Would like opinions on what you guys think about these garage finds, NOS GM rocker moldings. Real or reproductions. They have been selling these for about three years now. You can look at the feedback and see just how many sets sold.

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Maybe, NOS , stands for New Off Shore??

I know these guys personally and they have a great reputation. I would take them for their word.

I've bought parts from them in Carlisle and they seem like good people, FWIW.

I've bought a few things from these guy's as well, everything came as described NOS, no problems. Good People.
I do see they state; will come with "New Mounting Brackets" I would ask if the brackets are GM or Repo. If repo, they may not work as well with GM spears, that would be the only thing I would question.
Paul

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I'm not buying their story. THESE ARE ORIGINAL GM LOWER BODY ROCKER CHROME MOLDINGS. THEY HAVE JUST RE-SURFACED AFTER BEING IN STORAGE FOR ALMOST 15 YEARS. THESE CAME OUT OF THE REMAINING INVENTORY FROM GM WHEN THEY WERE DISCONTINUED AND BEFORE THEY WERE PACKAGED UP FOR DELIVERY. STRAIGHT FROM THE ORIGINAL GM MANUFACTURER, OFF THE REAL GM TOOLING.
Ummm, Okay.....
I would buy Real GM in Real GM packaging

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I was actually the high bidder on these for a friend but am off them now

I'm not buying their story.
Ummm, Okay.....
I would buy Real GM in Real GM packaging

I have been looking for these spears for six months. I have been taking my time because I did not really need them right away. I will tell you in my travels many people have mentioned and noticed , including myself, how many sets this seller has posted of these rocker moldings on ebay with this same story . I would say maybe a year and there always seems to be sets for sale every month. I do not know for sure if they are legit or not but I decided not to buy from them .

There is also a seller who always has NOS chrome shifter knobs on ebay with an incorrect description as the what the weight is on NOS vs repro is and I know based on that info he is selling repro as NOS.

Just need to be careful

I was actually the high bidder on these for a friend but am off them now



I have been looking for these spears for six months. I have been taking my time because I did not really need them right away. I will tell you in my travels many people have mentioned and noticed , including myself, how many sets this seller has posted of these rocker moldings on ebay with this same story . I would say maybe a year and there always seems to be sets for sale every month. I do not know for sure if they are legit or not but I decided not to buy from them .

There is also a seller who always has NOS chrome shifter knobs on ebay with an incorrect description as the what the weight is on NOS vs repro is and I know based on that info he is selling repro as NOS.

Just need to be careful

I bought from shifter knob guy when he first listed a few years ago - nice part, but definately not a GM part.

Typically if there is more than a few, the parts are not NOS, especially without packaging.

These might be the best repro's out there, but not from GM, imo.

If you have to have NOS, and you are dealing on Ebay - make sure there is original packaging, a part number, and that the packaging comes with.

I have seen some aparent high profile Camaro dealers/ experts moving repro goods as NOS, and typically they get very excited when you call them on it

So the guy selling real NOS ones that Chevy Thunder listed, in his question and answer section states that real ones are worth 500.00-800.00. If the repo that looks just like real except no packaging is 200.00 is it really worth it to spend 500.00-800.00 for packaging ? If the guy just came out and said these are perfect repos instead of claiming GM, would you be happy paying the 200.00 that it appears they sell for ? I would use the perfect repo and thank him for finally making a repo part that wasn't junk.
I have no idea how nice they are but from the pics they seem better than the other repo junk.

I put repros on my car, and they look fine to me.

The spears sit down so far on the car that it's difficult to tell - once they are installed.

I guess it depends if you're having your car judged or not, and of course if you prefer NOS to the typical repro grade.

If I were spending top dollar I would want original GM packaging. Without the packaging it's truly hard to tell what you are getting. It's a real shame that the hobby has grown to the point where profiteers would want to take advantage of people's good nature.

I bought a set off ebay for 265 including shipping in a protective tube . They were in the GM packaging and were legit NOS. For a price difference of 200 vs a possible 350 I wanted NOS and ended up getting lucky finding a very reasonably priced set .

I have no problem using good repro parts depending on what car I am putting them on but for my COPO restoration the few parts I had to find I wanted NOS .

I will tell you this... I wish someone made good weather stripping because I would have definitely considered using it instead of NOS !

Just to be clear... I have not seen any NOS spears sell for over $350 on ebay . 275-350 + shipping seems to be the norm .

