I bought this car as part of a package deal and was wondering what you guys think it is and what yall think I could get out of it as is, WIW if I was to just clean it up and get it drivable and WIW if I went ahaead and went thru it giving it a full "buff and stuff". Ive looked it over and it has a handful of what seems to be 68 Z28 options. I had a pic of the trim tag but I must have done something to it on my phone- I cant find it. The people that had it before me removed the trim tag after I looked at the car the first time about 3.5years ago. They DID NOT know that removingthe trim tage was not a good idea. They didnt understand how it could hurt the value of the car. But I HAVE SEEN the trim tag. The guy and his son that owned it had me look at it about 3.5 years ago to tell them what I thought about it. I looked at it and told them I thought at the very least it was an RS/SS. It is an 04D car with deluxe interior, the paint code is " - - ", it has 4 rear leaf springs(12 bolt rear and engine is long gone), a 15" tire sticker BARELY readable on the glove box door, a Muncie M22 ( IS #s matching), speedo cable comes thru firewall over on the drivers side, power front disc brakes, all the RS stuff including reverse lights under the rear bumper and holes for the trim along the bottom of the car and a 6K RPM redline tach. I am very proud of my purchase and would appreciate it if yall would tell me what you think as asked above.
Thanks guys and gals!

I would need more information; such as dual exhaust ?, rear bumper guards ?, condition of frame rails, pics of interior, more pics of engine compartment, pics of numbers on # matching M22, cowl paint ?, what 's a buff and stuff ? Will it run ?, does it move ?

Looks as though the firewall has been hammered pretty good.

No TT, did you get an ownership / title ?

It might be diamond in the rough Z/28 . . .

Lots of rare options, and it looks to be in reasonable shape.

Pls keep the pics coming and many more will chime in for sure.

Without more details it's difficult to put a $ figure on this '68, but it looks like a great score with lots of potential.

You are proud of your purchase, how much did you give for the car? What will it take to put the car in running order and to restore. What sheetmetal needs to be replaced. I like the RS and 4 speed.

Nothing else needs to be said, it's a '68. Good luck.

what was original engine for the car?
is the interior intact console,dash pad,seats etc..
looks like the hood and trunk lid are from a diff. car. probably sold the ss hood and the rear deck lid with spoiler?
what rear is in it now open 10 bolt?
if it isnt to late the first thing i would do is scuff off all the rust from roof and trunk and primer it!!
how are the floors and trunk any major rot in those areas?

Tach would indicate a solid lifter car, and it has the original looking patina to it. Of course, there is nothing to say it couldn't have been replaced many years ago. Does it have a small block or big block heater core? You can pull the core and see if the date code on it matches - might tell you something particularly if it is a big block core. Special paint code was probably for stripe delete, assuming it was an SS or Z. Paint on it now looks like Lemans Blue.

Also - you said that the M-22 is numbers matching - do you mean it has a matching VIN, or that the date codes match? Have you pulled the side cover to verify that it has the straight cut gears?

Need answers to all of the questions already asked before can put a number on the car.

What engine is in the car now?

Do you have the trim tag or can you get it?

Looking at the rust pattern, may have had a vinyl top.

The tire sticker in the glove box door strongly suggests Z/28 if it's clearly 15" wheels. The rally sport script on the fenders suggests it's not an SS car. The 6k tach as stated says solid lifter, that's either BB SS or Z/28 and the RS script rules out SS.

An RS Z/28 would be a killer score...

So do you have the trim tag? If not I would get that ASAP.

Harley, email me off forum if you want, but what's the VIN? I'll look in the database and see if there's anything on the car (or add it if there's nothing listed). Can you get me picutres of the VIN, the Trim Tag if you can find it, the tire pressure sticker and the M22 stampings as well?

Thanks
Ed

I know of a rust free Canadian '68 Z/28 shell w/ original subframe.

( those are the only parts I have seen - anyway )

Unsure of what original RPOs it was born with, and owner just toys with me when I attempt to make a deal.

I did get a price of $15K once, but it was quickly retracted and the car was "not for sale yet" once again.

That was about 8 years ago, but I still bug him once or twice a year . . .

. . . maybe this year.

As posted above, if this is a true rs Z/28, that would be an awesome find !

Your piece of coal is probably a diamond in the rough. The best thing you can do is take pics and document all parts that could possibly make it a Z, master cylinder, power booster, power steering, ect. Check and see if fenders are original cause the holes at front end are for a Z/28 emblem, which could have been added. Is it an SS or plain hood car, then count the springs on the hood springs, this will tell you. Also pull the tac and speedo guages and check for date code to see if match car, this will tell if original to car or added.
Check rear tail panel lights to see if the RS option was factory or added. Also take pic of dash to see if color of area around guages match dash and if glove box matches dash, to help determine if it was original or added. If the hood spring count is 26(?) for plain hood, the tac date matches car, the tire sticker is ???? (whats the 2 letter code at top) original, then you have a Z. IF RS/Z, WIW - w/bad floors and trunk,no interior - $8-10k, w/good floors and trunk,no interior -$15-20k. Trim tag,,, good if you can get it, otherwise documetation with pics and parts cast numbers and date codes wood be more beneficial. Fully restored.. $65-75k with date correct block and original M22 trans.

