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67hoch
Nov 25th, 01, 11:44 AM
Anybody out there in Chevy land who could tell me why the 2,4,6,8, cylinders on my 350 are wet? Can't get it started and seems like the firing isn't right.The order is right but possibly not getting proper fire. Any suggestion's would be great!

SSuperman
Nov 25th, 01, 05:51 PM
Oil, gas, antifreez???????????

67hoch
Nov 26th, 01, 08:05 AM
I believe it's oil <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SSuperman:
Oil, gas, antifreez???????????<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Joekool1234567
Nov 26th, 01, 10:18 AM
IF its oil on the plugs I would run a compression test. Is this a new motor or one with many miles on it? Some specs on your motor and ignition and other stuff would help also.

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70 camaro 307 (350soon) /350th

67hoch
Nov 26th, 01, 11:05 AM
Its an older casting #3970010, 441 cyl.heads I put the heads on, edelbrock performer rpm intake edel.600 carb HEI distribitor with Accel supercoil on top. It probally does have high miles on it. What would bad compression read? And what is normal vaccum on a 350? Thanks

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67hoch
Nov 26th, 01, 11:17 AM
Why would only the 2,4,6,8,side be infected with this wetness? Could it be the fuel mix isn't right?But still I can not get it started!!! I'm stumped!!!!!!!!!

67hoch
Nov 26th, 01, 11:22 AM
By the way,the 441 heads are redone had them machined and 202 160 stainless valves put in,I am thinking my block is worn!

Tracy Focht
Nov 26th, 01, 01:26 PM
It's weird to be only on one side.....how long ago was the heads done? Dod you get new guides done also?

What is the compression on each cylinders? Do they vary on each side?

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383 Speed-O-Motive stroker kit with Holley 750DP, RPM intake,MSD6a box,World Products Sportsman II heads, ported and polished with 2.02/1.60 valves,64cc,TRW forged pistons with 10.7:1 compression, Comp Xtreme 284 cam,Crane pushrods, Comp Cam 1.6 full roller rockers,ATI damper, 40 series Flowmasters, 4.11 gears with TH350 and Hughes 3000 stall.

Joekool1234567
Nov 26th, 01, 05:22 PM
If you compression test you should get readings above 120 psi and all cylinders should be within 10-15% of each other. Normal vacuum on a stock 350 while cranking should be 8-12 inchs I beleave and 16-22 inchs while running. Vacuum will read at lower numbers on a motor with high miles or with performance camshaft.

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70 camaro 307 (350soon) /350th

bruce ulrich
Nov 28th, 01, 05:51 PM
you say the heads are redone dont want to this is not to dis you in any way you didnt accidentily reuse the old head gasket or maybe put a steel on on upside down or silicone to seal it or not retorgue heads after it warmed up it seems fishy to me that one whole side is bad something other then mileage seems to be common here did the heads get angle milled an the intake side angle not correct now when you do comp test take one plug out at a time have a friend crank it over put your hand down to plug hole see if you can fill compression from other cylinder seeing as it will have compression still with its plug in this could tell you if you have leak between these cyl.

67hoch
Nov 30th, 01, 12:36 PM
I put on new fel-pro head gaskets and double checked that they were on right,no silicone was used and I did re torque the heads after warm up? <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bruce ulrich:
you say the heads are redone dont want to this is not to dis you in any way you didnt accidentily reuse the old head gasket or maybe put a steel on on upside down or silicone to seal it or not retorgue heads after it warmed up it seems fishy to me that one whole side is bad something other then mileage seems to be common here did the heads get angle milled an the intake side angle not correct now when you do comp test take one plug out at a time have a friend crank it over put your hand down to plug hole see if you can fill compression from other cylinder seeing as it will have compression still with its plug in this could tell you if you have leak between these cyl. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

bilydean
Nov 30th, 01, 03:44 PM
67hoch, is it possible that the machine shop left off the valve stem seals on one head?? Even though the heads are redone, there may still be a lot of clearance between the valve and guide and your engine is pulling oil past the guides. Just a thought.

67hoch
Nov 30th, 01, 07:36 PM
I put the heads together myself,they were bare upon return from machine shop. Thank's for your thaught I appreciate it.Still searching for answers!!!!

joe clance
Dec 2nd, 01, 04:39 PM
Bad or missing intake gasket???
Overtorqued on 1357 side or improper sequential tightening??

67hoch
Dec 3rd, 01, 08:28 AM
Never thought of that,I will check and let you know what comes out of it! Thanks for the advice!

joe clance
Dec 3rd, 01, 10:25 AM
Pull the carb and wipe the bottom of the intake planum and runners with a white paper towel to see if you detect and brown stuff (oil) on the 2468 side of the intake. Also, get an orentation of the plugs (what side of the plug is facing up. Remove the plugs and see if the oil is heavy on the upward side of the plug. If so you have definite problems from the intake ie Oil leaks from carb (PVC), intake manifold,or valve guides. Also. If oil appears on the threads of the plugs themselves (without external leaks, also suspect problems from above. For bad rings to saturate plugs with oil, compresion would have to be substantially lower than the other cylinders!

67hoch
Dec 3rd, 01, 12:01 PM
Hey Joe, Finally someone with some answers! I am gonna do what you suggested,and see what happens. I will let you know.Thank's for the advice I really appreciate it. 67hoch

rolling-robert
Jan 18th, 04, 04:50 AM
i have the exact same problem!om the 2,4,6,8 side it is soaked with gas, and it wont fire up.

what can it be?

GMJim
Jan 18th, 04, 08:41 AM
67hoch
If you are running a stock intake It's unlikely it's a PCV problem. Cylinders 4,6,1 and 7 are fed by one side of the intake and 2,8,3,and 5 are fed by the other. The pcv is in the base of the throttle body so more than one bank would be affected by oil if that was where it was coming from. The other people that asked questions like did you do a compression test and what are the readings? are trying to determine where your problem is likely coming from. Without some test results to lead me/us in a non guessing direction, I would make my best guess at what joe clance suggested as a intake gasket leak from the lifter gallery on the right bank. (Bad, leaking or missing gasket).
Hope this helps
Jim