1111266 distributorTuesday, November 9, 2010 8:57 AMFrom: "z28camaroman@juno.com" <z28camaroman@juno.com>Add sender to ContactsTo: nova7579@yahoo.comBrian,

I would go $1800 if all the parts are there, and that's stretching it in this economy. If you are willing to send it to me for inspection and all is well, I will send a check.

Let me know if this would work for you.

Thanks,

Jerry

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From: Brian Caris <nova7579@yahoo.com>
To: z28camaroman@juno.com
Subject: 67 Z28 1111266 distributor
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 10:52:11 -0800 (PST)

Hi Jerry,
I talked with you briefly on the phone this morning about this distributor. I have attached some pictures of the part how I purchased it. The guy I bought it off of said he bead blasted it and that it came out of his buddies 67 302 Camaro. I would like to get $2000. Let me know what you think. ThanX for your time.
Brian Caris











Here is the first response from you on 11/09/10. Get your story straight Jerry and do not post people's personal information on a public site, very unprofessional.
Brian




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Originally Posted by Steptoe
Yep..and the numbers move around get worn and ar held in place with smiple screws...hence why they are at different depths, often only 1/2 a number prints, oout of analignment, and the font usually has a deep V , not a round shape to it.

Not true, the numbers are locked in with allen screws so they don't fall out. These fixtures are very tight. They have to be because of the adjusted pressure needed to roll the numbers into the housing.
Yep they are dropped in and locked with allen scews...the holders are not a machined fit, they get slop and wear as do the fonts and are not uniform.
I have a box of sundry dizzys ...the only thing that is consistant to some degree is the finish machining, but even the the most 'even' of the fonts certainly have obvious variations..AND not a single one has that font.

This system of coding has been used for decades, everything from heated , printing and impressed for everything from cardboard containers, plastic containers, toothpaste tubes.labels.
For many yrs it was part of my job to reset these codes (not automotive industry) and would not like to count the run ins with QC because things never came out perfect every time.
Now look at the 2 pics Chill posted...the 1st is a fine font, the type used for machine pressing with a finer deep V, that is use because there is far less pressure required when the unit rolls over .....Also notice the height....all my dizzys are like the 1st pic or close to it, and look close, they are not even in line or perfectly pressed, espec the date code and one of the 1s
And check out the machining, I have a slight variation on my dizzys but the tool used is consistant, and variation is tool wear.

I hope this keeps up for days, I love a good keyboard fight:boxing:

Gotta love someone with a good sense of humour lol.

..

Here is the first response from you on 11/09/10. Get your story straight Jerry and do not post people's personal information on a public site, very unprofessional.
Brian


Brian,

You are the one who is very unprofessional. Do not make a gentleman's agreement to sell a distributor and then renege on the deal because I can't track down your referral person quick enough. As I said before, I will not send $1800.00 to a total stranger. No one in their right mind would! I asked that you send it to me for evaluation. You refused. Why I don't know? My restoration business and Z28 racing career has a very high profile in the Camaro arena. I'm not in the habbit of ripping off people in my business. Read the customer feedback on my website. www.z28camaro.com. Part of my business is authenticating parts and on-site car inspections.

In the future, when you find parts, just put them on Ebay or these sites and don't make deals with people that you won't commit to. That is very unprofessional. In regards to posting your address issue in your e-mail to me, I cut and pasted it just the way in was written to me. It was not meant in a malicious way.

Jerry
CHP

Was the 1800.00 price ever agreed to ?

The glass beading would drop the price a lot to me, ruined the finish, just polish it too?

Charley,

Yes it was. It's in his e-mail to me. He asked for $2000.00. I responded how about $1800.00. He told me it's a deal. That is the truth. I did not twist his arm. We both agreed. But Brian wanted me to send a check to him........a total stranger. I told him that I could offer many references to him so that he would have piece of mind sending it to me for an inspection, but he would not do that. Many do this with me all the time and it's never a problem.

He offered W. Bushey from the Nova club as a reference and that was it. Wayne is hard to track down but I did. It took a few days but by then, Brian had changed his mind and got greedy. Wayne did tell me he knew of him but barely did remember him, that's about it.