Another area that just goes crazy with value are engine things like the alternator and distributor. Just need to start checking from one end to the other to know how much of the orig. car is there minus the block.

I will get on the documentation guys. As far as dash & coor match, yes it wasnt added. Ill get pics of other stuff & post it. THANK YOU!! I cant tell yall what I gave. Everyone of you would drive here & ring my scrawny neck. I will say this, it cost more in gas to go get it than what I gave for it...

OH... The rust? I cant find even so much as a pinhole. It was a vinyl top car. Trunk, floors, shock towers are all like they have never been wet. I got it in SoCal & it has been sitting in a storage facility since 86 & before that it was in the garage of the guy that raced it since mid 70's. I am told I was 3rd owner.
Thanks again... Im pretty happy over it.

Did you buy a storage container and it was in it? That may be one of the cheapest best buys of ALL TIME!

Thats an awesome buy!!! Why not make it drivable? A lot in here will guide you in your journey.... :)

I would definitely attempt to get the trim tag and anything else removed but was once part of the car, that stuff is a ton of brain damage to come across not to mention the money. the trim tag needs to go back with the car, I'd work on that for sure

Sounds to me like a call to JM might be the first thing to do.

What you paid is your own business. We just want to know what else you got with it,
and if they are original to the car for you; motor, trans, rear axle.

Since its a 68, most guys wouldnt bother asking about it because of the rough looking
shape its in, you didnt get orig. pop or window sticker with it, and the trim tag doesnt
read " IM A Z28" in location 4, and the orig. engine block is long gone.

Definitely one of the top awesome finds. Dont know what you already own, but this
could be the one to KEEP! If originally RS, this one is one of the rarest 68zs you could
possibly want, possibly 1 of 1,500 approx. produced, and 1 of < xx left!

I have been SO busy getting the other 68's engine rebuilt and ALOT of other things....O goodness. Im a little tired. I have found a complete 68 Z motor and I am going to go look at it and make sure the crank rods pistons etc, etc. are in fact MO stuff. Im still working on getting the other pics and the trim tag is in the works.

I cannot believe I may have stumbled across this wonderful barn find and it could happen to be my ULTIMATE dream car that I have always wanted, a 68 RS/Z28. My children are bugging me to death about getting this car going so that we can cruise it in the Christmas parade here soon. That may be a little to much work for me....lol.

You guys have always been encouragin, minus the 2 or 3 that sent me a few emails gripping at me and telling me to quit whining and that they were sick of hearing about my crappy luck, telling me it was my fault I was in the predicament I was in...um...No? - after all this board was my only place to vent and get a little encouragement... lol.

Thanks again Gents and Gals,
H

simply awesome!
Keep the pists and pics coming!

OK... some of you guys now me. How should I document re-attaching the trim tag to the car?
When I do it, just take pictures of the trim tag and firewall then use the correct rivets (of course) to re-install it? I want ev eryone on here to know that I saw the trim tag when it was still on the car and the trim tag now and it is one in the same and nothing has changed on it. Its still matches everything I wrote down nearly 2 years ago.
I just want to be honest. I have PM'd Mr. Macneish and havent gotten a response. Does anyone have an email for him? Id like to at least ask him some questions before I may end up waisting his time.

Harley, HERE'S (http://www.z28camaro.com/consvcs.html) Jerry's web site. (His email address is at the bottom.) See what he recommends with regards to reattaching the trim tag before you do anything.

Ed

Thanks Bert!! I want to do this right! If IN FACT I do have a real Z, I want it done right and dont want anyone on here thinking I will try to hook them.
I may be alot of things but I am not a liar or a con-artist.

OH! What about the "correct" trim tag rivets? Where can I get some?

What about the "correct" trim tag rivets? Where can I get some?

EBAY (http://motors.shop.ebay.com/__?_from=R40&_trksid=p3872.m39.l1313&_nkw=trim+tag+rivets&_sacat=)

OK.. you showed me those so that means they are correct. Ill be looking into some of them. What type of gun to attach them with? I know its different than the rivet gun I have.

OK.. you showed me those so that means they are correct. Ill be looking into some of them. What type of gun to attach them with? I know its different than the rivet gun I have.

The ebay add says it has instructions on installing them. You might ask the seller this question before you buy them.

Here's another place to buy the rivets.. There are short instructions on installation, and this place also offers the installation tool for the rivets.

http://www.trimtags.com/rivets.html

Im pullin it in the barn tomorrow to start pulling it apart and cleaning it out. I have ALL KIDS OF EXTRA PARTS. The more I dig the more I find.
Ill post what needs to be posted.

You guys see something I may miss let me know plz....

just from what i see.i would say2k.to 5k with out seeing floor trunk ect.but it looks to be a great find.good for you.WS:D

Should the trim tag have a "- -" or a "- A" with the A,B representing the Vinyl top code in the 2nd position?

The trim tag does in fact have a " - - " for the color code... I need to get the pics up here. I took them with my phone and now it wont let me download them to this PC.

Ill figure it out...

Nothing else needs to be said, it's a '68. Good luck.like he said my condolences!!!! hahahaha jk:hurray:
good luck!! looks like she'll make a good one!!

If I were you, I would just leave the trim tag off until you are ready to paint the firewall. It's off now and you can prep the firewall easier without it on the car and there will probably be some surface rust in that area.