Thanks for all the replys. I'm do not have a problem with or would glady pay $200 for a nice set of reproduction moldings. my point is someone being dishonest and claiming to have original GM MOLDINGS, just so the part will sell better and for more money. If you have a good part BE HONEST and the part will sell it's self. I just don't like fake parts! or being scamed or lied to. Someone selling fake parts is no different IMO than someone trying to sell a fake car as a real one. To some people $200.00 is nothing but to others it is a lot of $. To find NOS PARTS for a 69 camaro of any kind is rare after 41 years and for some to have a ENDLESS SUPPLY of one particular part without the original packaging should be a red flag to anyone. I do not understand From the reply's i've seen so far here on team camaro. It seems is okay for some one to sell fake parts as real ones but if some one was to list a fake or repo trim tag on ebay you would a hundred differenet people flaging it to cancel the listing the first day. ??????????

69ssrs, Im more surprised that the word "thankful" was used....

It pisses me off when I see repop sold as NOS, but it's becoming so common that it's hard for me to get too excited about it.

Ya gotta trust your own judgement when looking at items for sale, and it like anything else - you usually learn by getting screwed once or twice - or watching it happen to someone else.

To me by definition, NOS means that the part should come in an original package, or however GM / MOPAR / FOMOCO stocked and sold it.

It is fraud to misrepresent items such as this, but I don't think its a federal offence, as tampering with TT, serial numbers, etc. is.

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I love seeing auctions like this. The person has NOS parts, and they are most likely expecting top dollar for them. However, the pictures show one of the moldings sitting face-down directly on concrete. Anodizing is pretty hard stuff, but that's not how you treat nice NOS parts.

Funny, I remember buying these moldings 6 or 8 years ago at the local dealership for $40 each and stock showed over 300 still available at that time. I guess I should have bought a few spares.

Chevy thunder I see where yo you say the price of $275-$350 is the norm. You are 100% correct. If you have a vender selling 22 sets from Dec 2009 to Dec 2010 of these rare repo GM'S for this price range. They just decrease the value of the real NOS Moldings.
Pretty much supply and demand. Around 2008 the going rate was $500-$800. until these guys started selling 2 set a month on ebay at cheap price. I guess everyone is missing the point. REPO PARTS ARE BEING SOLD AS NOS GM. I guess we all should feel bad for the guy who paid $610.00 on Mar 10/2010 for moldings from these guys!

[QUOTE=ChevyThunder;1518439] I have no problem using good repro parts depending on what car I am putting them on but for my COPO restoration the few parts I had to find I wanted NOS


Van, totally agree with you. Some repro stuff is the right fit for most cars. Your COPO would need to stay NOS as much as possible. :beers:

I am not condoning the representation of repo parts as NOS. And I have not needed to buy any lately so I don't know what they sell for. I have no idea if what this vendor is selling is really made by the same co that made the GM ones. The GM ones were available for a long time so I do see a possibility that there still could be the outside supplier with stock left. If I'm the seller and found that supplier I would keep him secret also. 22 sets is not too many to think were laying in stock at a supplier. Do I think they are repo ? Probably.

How hard would it be to pay top dollar for NOS for your own project,then buy repops and stick them in the GM packaging and get somebody else to pay as much or more? It sounds like a lot of work,but once you get your NOS parts in the original box,the hard part is done. Think about how many NOS body panels have real GM stickers that look like they are all wavy and it is assumed that after sitting on a shelf in a damp back room that it is just what happens. Anybody who has ever "borrowed" an inspection sticker out of the junkyard knows what you can do with a bottle of windex,or a good heat lamp.

And it isn't all that difficult to duplicate the boxes and packaging that the NOS parts come in either.

I think here at TC a couple years ago or so a guy in NC was cold busted on Ebay with fake GM boxes. Can't remember what parts he was selling.

I guess if you don't know what you're looking at, just about anybody could rip you off.

If there's $ to be made - someone will try - and probably get away with it.

I've even seen '67 rs headlight relays in legit GM boxes, and when you open them up there's a smaller box inside that says "made in china."

I bought parts from these guys at Carlisle (repop stuff) and they are nice guys. These parts maybe the parts are from the company that made them for GM. If GM stopped ordering them and they had remaining stock they would be legit parts but not NOS just "from the original mfg".

Scott

I have a set that I bought in 1974; they are still in the GM packaging. I didn't realize they would be worth that much. Maybe I'll take them to a Super Chevy show and sell them as I don't like to deal with shipping.

It has been one month now since they listed or sold the last set. so here you go!

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They have three sets listed on their web site.
1-cheap $29.95
2-new high grade redesigned version OE style! more crisp ends, like original.

3- Original GM MOLDINGS limited stock. (call for price)

What do you want to bet if you had two people place a order for a pair of original GM moldings and your buddie order their best reproduction moldings . I have a feeling you both will receive the same moldings except different prices.