Jerry

After reading the thread is makes me happy I own a 327 210 car!!! Which is nearly all numbers matching FWIW! I buy whole cars for $1800! But somebody has to be in the exotic stuff and I respect all of you that are....... They are all cool cars.

And actually, I have more fun with my '67 Z28 Stock Eliminator race car than I do with my number's matching original Z28 with it's 1111266 distributor. The '67 Z28 Stocker does not have it's original distributor but does own a new NHRA national record now......and we finished in the top 10 for the season.......and it's a hell of a lot more fun!

one sold for 3k about 6 months back. they were 4-5 k a few years back when things were good

It seems the price he is asking is inline with what they have sold for recently. Also the distributor stamping looks fine. I will post pics of an identically dated 266 later. Good luck with the sale.

And actually, I have more fun with my '67 Z28 Stock Eliminator race car than I do with my number's matching original Z28 with it's 1111266 distributor. The '67 Z28 Stocker does not have it's original distributor but does own a new NHRA national record now......and we finished in the top 10 for the season.......and it's a hell of a lot more fun!

Is the best Camaro site on the planet or what ! :yes:

I havent owned one of these or even seen one in person in 25 years of swap meets[Ive owned 25 or so #437 ls6 pieces]. The last 266 I heard of at a swap meet last year went for 5.00 at 6am ,then 1000.00 then 1800.00,all in the same day amongst 3 ebay vendors.It then sold for 3950.00 on ebay a week later 5 minutes into he auction with a buy it now,and it was a July 67 date to boot. I think its safe to say the 266s are possibly the most elusive ditributors made.

The hottest item now ($$$) is the 1111154 L79 distributor. In the 20 plus years I've been doing distributor restoration, I have only had three real ones come through the shop. Had dozens of 266's and 437's. The 154's are very rare........also had quite a few fake 154's come in. Real ones are tough!

Jerry

At this point, I am thinking I better write the numbers down and keep them in my wallet!

I was also just thinking about the distributor I had to break to get the intake off the old rusted smallblock that came in my FJ-40..... Would NOT want to see those numbers on it!

...'ell, I've been usin a 266 for an oil pump primer for years ...:boring:

Happy Thanksgiving ! :beers:

All the more reason I have respect for, but NO interest in, being a member of the "numbers matching" crowd.

Used to be fun in the old days before Ebay and the internet but with Ebay and these sites reaching the whole world, the blue collar folks have to deal with people who have unlimited $$$$ in their bank account.

I just had a guy call me Wednesday about selling me a take off L78 smog system, and what it's worth. I told him about all the BS I went through on this distributor.........and told him to list it on Ebay. I'm not going to make an offer and then have him go in another direction. I don't have time for the games and greed and it's not how we earn our income here anyway.

Jerry
CHP

...'ell, I've been usin a 266 for an oil pump primer for years ...:boring:

Happy Thanksgiving ! :beers:

We use my 13,000 mile '67 Z28 survivor in my shop as a storage bench most of the year.......it works out nice. There are about 50 magazines and hemmings books stock piled on it now..........really! Along with piles of NHRA photos from the racing season. I can sort the photos very nicely using the car as a work bench!

We have also been known to use original ZL-1 engines as a lunch table too......we've brought back about a dozen or so from the dead...........most were exploded when they were new.

Jerry
CHP

We use my 13,000 mile '67 Z28 survivor in my shop as a storage bench most of the year.......it works out nice. There are about 50 magazines and hemmings books stock piled on it now..........really! Along with piles of NHRA photos from the racing season. I can sort the photos very nicely using the car as a work bench!

We have also been known to use original ZL-1 engines as a lunch table too......we've brought back about a dozen or so from the dead...........most were exploded when they were new.

Jerry
CHP

That's good stuff!

It's true! I'll have to post some photos...........

The NHRA National Record holder '67 Z28 is king of the hill at CHP and is treated as such. It's in the trailer in show mode for the benefit Timonium car show in MD next weekend.

