: 1969 camaro
Sep 23rd, 00, 06:42 AM
I have a 1969 camaro convertible that i would learn a little about.The car has no intrerior and a primer paint,i bought the car a few years ago as restoration projekt.This is the information i have.
TR720 50A PNT
Well,I dont understand a thing about the numbers,I hope some one can help me.Thanks.
Sep 23rd, 00, 07:24 AM
It's an Indy 500 Pace Car replica, so noted by the Z11 trim code. All were Dover white SS-RS with orange striping and with orange interior.
Sep 23rd, 00, 08:04 AM
Thanks.But orange intreior??The Dashboard is black.The car has a v8 engine and a 4speed manual transmission I think.It hasnīt been running for twenty years or so.By the way ,forgive me for asking..pace car??I have heard about ss and z28.Iīm hungry for more information.Wow!it seems like Iīm having an unusual car
Sep 23rd, 00, 09:49 AM
Pace cars are also not specifically covered here in detail; they will be separately discussed in more detail in a separate web site page to be forthcoming. The 1969 Z11 Pace car was a special package that consisted of a SS convertible with ZL2 cowl hoods, D80 spoilers, Z28-style rally stripes, 50A exterior color, and 720 interior. A Z10 "Pace coupe" regional promotion additionally allowed a vinyl top (or not), and one of the black interior colors could be selected in place of the orange houndstooth, but the Z10 included the other Z11 features.
look under The Camaros - pace car sidebar and there's more info.
At a minimum, all '69 Pace Car Replicas should have the following:
Body Style 12467 or 12437
Z11 or Z10 Code (Norwood Cars)
Dover White Paint Code (50)
White Convertible Top Code (A)
Interior Trim Orange houndstooth (720)
A build date between 02D and 05A
Style Trim Group
Handpainted Hugger Orange RS stripes over the wheel openings
Hugger Orange stripes (Z/28 Style)
Special Ducted Hood
Rocker panels painted white instead of black
The rear panel remained white on 396 cars instead of black
go to the links and this site http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/3652/69pics.html
to see pics and find out more info. the orange interior was a houndtooth black/orange
with a black dash http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/3652/1969/69int14.jpg
here's your codes:
1 - General Motors Division- 1=Chevrolet Motor Division
2 - Car Series- 2=Camaro
4- Engine- 4=8-cylinder
67 - Body Style- 67=convertible
9 - Model Year- 9=1969
N - Assembly Plant- N=Norwood, Ohio
635009- Unit Number- This number started at 500,001 at both plants in 1969, so this was the 135,009th Camaro built at norwood for 69 model year.
TR720 50A PNT
69 - 1969 year
12467 - convertible
NOR - Norwood (Cincinatti) Ohio
313177 - Unit number and assembly plant code, used to keep track of the car in the plant, no specific meaning and does not match the vin
720 - Orange Houndstooth Interior Trim Code
50 A - 50 - Dover White Body Color Code, A - White convertible top
04 - April Build Date, C - 3rd week of the month (april 1969)
Z11 - Indy Pace Car Accents
To see a pic of my car, click here... pages.prodigy.net/mtbmtb/rf396ss.jpg (http://pages.prodigy.net/mtbmtb/rf396ss.jpg)
[This message has been edited by mike brown (edited 09-23-2000).]
Sep 25th, 00, 03:02 AM
If you post the #'s off of the engine, trans, and rearend, we can confirm if they are original. See 'Decoding' on the www.camaros.org (http://www.camaros.org) site for the location of these #'s.
Let us know what you find. http://www.camaros.net/forum/smile.gif
Sep 25th, 00, 03:35 AM
Don't fret over the orange interior it actually looks good with the white and orange paint. Just an fyi, you can expect the value of your car to be $5,000 - $10,000 more than most other like condition convertibles.
Camaros Limited Nor-Cal (http://camaroslimited.com)
Sep 25th, 00, 07:23 PM
OK! Were do I find those numbers?
Sep 25th, 00, 10:00 PM
To Kurt S.