Jerry

Charley, I found this photo of mine:

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_s5I1sEeo6bk/TO_w1ElaWOI/AAAAAAAAEiw/M7yA3NEQyXo/DCP_0945.JPG

Thanks for the beautiful picture. Notice how the date is not level with the part number just like the one that I have. I guess now we know why Jerry is crying so bad about dragging his feet.
Brian

See the 266 is also angled, not the wear in them and the A.
Another thing to watch is the machine marks both at the top and bottom.
And the overall diameter of where these machinings are.
Unless someone has a big box of blank billets, the old numbers have to be machined off.

I have attached a few pics of an unrestored distributor dated the same with the crooked 7, same lower 5 than the 2 and notice remnants of the orange stripe. Another reputable distributor restorer/vendor is Jeff Dotterer from Dated Components.

I think this is a great thread for future 266 discoveries no matter what you think of the unneccessary drama. I will post another picture from the CRG site with the date code out of line. My distributor has a new home and thanks for all the help guys.
Brian


http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=1875.0

That is what I was going to say. I do machining for a living. IF I were, guessing, I would say to turn the original numbers off my take around .040 -.060 off the diameter. Or .020 -.030 per side. I would guess the factory machined the distributors pretty consistently the same diameter. So that would be the first thing I would check. At these prices you could do alot to try and fake one.

If there is a "database" of 50 266s out there with only 4 or 5 known original dates made and the Jan date being the most common , why would this distributor have been suspect in the first place?? The 7 did look suspect as far as comparing it to other aluminum distributor stampings, which is why comparison with other examples of the same date would be crucial.

Good question Elvis, maybe Jerry can explain why he said it????
Brian

I've been gone for a couple days, nice to see everybody still enthralled with excess holiday trappings and the things that really matter. :yes::yes:
carry on....

If there is a "database" of 50 266s out there with only 4 or 5 known original dates made and the Jan date being the most common , why would this distributor have been suspect in the first place?? The 7 did look suspect as far as comparing it to other aluminum distributor stampings, which is why comparison with other examples of the same date would be crucial.

There are two variations on the 7A25 and from the first photos that I saw, and his reluctance to send it to me so I could evaluate it, and wanting me to send an $1800 check to a total stranger, I was unsure. From the newer photos that were posted, it's real.

There are many dates on the 266 going back to 1966. I have one that came out of the Penske '67 Z28. I have recorded many 266's and dates over the years and new dates still do pop up. There are more than four or five known dates.

Jerry
CHP

There are many dates on the 266 going back to 1966. I have one that came out of the Penske '67 Z28. I have recorded many 266's and dates over the years and new dates still do pop up. There are more than four or five known dates.

Jerry
CHP

Jerry,
What are the dates that you have seen?

I would like to compare them to what I have come across


These distributors have also turned up in many 1968 Z28's. I have an early 266 in my shop right now that was factory installed in a Jan 1968 build Z28. There is also a GM memo that stated due to a parts surplus, 266 distributors will be used in 1968 302 engines until the supply runs out.Jerry

I have personally seen two 68 “302” cars with a 266 Dist.

The hottest item now ($$$) is the 1111154 L79 distributor. In the 20 plus years I've been doing distributor restoration, I have only had three real ones come through the shop. Had dozens of 266's and 437's. The 154's are very rare........also had quite a few fake 154's come in. Real ones are tough! Jerry


1966 L-79 Nova parts are very difficult to find.

How about the 1111155 Distributor?
Have you seen many?

1966 L-79 Nova parts are very difficult to find.

How about the 1111155 Distributor?
Have you seen many?

OMG..... Brian, they're calling. :secret:

Yes as a matter of fact I just sold a 1111155 last month. I asked several folks who know there numbers and it stumped them all, including dyno john. The only problem with them is only 426 people ordered the TI on the 66 L79's and that is a very limited market. I decided not to be greedy and gave it away for $350.00. I will post some pictures in my album. Here is a link to some pictures of the 1111155, enjoy.


http://www.camaros.net/forums/album.php?albumid=544

Brian

I wish i purchased it from you.

That was well bought.