I was in a hurry when I looked at your answear,so forgett my qestion about the location of the numbers.The numbers thatI found on the engine is#3955272 and TO118.One problem is that i canīt get under the car because itīs standing in my garage with a lot of things around it http://www.camaros.net/forum/smile.gifBy the way the shifter is manufactured by HURST.
Sep 26th, 00, 07:22 AM
3955272=69 396 2or4bolt main from the www.mortec.com (http://www.mortec.com) website.
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Sep 26th, 00, 11:09 AM
You can edit your own post btw.
The T0118 was stamped on the front engine pad? If so, there should be 2 letters after it.
Sep 26th, 00, 11:28 AM
I think there is a J after TO118 and maybe a B or E,the area is really hard to read.
Sep 27th, 00, 04:14 AM
JB would work. 396/325hp 4speed. But that date (Jan 18) is a bit early for your car. You should look for a partial VIN by the oil filter.
Also, use scotchbrite pads and clean up the engine pad and the #'s should be clearer.
Let us know what you find for trans and rearend codes.
Sep 27th, 00, 07:23 AM
Now am I sure about the JB code,does that mean that the engine is correct but not matching # according the built day?I will try to get under the car to locate the other numbers.
Oct 28th, 00, 03:43 AM
Rear axle codes: BM 0323 G
Transm. P9C16A 9N635009. I couldnt find the VIN # on the engine.
Oct 29th, 00, 02:04 PM
The axle stamp says it's a 3.31 non-posi, built on March 23rd at the Chevy Gear & Axle plant. The trans stamp says it was built at Muncie on March 16, 1969, as an M-20 wide-ratio trans. The other stamp on the trans is the VIN derivative from your car, so the trans is the original one it was built with.
'69 Z28 Fathom Green
Oct 30th, 00, 09:27 PM
Another question:were custom seat belts a mandantory option to the 1969 pace car?
Oct 31st, 00, 09:22 AM
No, deluxe belts were not part of the Z11 option. Deluxe belts were not even part of the deluxe interior. They had to be ordered seperately.
All the Z11 got your was a white convertible RS/SS with a white top, an orange houndstooth interior, Zl2 hood, D80 spoilers, orange pn stripes over the wheelwells, and orange Z28 stripes. In the case of a car with a big block it also kept the rear tail panel and rocker area body colored, not black. Anything else on the car had to be ordered as an option.
1969 Indy Pace Car
350/300HP RPO Z11
Oct 31st, 00, 10:37 AM
Thanks for the information,but in the book Camaro Chevys classy chassis by Ray Miller the pace was to be orderd with the following options.
Color Dover white
Orange houndstooth trim
Custom De Luxe seatbelts
Special Ducted hood
Maybe a printing error in the book??Any coments.
Oct 31st, 00, 03:52 PM
Could be because the actual GM Product bulletin dated Feb 4, 1969 says Z11 consists of:
Camaro SS/Rally Sport
Add Hood and Deck Lid Orange Stripes, same as used with RPO Z28
Body sill to be painted white instead of black
Rear panel to be white instead of black, as specified with 396 V-8 engine options
Remove sport striping (Reference D90)
Add hugger orange fender striping (reference D96, part of Z22)
Exterior body color, Dover White, code 911
Custom Interior, RPO Z87
Orange Houndstooth cloth trim, Code 720
Air Induction Hood, RPO ZL2
Rally Wheel, hub cap and trim ring, RPO ZJ7
to be identical with the actual pace car, additional options are required:
Turbo hydramatic M40
Positraction Rear Axle, G80
Power Steering N40
Power Convertible Top C06
Special Instrumentation, U17
AM radio, U63
Air Spoilers, front and rear, D80
Sport Styled Wheel, N34
Custom deluxe seat and front shoulder belt, A39 and A85
Soft Ray Tinted Glass
1969 Indy Pace Car
350/300HP RPO Z11
Oct 31st, 00, 06:51 PM
I have to say I've never seen or heard of a 69 Pace car with standard belts, despite that bulletin. http://www.camaros.net/forum/smile.gif
Nov 1st, 00, 05:10 AM
Kurt.Have you ever seen a pace car without spoilers?? http://www.camaros.net/forum/smile.gif